MD kids lying to get into DC Schools

[Anonymous]

I disagree that non-residents have some sort of derivative that protects them from downside risk. They need to pay $10K or so (on top of taxes they pay to their home school districts), and if the charter turns sour they risk losing not only this money but having their kid getting a worse education than back home in VA or MD. So they are taking on plenty of risk.

[Anonymous]

Well, the ones that are paying the $10K annual tuition by definition are not the ones lying (falsely claiming residency) to get into DC schools.

[Anonymous]

The traffic goes both ways, in fact I would bet that there's actually a net outflow from DC to the burbs. I wonder how many DC residents are actually paying for this versus lying about where they live?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The traffic goes both ways, in fact I would bet that there's actually a net outflow from DC to the burbs. I wonder how many DC residents are actually paying for this versus lying about where they live?

Yes, I am sure that it does. And DC parents who are making the choice to do this are stealing.

Unfortunately within DC it means that you are taking a spot away from another resident who wants to be in the school and that resident ends up at either a less desirable school OR paying for private school tuition.

To the best of my knowledge, the close in MD and VA schools do not have the same model of OOB options that DC does.

[Anonymous]

I think the OOB model may be somewhat similar in MD, although it is less important in Maryland. At the elementary level in MD there are tons of disappointed parents whose kids didn't get into language immersion and highly gifted programs. At middle and high school there are special magnets and consortium programs that families try to get into.

From my understanding of Virginia schools, there are also magnets, language and other special programs that are oversubscribed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The traffic goes both ways, in fact I would bet that there's actually a net outflow from DC to the burbs. I wonder how many DC residents are actually paying for this versus lying about where they live?

I find this laughable. The mere suggestions belies your ignorance of the networks of families which do this and how and why. Nevermind the fact that anybody who can afford to live in DC and commute to MCPS for school, could just move to MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the OOB model may be somewhat similar in MD, although it is less important in Maryland. At the elementary level in MD there are tons of disappointed parents whose kids didn't get into language immersion and highly gifted programs. At middle and high school there are special magnets and consortium programs that families try to get into.

From my understanding of Virginia schools, there are also magnets, language and other special programs that are oversubscribed.

But the fundamental difference between these programs and the DC ones that are the focus of this thread is that the DC charters are lottery and the schools in question are neighborhood schools. The highly gifted programs in Maryland is based on applications / testing as are some (not all) of the magnets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the OOB model may be somewhat similar in MD, although it is less important in Maryland. At the elementary level in MD there are tons of disappointed parents whose kids didn't get into language immersion and highly gifted programs. At middle and high school there are special magnets and consortium programs that families try to get into.

From my understanding of Virginia schools, there are also magnets, language and other special programs that are oversubscribed.

But the fundamental difference between these programs and the DC ones that are the focus of this thread is that the DC charters are lottery and the schools in question are neighborhood schools. The highly gifted programs in Maryland is based on applications / testing as are some (not all) of the magnets.

Ahem. Would you care to elaborate?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the OOB model may be somewhat similar in MD, although it is less important in Maryland. At the elementary level in MD there are tons of disappointed parents whose kids didn't get into language immersion and highly gifted programs. At middle and high school there are special magnets and consortium programs that families try to get into.

From my understanding of Virginia schools, there are also magnets, language and other special programs that are oversubscribed.

But the fundamental difference between these programs and the DC ones that are the focus of this thread is that the DC charters are lottery and the schools in question are neighborhood schools. The highly gifted programs in Maryland is based on applications / testing as are some (not all) of the magnets.

Ahem. Would you care to elaborate?

How many students in the MD highly gifted programs are actually residents of DC who are lying about their true address to get around the system and get into the program? I have not seen a thread about all the DC students who have lied about their real address to get into these programs and are therefore stealing slots from true residents. If this really is a problem - feel free to bring it up. But I have not heard about this issue. In contrast - as you can see from this thread, many people know of students (mostly from MD) who are lying about residency to get into some of the premiere DC Charters / specialty programs (language immersion at Oyster)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the OOB model may be somewhat similar in MD, although it is less important in Maryland. At the elementary level in MD there are tons of disappointed parents whose kids didn't get into language immersion and highly gifted programs. At middle and high school there are special magnets and consortium programs that families try to get into.

From my understanding of Virginia schools, there are also magnets, language and other special programs that are oversubscribed.

But the fundamental difference between these programs and the DC ones that are the focus of this thread is that the DC charters are lottery and the schools in question are neighborhood schools. The highly gifted programs in Maryland is based on applications / testing as are some (not all) of the magnets.

Ahem. Would you care to elaborate?

How many students in the MD highly gifted programs are actually residents of DC who are lying about their true address to get around the system and get into the program? I have not seen a thread about all the DC students who have lied about their real address to get into these programs and are therefore stealing slots from true residents. If this really is a problem - feel free to bring it up. But I have not heard about this issue. In contrast - as you can see from this thread, many people know of students (mostly from MD) who are lying about residency to get into some of the premiere DC Charters / specialty programs (language immersion at Oyster)

ITA. The suggestion that there are DC families lying about their addresses in order to school to school in MD is silly. (Are there DC families lying about their addresses? Yes. But that's to go to school in upper NW, not MD.)

[Anonymous]

Sorry, that should have read:

ITA. The suggestion that there are DC families lying about their addresses in order to go to school in MD is silly. (Are there DC families lying about their addresses? Yes. But that's to go to school in upper NW, not MD.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, that should have read:

ITA. The suggestion that there are DC families lying about their addresses in order to go to school in MD is silly. (Are there DC families lying about their addresses? Yes. But that's to go to school in upper NW, not MD.)

Actually, this statement is silly. We've all heard anecdotes that disprove it.

[Anonymous]

OK, you are the victim. There is nothing anybody else can say that has any validity at all and would disprove your position. Enjoy!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, that should have read:

ITA. The suggestion that there are DC families lying about their addresses in order to go to school in MD is silly. (Are there DC families lying about their addresses? Yes. But that's to go to school in upper NW, not MD.)

Actually, this statement is silly. We've all heard anecdotes that disprove it.

I haven't. Not once. And I've heard a LOT of stories about PG county (Ward 9) residents lying to go to school in DC, and DC residents lying to go to school west of the park. Not MoCo though. I think most people who want to be in Rockthesda that badly just move to Gathersburg and tell themselves it's the same thing.

[Anonymous]

But nearly everybody agrees the MD publics are on the whole better than the DC publics, so even on the face of it, more people would be moving in the direction of MD.