Ted Kennedy Passed Away

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:"True, but that's because most of us are holding down full time jobs and not living off of trust funds."

Wow, no sour grapes there. Sorry your life sucks so bad, PP. No one held the Kennedys at gunpoint to perform for the greater good, either. But you keep thinking your self destructive way, seems to make you....very...unhappy....


Why do you think that my life sucks? I have a very good life that I wouldn't change. I only made the observation that the Kennedys do not deserve to be painted as some sort of angels of mercy. There are people on this board without famous families, connections or generational wealth who are doing good deeds everyday. Those people are my heroes. If I had extreme wealth, the first thing I would do is focus on something wholly charitable. However, most of us do not have that option in life.
Anonymous
Puh-leeeeeze. MANY people advance b/c of money and family connections. George W. Bush, anyone?

No one is saying Ted was a saint. But, he also did some really great things -already noted here- in advancement of people who did not have his advantages. You don't have to be a "liberal" to appreciate that.

There are some really black-hearted people on this site.
Anonymous
Why is there always the black and white thinking? Why do we ALWAYS have to trot out our own suffering to compare? What. You want the Kennedy's to be perfect? You want them to fuck up and therefore....what? I don't get it...they are people AND politicians and I am hoping that people on this thread can hold these two opposing ideas in their heads.

I think Ted was DEEPLY flawed, BUT BUT BUT he did some amazing work. I look around at my own Irish Catholic family and let me tell you something. I am glad THEIR escapades have not been public fodder. I am not excusing the Kennedy's....I just think it is pathetic when people want to extract ONE or TWO incidents from a LONG life and beat those issues like a dead horse. It is so myopic.

I think the Kennedy Family is as uniquely American and fucked up as everyone else, yet their service is almost unparalleled. Keep your holierthanthou shit for another day people.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Puh-leeeeeze. MANY people advance b/c of money and family connections. George W. Bush, anyone?

No one is saying Ted was a saint. But, he also did some really great things -already noted here- in advancement of people who did not have his advantages. You don't have to be a "liberal" to appreciate that.

There are some really black-hearted people on this site.


Did you read my post? The point that I was making is that people with money and family connections are not more deserving of honor than others because they do charity work or hold public office. And I believe that the PP WAS pretty much saying that Kennedy was a saint which is why I posted in the first place.




Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think Ted was DEEPLY flawed, BUT BUT BUT he did some amazing work. I look around at my own Irish Catholic family and let me tell you something. I am glad THEIR escapades have not been public fodder. I am not excusing the Kennedy's....I just think it is pathetic when people want to extract ONE or TWO incidents from a LONG life and beat those issues like a dead horse. It is so myopic.



You are so right. So what that he left someone alive to drown in a car and didn't report the "incident" for ten hours to save his political ass. Then he lied about it so he wouldn't have to serve a single day in jail. What's the big deal anyway? It was only one incident in a long life. So myopic.

Why don't you save your rant for the media who are about to have him canonized?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Did you play any sports in high school? Thank Ted Kennedy for Title IX.

Did you ever need health insurance after losing a job? Thank Ted Kennedy for cobra.

Just two examples of many.



Did you take advantage of FMLA? Thank Ted.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think Ted was DEEPLY flawed, BUT BUT BUT he did some amazing work. I look around at my own Irish Catholic family and let me tell you something. I am glad THEIR escapades have not been public fodder. I am not excusing the Kennedy's....I just think it is pathetic when people want to extract ONE or TWO incidents from a LONG life and beat those issues like a dead horse. It is so myopic.



You are so right. So what that he left someone alive to drown in a car and didn't report the "incident" for ten hours to save his political ass. Then he lied about it so he wouldn't have to serve a single day in jail. What's the big deal anyway? It was only one incident in a long life. So myopic.

Why don't you save your rant for the media who are about to have him canonized?


Um, were you present at the scene of the accident? Do you have firsthand knowledge of what "really" happened?

The guy did a lot of great work in his lifetime. Sorry you don't appreciate the outcome of a thorough investigation forty years ago, but give some credit to the guy for what he has accomplished as a legislator. FMLA, anyone?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:"True, but that's because most of us are holding down full time jobs and not living off of trust funds."

Wow, no sour grapes there. Sorry your life sucks so bad, PP. No one held the Kennedys at gunpoint to perform for the greater good, either. But you keep thinking your self destructive way, seems to make you....very...unhappy....


For sure! A little envious?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did you play any sports in high school? Thank Ted Kennedy for Title IX.

Did you ever need health insurance after losing a job? Thank Ted Kennedy for cobra.

Just two examples of many.



Did you take advantage of FMLA? Thank Ted.


You beat me to this! Yes - FMLA - I think families shoud *greatly* appreciate Ted Kennedy's lifetime achievements, if for this act alone.
Anonymous
And even if you don't like the guy stopping by on a thread where people are sad that he passed, just to say you don't care, is just a shitty thing to do.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Young girls in Chapaquitic and bottles of bourbon are finally safe tonight.


Exactly. He was a murderer and a coward. I just heard a great story about him last week and how he tried to pick up my colleague - when she was 17 and working as a waitress in Hyannis. He was in his FORTIES. He invited her and her friends to a party and then showed up at their guest house the next evening to "pick them up". He was tanked and disgusting - thank god they didn't go.

He was a real pig.



Anonymous
From Time magazine. Kennedy was a murderer:

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Anonymous
PP you beyond weird.
Anonymous
Mary Jo died around midnight. Let's all read this again (from TIME magazine):

"Moral Strength." Kennedy did not report the accident on reaching Edgartown. Instead, he returned to his hotel, changed his clothes and, after a brief conversation with Innkeeper Russell Peachey in which he pointedly asked the time (2:25 a.m.), paced the floor of his room until daylight. Then occurred one of the more bizarre events in an already fantastic case. Rhode Island Businessman Ross Richards, who had won the previous day's sailing race, testified that he ran into Kennedy outside the hotel around 7:30 a.m. Giving no indication in manner or appearance that anything out of the ordinary had happened, Kennedy calmly discussed boating, even said that he might accept Richards' invitation to join him and his friends for breakfast.

He was still chatting with Richards and others when Gargan and Markham arrived at the hotel and asked him what he had done about the accident. He had done nothing. As Kennedy explained at the inquest: "I just couldn't gain the strength within me, the moral strength, to call Mrs. Kopechne at 2 in the morning and tell her that her daughter was dead." It was 9 before Kennedy notified the police. It was still later—around 11 a.m.—that Gargan told the five women who had been at the party that Mary Jo was dead.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Mary Jo died around midnight. Let's all read this again (from TIME magazine):

"Moral Strength." Kennedy did not report the accident on reaching Edgartown. Instead, he returned to his hotel, changed his clothes and, after a brief conversation with Innkeeper Russell Peachey in which he pointedly asked the time (2:25 a.m.), paced the floor of his room until daylight. Then occurred one of the more bizarre events in an already fantastic case. Rhode Island Businessman Ross Richards, who had won the previous day's sailing race, testified that he ran into Kennedy outside the hotel around 7:30 a.m. Giving no indication in manner or appearance that anything out of the ordinary had happened, Kennedy calmly discussed boating, even said that he might accept Richards' invitation to join him and his friends for breakfast.

He was still chatting with Richards and others when Gargan and Markham arrived at the hotel and asked him what he had done about the accident. He had done nothing. As Kennedy explained at the inquest: "I just couldn't gain the strength within me, the moral strength, to call Mrs. Kopechne at 2 in the morning and tell her that her daughter was dead." It was 9 before Kennedy notified the police. It was still later—around 11 a.m.—that Gargan told the five women who had been at the party that Mary Jo was dead.


Yes let's. "And even if you don't like the guy stopping by on a thread where people are sad that he passed, just to say you don't care, is just a shitty thing to do."

You should start a "I hate Ted Kennedy thread"
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