Do the existence of SAHM impede professional women?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I won’t work for men who have SAHMs. I’m an associate in biglaw with some control over who I will work for, and I just won’t do it.

I think this attitude is becoming more common. I've heard it expressed from others (and not just women but also men with partners who don't SAH).

I am a WOHM and I think it's a ridiculous approach. Personally I would have missed out on the best manager of my career if I'd adopted it. I don't like having assumptions made about me; why should I make them about others?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I won’t work for men who have SAHMs. I’m an associate in biglaw with some control over who I will work for, and I just won’t do it.

Haha wow. You sound like a total weirdo with some major issues

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I won’t work for men who have SAHMs. I’m an associate in biglaw with some control over who I will work for, and I just won’t do it.

I think this attitude is becoming more common. I've heard it expressed from others (and not just women but also men with partners who don't SAH).

I am a WOHM and I think it's a ridiculous approach. Personally I would have missed out on the best manager of my career if I'd adopted it. I don't like having assumptions made about me; why should I make them about others?

Glad you found managers you had wonderful experiences with. So have I: men with working wives, moms, and childless women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In other words, if a man has a SAHM for a wife, does he necessarily have an advantage over his female colleagues?

No the existence of SAHM does not impeded professional women.

An attitude that professional women cannot do a fantastic job because they don't have a milk maid at home catering to them, does.

Do you not know any ball-buster Mom professional women?? Great moms, great bosses, great at their careers. They can multi-task and run circles around any myopic ADHD professional men.

Sadly, I do no actually know any,

Of course I know some. But what would be nice is if the standard woman could benefit from more help at home, and not have to literally be superwoman to do it. Because lord knows how many average men succeed without literally being superman.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In other words, if a man has a SAHM for a wife, does he necessarily have an advantage over his female colleagues?

No the existence of SAHM does not impeded professional women.

An attitude that professional women cannot do a fantastic job because they don't have a milk maid at home catering to them, does.

Do you not know any ball-buster Mom professional women?? Great moms, great bosses, great at their careers. They can multi-task and run circles around any myopic ADHD professional men.

Sadly, I do no actually know any,

Of course I know some. But what would be nice is if the standard woman could benefit from more help at home, and not have to literally be superwoman to do it. Because lord knows how many average men succeed without literally being superman.

...you may want to check out a dictionary

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I won’t work for men who have SAHMs. I’m an associate in biglaw with some control over who I will work for, and I just won’t do it.

Haha wow. You sound like a total weirdo with some major issues

Exactly. At my big law firm, nearly all the women equity partners had sah or barely working spouses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In other words, if a man has a SAHM for a wife, does he necessarily have an advantage over his female colleagues?

No the existence of SAHM does not impeded professional women.

An attitude that professional women cannot do a fantastic job because they don't have a milk maid at home catering to them, does.

Do you not know any ball-buster Mom professional women?? Great moms, great bosses, great at their careers. They can multi-task and run circles around any myopic ADHD professional men.

Sadly, I do no actually know any,

Of course I know some. But what would be nice is if the standard woman could benefit from more help at home, and not have to literally be superwoman to do it. Because lord knows how many average men succeed without literally being superman.

...you may want to check out a dictionary

you're a pedantic choad. how is that for vocabulary?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I won’t work for men who have SAHMs. I’m an associate in biglaw with some control over who I will work for, and I just won’t do it.

I think this attitude is becoming more common. I've heard it expressed from others (and not just women but also men with partners who don't SAH).

I am a WOHM and I think it's a ridiculous approach. Personally I would have missed out on the best manager of my career if I'd adopted it. I don't like having assumptions made about me; why should I make them about others?

Glad you found managers you had wonderful experiences with. So have I: men with working wives, moms, and childless women.

I've also had those, and they have also been good or at least not a problem. My worst manager was a man whose wife worked, but only a small number of hours per week. I don't think him being a bad manager had anything to do with his wife. He was just a bad manager and would have been one regardless of his wife's status. I just think it's silly to say you won't work for a man with a SAHM wife. People are individuals.

[Anonymous]

Isn't that basically what Sheryl Sandberg suggested? Have a lot of money and a spouse willing to put his career on the backburner. Then, voila! Success!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I won’t work for men who have SAHMs. I’m an associate in biglaw with some control over who I will work for, and I just won’t do it.

Haha wow. You sound like a total weirdo with some major issues

Exactly. At my big law firm, nearly all the women equity partners had sah or barely working spouses.

Yikes really? Not true for me. One of the old DC big 4.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I won’t work for men who have SAHMs. I’m an associate in biglaw with some control over who I will work for, and I just won’t do it.

I think this attitude is becoming more common. I've heard it expressed from others (and not just women but also men with partners who don't SAH).

I am a WOHM and I think it's a ridiculous approach. Personally I would have missed out on the best manager of my career if I'd adopted it. I don't like having assumptions made about me; why should I make them about others?

Glad you found managers you had wonderful experiences with. So have I: men with working wives, moms, and childless women.

Childless women and women who never put their children ahead of work are typically the absolute worse managers for parents looking for any degree of work life flexibility. Issues of envy and regret.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I won’t work for men who have SAHMs. I’m an associate in biglaw with some control over who I will work for, and I just won’t do it.

I think this attitude is becoming more common. I've heard it expressed from others (and not just women but also men with partners who don't SAH).

I am a WOHM and I think it's a ridiculous approach. Personally I would have missed out on the best manager of my career if I'd adopted it. I don't like having assumptions made about me; why should I make them about others?

Glad you found managers you had wonderful experiences with. So have I: men with working wives, moms, and childless women.

I've also had those, and they have also been good or at least not a problem. My worst manager was a man whose wife worked, but only a small number of hours per week. I don't think him being a bad manager had anything to do with his wife. He was just a bad manager and would have been one regardless of his wife's status. I just think it's silly to say you won't work for a man with a SAHM wife. People are individuals.

I don't know. I feel this way about my kids have teachers who don't have children, too. People who don't live the experience of sharing responsibility for a busy household outside of working hours just flat underestimate how difficult it can be, and make demands/assumptions that are ridiculous. I'm sure there are plenty of exceptions, but most of us experienced this about having kids, so why wouldn't it be the same with other major life experiences?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I won’t work for men who have SAHMs. I’m an associate in biglaw with some control over who I will work for, and I just won’t do it.

How very close-minded and discriminatory of you.

Sounds like a troll or a very stupid lawyer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I won’t work for men who have SAHMs. I’m an associate in biglaw with some control over who I will work for, and I just won’t do it.

I think this attitude is becoming more common. I've heard it expressed from others (and not just women but also men with partners who don't SAH).

I am a WOHM and I think it's a ridiculous approach. Personally I would have missed out on the best manager of my career if I'd adopted it. I don't like having assumptions made about me; why should I make them about others?

Glad you found managers you had wonderful experiences with. So have I: men with working wives, moms, and childless women.

I've also had those, and they have also been good or at least not a problem. My worst manager was a man whose wife worked, but only a small number of hours per week. I don't think him being a bad manager had anything to do with his wife. He was just a bad manager and would have been one regardless of his wife's status. I just think it's silly to say you won't work for a man with a SAHM wife. People are individuals.

I don't know. I feel this way about my kids have teachers who don't have children, too. People who don't live the experience of sharing responsibility for a busy household outside of working hours just flat underestimate how difficult it can be, and make demands/assumptions that are ridiculous. I'm sure there are plenty of exceptions, but most of us experienced this about having kids, so why wouldn't it be the same with other major life experiences?

By this logic, you should avoid childless managers. But the notion of avoiding working for anyone based on their family structure is beyond stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I won’t work for men who have SAHMs. I’m an associate in biglaw with some control over who I will work for, and I just won’t do it.

Haha wow. You sound like a total weirdo with some major issues

Exactly. At my big law firm, nearly all the women equity partners had sah or barely working spouses.

Yikes really? Not true for me. One of the old DC big 4.

Good point, the majority have no kids whatsoever.