Why is DC soft on crime?

[Anonymous]

How many of you offering your expert opinion on the Metropolitan Police Department have been DC residents for over 20 years?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ You were wrong about everything, except the fact that I don't live in DC.

Now please tell us how black people are so afraid of DC cops. Do you have any experiences that you would like to share, or have you seen some cool vids on the net that you don't like?

So on the most relevant metric here you fail - you don't live in DC.

I'm pretty confident you also are not black and based on the stupidity of some of your comments I doubt you spend much time in DC - but please tell us what makes you, as an outsider, such an expert?

So you make the rules about relevant metrics? Since you are the spokesman for black people on DCUM, why are you afraid of the cops? Let me guess, those bad boy cops are "over policing" your neighborhood?
Why are you afraid? Were you a victim of police brutality? Maybe DC cops need to soften up.

I don't make the rules but I'm also confident you have no idea what you are talking about as you have no first hand experience with living in DC and likely have had little to no experience dealing with MPD. I've lived in DC 26 years and have lots of experience dealing with MPD and tit is not a particularly well run department but the issues with how they are run have very little to do with the issues you are complaining about on this thread most of which are based on stereotypes and what strikes me as politically motivated ignorance and bias.

If you knew me personally you'd know I am one of the last people to defend MPD but they should be defended when they are being attacked by insecure fools with no skin in the game.

BTW I never claimed to be a spokesman for black people (and you are arguing with multiple people in this thread) but I will stand up and speak when I sense people/systems/cities are being attacked by ignoramuses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ You were wrong about everything, except the fact that I don't live in DC.

Now please tell us how black people are so afraid of DC cops. Do you have any experiences that you would like to share, or have you seen some cool vids on the net that you don't like?

So on the most relevant metric here you fail - you don't live in DC.

I'm pretty confident you also are not black and based on the stupidity of some of your comments I doubt you spend much time in DC - but please tell us what makes you, as an outsider, such an expert?

So you make the rules about relevant metrics? Since you are the spokesman for black people on DCUM, why are you afraid of the cops? Let me guess, those bad boy cops are "over policing" your neighborhood?
Why are you afraid? Were you a victim of police brutality? Maybe DC cops need to soften up.

I don't make the rules but I'm also confident you have no idea what you are talking about as you have no first hand experience with living in DC and likely have had little to no experience dealing with MPD. I've lived in DC 26 years and have lots of experience dealing with MPD and tit is not a particularly well run department but the issues with how they are run have very little to do with the issues you are complaining about on this thread most of which are based on stereotypes and what strikes me as politically motivated ignorance and bias.

If you knew me personally you'd know I am one of the last people to defend MPD but they should be defended when they are being attacked by insecure fools with no skin in the game.

BTW I never claimed to be a spokesman for black people (and you are arguing with multiple people in this thread) but I will stand up and speak when I sense people/systems/cities are being attacked by ignoramuses.

Based upon your response, It's obvious that you are the one talking to multiple people LOLZ. In fact, I'm not even sure what you are talking about in parts of your post. And thanks for defending me, I mean MPD

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ You were wrong about everything, except the fact that I don't live in DC.

Now please tell us how black people are so afraid of DC cops. Do you have any experiences that you would like to share, or have you seen some cool vids on the net that you don't like?

So on the most relevant metric here you fail - you don't live in DC.

I'm pretty confident you also are not black and based on the stupidity of some of your comments I doubt you spend much time in DC - but please tell us what makes you, as an outsider, such an expert?

So you make the rules about relevant metrics? Since you are the spokesman for black people on DCUM, why are you afraid of the cops? Let me guess, those bad boy cops are "over policing" your neighborhood?
Why are you afraid? Were you a victim of police brutality? Maybe DC cops need to soften up.

I don't make the rules but I'm also confident you have no idea what you are talking about as you have no first hand experience with living in DC and likely have had little to no experience dealing with MPD. I've lived in DC 26 years and have lots of experience dealing with MPD and tit is not a particularly well run department but the issues with how they are run have very little to do with the issues you are complaining about on this thread most of which are based on stereotypes and what strikes me as politically motivated ignorance and bias.

If you knew me personally you'd know I am one of the last people to defend MPD but they should be defended when they are being attacked by insecure fools with no skin in the game.

BTW I never claimed to be a spokesman for black people (and you are arguing with multiple people in this thread) but I will stand up and speak when I sense people/systems/cities are being attacked by ignoramuses.

Duly noted, you are the defender of cities. Lol.

[Anonymous]

wow this thread got some more traction

I am the author of the big post from 1/04

Everything is connected. I am waiting to see if there is any real fallout from the education attendance scandal. Doubtful

[Anonymous]

Where is the city with solving/ prosecuting the heartbreaking mansion murders? Or the 14 year old just murdered? Heartbreaking, all.

[Anonymous]

No doubt the folks animatedly objecting to the idea that black Washingtonians have any type of anxiety or uneasiness about the Metropolitan Police Department A) aren't black and B) aren't native Washingtonians.
If they were black and if they did grow up in DC or have lived in the District for 20+ years they would know all too well that the Metropolitan Police Department doesn't have a reputation of being "soft". In fact they are infamous for being the exact opposite.

Peep this...
The District of Columbia's Metropolitan Police Department shot and killed more people per resident in the 1990s than any other large American city police force.
From 1975 to 1983, New York averaged 1.36 fatal shootings annually by police per 1,000 officers and Washington's rate was nearly identical at 1.44, according to a study by the International Association of Chiefs of Police. By 1995, New York's rate had dropped below 1 and Washington's had risen to nearly 4.
At the height of the crack-cocaine era in the 90's when DC was known as "Dodge City" the implication of gun violence that the moniker suggested didn't just apply to firearm toting drug dealers...it applied very much to the trigger-happy Metropolitan Police Department as well.

You ask any black Washingtonian over the age of 30 if they are wary of the police and I'd be willing to wager that 90% of the time their answer will be a resounding "Hell yes".
I know the boldness of the brazen criminals you see on the local evening news has some of you believing blacks don't fear the police but bear in mind - not all blacks are criminals. It's baffling I know but trust me, most blacks are honest hard-working law-abiding citizens going about their daily lives trying to avoid drama and conflict at all costs and subsequently they are very apprehensive of the Metropolitan Police Department because of the history I made mention of above and because even today most of the time any type of interaction with the Metropolitan Police Department ultimately leads to some type of drama or conflict.

Ahhight I'm done y'all can go back to arguing about bullshit. Good talk.

[Anonymous]

Why is no one interested in the actual drop in crime?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No doubt the folks animatedly objecting to the idea that black Washingtonians have any type of anxiety or uneasiness about the Metropolitan Police Department A) aren't black and B) aren't native Washingtonians.
If they were black and if they did grow up in DC or have lived in the District for 20+ years they would know all too well that the Metropolitan Police Department doesn't have a reputation of being "soft". In fact they are infamous for being the exact opposite.

Peep this...
The District of Columbia's Metropolitan Police Department shot and killed more people per resident in the 1990s than any other large American city police force.
From 1975 to 1983, New York averaged 1.36 fatal shootings annually by police per 1,000 officers and Washington's rate was nearly identical at 1.44, according to a study by the International Association of Chiefs of Police. By 1995, New York's rate had dropped below 1 and Washington's had risen to nearly 4.
At the height of the crack-cocaine era in the 90's when DC was known as "Dodge City" the implication of gun violence that the moniker suggested didn't just apply to firearm toting drug dealers...it applied very much to the trigger-happy Metropolitan Police Department as well.

You ask any black Washingtonian over the age of 30 if they are wary of the police and I'd be willing to wager that 90% of the time their answer will be a resounding "Hell yes".
I know the boldness of the brazen criminals you see on the local evening news has some of you believing blacks don't fear the police but bear in mind - not all blacks are criminals. It's baffling I know but trust me, most blacks are honest hard-working law-abiding citizens going about their daily lives trying to avoid drama and conflict at all costs and subsequently they are very apprehensive of the Metropolitan Police Department because of the history I made mention of above and because even today most of the time any type of interaction with the Metropolitan Police Department ultimately leads to some type of drama or conflict.

Ahhight I'm done y'all can go back to arguing about bullshit. Good talk.

In the 90s we were the murder capital of the country. I'm trying to remember... We had some nickname to that effect. I'm not sure the police activity at that time - thirty years ago? - has led to a lasting fear of DC police, especially on current teenagers who have no recollection. I've found DC police to be generally well mannered cheerful. There is a good representation of AA as well, which many have called for in black community policing relations. How they are deployed, how competent they are, and how backed up they are by laws and prosecutors is what I think is under discussion in a thread called why is DC soft of crime. If fear of police officers plays into DC being soft on crime I'm curious how. I know fear of fellow citizens and being labeled a "snitch" is notorious for leading to unsolved cases in DC and something police routinely lament.

[Anonymous]

Well waddaya know...

Study finds D.C. police using more force
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/report-finds-dc-police-using-more-force/2018/01/23/a858451e-0066-11e8-8acf-ad2991367d9d_story.html?utm_term=.9eea70f3caa4



And not to be overlooked...
D.C. officer who fatally shot unarmed motorcyclist was not in danger when he pulled his gun, internal review finds
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/dc-officer-who-fatally-shot-unarmed-motorcyclist-was-not-in-danger-when-he-pulled-his-gun-internal-review-finds/2017/12/28/e038ff7a-e589-11e7-833f-155031558ff4_story.html?utm_term=.3e5b529c9953

Soft huh?
No reason to fear em huh?
Yeah...okay

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well waddaya know...

Study finds D.C. police using more force
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/report-finds-dc-police-using-more-force/2018/01/23/a858451e-0066-11e8-8acf-ad2991367d9d_story.html?utm_term=.9eea70f3caa4



And not to be overlooked...
D.C. officer who fatally shot unarmed motorcyclist was not in danger when he pulled his gun, internal review finds
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/dc-officer-who-fatally-shot-unarmed-motorcyclist-was-not-in-danger-when-he-pulled-his-gun-internal-review-finds/2017/12/28/e038ff7a-e589-11e7-833f-155031558ff4_story.html?utm_term=.3e5b529c9953

Soft huh?
No reason to fear em huh?
Yeah...okay

Is that 2013 through 2017? Didnt we just have a crime spike in the last couple of years?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No doubt the folks animatedly objecting to the idea that black Washingtonians have any type of anxiety or uneasiness about the Metropolitan Police Department A) aren't black and B) aren't native Washingtonians.
If they were black and if they did grow up in DC or have lived in the District for 20+ years they would know all too well that the Metropolitan Police Department doesn't have a reputation of being "soft". In fact they are infamous for being the exact opposite.

Peep this...
The District of Columbia's Metropolitan Police Department shot and killed more people per resident in the 1990s than any other large American city police force.
From 1975 to 1983, New York averaged 1.36 fatal shootings annually by police per 1,000 officers and Washington's rate was nearly identical at 1.44, according to a study by the International Association of Chiefs of Police. By 1995, New York's rate had dropped below 1 and Washington's had risen to nearly 4.
At the height of the crack-cocaine era in the 90's when DC was known as "Dodge City" the implication of gun violence that the moniker suggested didn't just apply to firearm toting drug dealers...it applied very much to the trigger-happy Metropolitan Police Department as well.

You ask any black Washingtonian over the age of 30 if they are wary of the police and I'd be willing to wager that 90% of the time their answer will be a resounding "Hell yes".
I know the boldness of the brazen criminals you see on the local evening news has some of you believing blacks don't fear the police but bear in mind - not all blacks are criminals. It's baffling I know but trust me, most blacks are honest hard-working law-abiding citizens going about their daily lives trying to avoid drama and conflict at all costs and subsequently they are very apprehensive of the Metropolitan Police Department because of the history I made mention of above and because even today most of the time any type of interaction with the Metropolitan Police Department ultimately leads to some type of drama or conflict.

Ahhight I'm done y'all can go back to arguing about bullshit. Good talk.

In the 90s we were the murder capital of the country. I'm trying to remember... We had some nickname to that effect. I'm not sure the police activity at that time - thirty years ago? - has led to a lasting fear of DC police, especially on current teenagers who have no recollection. I've found DC police to be generally well mannered cheerful. There is a good representation of AA as well, which many have called for in black community policing relations. How they are deployed, how competent they are, and how backed up they are by laws and prosecutors is what I think is under discussion in a thread called why is DC soft of crime. If fear of police officers plays into DC being soft on crime I'm curious how. I know fear of fellow citizens and being labeled a "snitch" is notorious for leading to unsolved cases in DC and something police routinely lament.

Thirty years ago, even the good law-abiding folks of Upper Northwest were wary of the DC police. Marion Barry basically dropped recruiting standards and hired officers who had failed the police exam multiple times. Some even had criminal records. Some MPD officers were known as "thugs with badges." As the Barry brigades were pushed out, washed out, or retired, MPD has become a much better prepared and trained law enforcement agency. It's far from perfect though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:First and foremost, the problem is getting a jury to convict. MPD and Federal prosecutors want convinctions, but jury nullification is a very real issue in DC.

Second, I'm glad MPD does not chase. It would just cause unnecessary death and even more mayhem. It sounds like MPD has taken a harder line this year about doing reconnaissance and confiscating ATVs/motorcycles when riders put into storage or try to park them in backyards. That's how you crack down on them.

I don't think you have an accurate perception of how often pursuits end up deadly, especially for innocent civilians. Plus, people probably wouldn't ride the ATVs in the first place If they knew the MPD was going to chase.

[DC4Life]

They need to chase and arrest. these bikers are breaking the law, riding without helmet. They are taking a risk and if they get injured or die, it is a consequence of taking a risk of doing illegal activity. Innocent people may get hurt. But they are already getting hurt by these morons. I guess the Mayor is waiting for innocent people to die before they think it is a critical issue.