Ted Kennedy Passed Away

[Anonymous]

Laura Bush accidently ran a stop sign, while sober. The teenager that died in the accident was someone she hung out with, and was a friend of hers.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/laura.asp

Ted Kennedy on the other hand..................................

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The person I feel sorry for is DCUM's lone Republican poster, who is apparently so insecure that she thinks she's got an actual talking point here and is flogging it to death.

I agree, a mature person can appreciate both the good and the bad in somebody. Nobody's going to canonize Kennedy. But I feel strongly that he led change for some remarkable progress that has helped millions.

Actually...there is more than one of us on here

There are??

[Anonymous]

can't possibly read through 7 pages of Kennedy. However, my opinion is that he is a murderer, hypocrite, and should have spent time in jail as anyone else who managed to kill someone while drunk and leave them to die. The Kennedy's are nothing special, except a spoilt family with too much money and bad behavior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:can't possibly read through 7 pages of Kennedy. However, my opinion is that he is a murderer, hypocrite, and should have spent time in jail as anyone else who managed to kill someone while drunk and leave them to die. The Kennedy's are nothing special, except a spoilt family with too much money and bad behavior.

Well if you had maybe you would've had the decency to come on a thread where people are saying they're sad he died and post what you did. People have made it very clear that they can acknowledge the great things he's done for this country and not like or excuse the mistakes he's made in his personal life.
And your "spoilt" comment just shows you need reconsider the negative feelings you have about people that are born into money. An interesting line of thinking considering the majority of parents on this earth are doing what ever they can to leave their children money or property.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The person I feel sorry for is DCUM's lone Republican poster, who is apparently so insecure that she thinks she's got an actual talking point here and is flogging it to death.

I agree, a mature person can appreciate both the good and the bad in somebody. Nobody's going to canonize Kennedy. But I feel strongly that he led change for some remarkable progress that has helped millions.

Actually...there is more than one of us on here

There are??

Yes, there are several of us.

[Anonymous]

This presents an interesting question, in my opinion.

And that question is not whether his actions at Chappaquidick were excusable.


It is:

If a person does something very wrong-- say, driving drunk with a woman not his wife and then leaving the scene of a fatal accident-- is there ANYTHING that person can do to find redemption in the remaining decades of his life?

If the answer is yes (and that's the answer that Christian doctrine dictates, for what it's worth), redemption is possible, then the next question is whether Kennedy's accomplishments in civil rights, immigration, education, health, disability, voting, and gay rights, combined with his decades of very hard work and the decent and generous way that he treated the hundreds of people who consider him a friend, his close partnership with his dear wife Vickie, the strength he gave his beloved family in times of trouble, the way that he supplemented some of his staff's salaries with his own income, and his considerable donations to charity can redeem him for that terrible, terrible day when his judgment was so bad.

If not, there is little hope for any of us. Because although very few people go so wrong as he did that night, far fewer spend so many years doing so much good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This presents an interesting question, in my opinion.

And that question is not whether his actions at Chappaquidick were excusable.


It is:

If a person does something very wrong-- say, driving drunk with a woman not his wife and then leaving the scene of a fatal accident-- is there ANYTHING that person can do to find redemption in the remaining decades of his life?

If the answer is yes (and that's the answer that Christian doctrine dictates, for what it's worth), redemption is possible, then the next question is whether Kennedy's accomplishments in civil rights, immigration, education, health, disability, voting, and gay rights, combined with his decades of very hard work and the decent and generous way that he treated the hundreds of people who consider him a friend, his close partnership with his dear wife Vickie, the strength he gave his beloved family in times of trouble, the way that he supplemented some of his staff's salaries with his own income, and his considerable donations to charity can redeem him for that terrible, terrible day when his judgment was so bad.

If not, there is little hope for any of us. Because although very few people go so wrong as he did that night, far fewer spend so many years doing so much good.

Excellent, Excellent post. Judge not, lest ye be judged. He who is without sin, let him throw the first stone.

[Anonymous]

And don't forget "No Child Left Behind" an excellent piece of legislation often overlooked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And don't forget "No Child Left Behind" an excellent piece of legislation often overlooked.

11:32 here. I totally agree. I thought it was included in "education." It's actually a great civil rights law IMHO, but was never backed up with good education laws. Hope Arne Duncan and whoever gets the HELP chair can finish that business including a national standard.

But I digress....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This presents an interesting question, in my opinion.

And that question is not whether his actions at Chappaquidick were excusable.


It is:

If a person does something very wrong-- say, driving drunk with a woman not his wife and then leaving the scene of a fatal accident-- is there ANYTHING that person can do to find redemption in the remaining decades of his life?

If the answer is yes (and that's the answer that Christian doctrine dictates, for what it's worth), redemption is possible, then the next question is whether Kennedy's accomplishments in civil rights, immigration, education, health, disability, voting, and gay rights, combined with his decades of very hard work and the decent and generous way that he treated the hundreds of people who consider him a friend, his close partnership with his dear wife Vickie, the strength he gave his beloved family in times of trouble, the way that he supplemented some of his staff's salaries with his own income, and his considerable donations to charity can redeem him for that terrible, terrible day when his judgment was so bad.

If not, there is little hope for any of us. Because although very few people go so wrong as he did that night, far fewer spend so many years doing so much good.

Excellent, Excellent post. Judge not, lest ye be judged. He who is without sin, let him throw the first stone.

Agreed. Thank you for this.

[Anonymous]

Odd that the "several" people saying how horrible Kennedy was are all making the exact same grammatical error: when you are reaching for the plural, it's "Kennedys" not "Kennedy's."

[Anonymous]

Not Kennedies. JK.

[Anonymous]

More than one person on here is not feeling the love for Teddy boy! Many Republicans, independents and Democrats on this board just don't get the revisionist history for this guy!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:More than one person on here is not feeling the love for Teddy boy! Many Republicans, independents and Democrats on this board just don't get the revisionist history for this guy!

Where's the revisionist history? Who here isn't saying he was a deeply flawed man who ALSO did some great things. Who's denying his past? I just happen to believe, going along the poster above who spoke of redemption, that he made something great of his life and his work helped millions, and his decades of public service are meaningful. I don't forget or deny Chappaquiddick, I just don't believe that was the sum of this man's life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:More than one person on here is not feeling the love for Teddy boy! Many Republicans, independents and Democrats on this board just don't get the revisionist history for this guy!

I'm amazed that you're trying to speak for the rest of us. I mean speaking for others besides your sock puppet, of course.