DCPS Lottery Data

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And they CAN go to their IB DCPS neighborhood schools at K.

PreK is not a compulsory grade. You are not owed a seat.

+1. There is no right to free and convenient preschool for the affluent. If you want a spot, there is plenty of room in my DD's EOTP Title I.

Per the new data released by MSDC today, 5986 seats were offered for PK3 this year. A total of 5167 students applied.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And they CAN go to their IB DCPS neighborhood schools at K.

PreK is not a compulsory grade. You are not owed a seat.

+1. There is no right to free and convenient preschool for the affluent. If you want a spot, there is plenty of room in my DD's EOTP Title I.

Per the new data released by MSDC today, 5986 seats were offered for PK3 this year. A total of 5167 students applied.

Ok, but how many will ultimately choose not to enroll? I know plenty of people who matched with an acceptable school but then moved away, stayed in daycare, etc..

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My question for years has been when is a waitlist too long? Some schools have more on the WL than they do seats. Assuming it isn't a Janney situation (only PK4 and no more room), what is the plan?

It depends. Ultimately, they will not add preschoolers unless they can continue to serve those children (factoring in attrition) through 5th, no matter how long the WL is. Some schools have room to grow and want to grow, so they may motivate to add a room as soon as possible. Not all waitlisters are the same. Siblings and IB are most likely to matriculate. Post lottery OOB adds are the least-- if ther were that interested in the school it would have been one of their 12 lottery picks. So it is not a number, but more of a judgment call.

Sorry that it wasn't clear, I was talking about IB WL. I think we might be nearing a tipping point in a few of the districts where something needs to be done.

If many low-income kids are being denied PK3 (or PK4) seats, then something will be done. That's what the early action program is for -- making sure the most in-need students can get these seats. It's also why Van Ness lost that designation -- because its IB population is skewing higher SES.

Keep in mind all these wait lists are as of 3/31 and don't reflect any movement at all. The initial enrollment deadline period isn't over, and many of the people on these wait lists are also on WL at charter schools and might get in somewhere. Gotta wait until schools starts next year to reach conclusions about whether there is a need for more.

The charters are adding significant preschool capacity for 18-19 -- looks like at least an additional 100-150 seats on the way.

And this is another reason why DCPS is in trouble. None of this is mutually exclusive. You are right in that most of the areas effected are not in "in-need areas" but isn't it possible to ensure those who need help get it and help middle class families as well. At the same time, these WL will not move more than 5 people. For the most part these are also families that would like to go to their neighborhood schools (so charters won't help much). And 100 to 150 seats in just a finger in the dike.

As someone who is excited to see the increased IB demand across CH (and especially SH feeders) I do worry about the impact of charter additions temporarily delaying the momentum for these CH ES. Not a good thing or a bad thing, just a thing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My question for years has been when is a waitlist too long? Some schools have more on the WL than they do seats. Assuming it isn't a Janney situation (only PK4 and no more room), what is the plan?

It depends. Ultimately, they will not add preschoolers unless they can continue to serve those children (factoring in attrition) through 5th, no matter how long the WL is. Some schools have room to grow and want to grow, so they may motivate to add a room as soon as possible. Not all waitlisters are the same. Siblings and IB are most likely to matriculate. Post lottery OOB adds are the least-- if ther were that interested in the school it would have been one of their 12 lottery picks. So it is not a number, but more of a judgment call.

Sorry that it wasn't clear, I was talking about IB WL. I think we might be nearing a tipping point in a few of the districts where something needs to be done.

If many low-income kids are being denied PK3 (or PK4) seats, then something will be done. That's what the early action program is for -- making sure the most in-need students can get these seats. It's also why Van Ness lost that designation -- because its IB population is skewing higher SES.

Keep in mind all these wait lists are as of 3/31 and don't reflect any movement at all. The initial enrollment deadline period isn't over, and many of the people on these wait lists are also on WL at charter schools and might get in somewhere. Gotta wait until schools starts next year to reach conclusions about whether there is a need for more.

The charters are adding significant preschool capacity for 18-19 -- looks like at least an additional 100-150 seats on the way.

Fwiw most people whose master numbers were so low they were waitlisted at their IB school, also have master numbers so low that they are not getting into charters either.

[Anonymous]

I am confused by the PK3 data. If Miner has early action , why are there any IB PK3 students on the waitlist?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am confused by the PK3 data. If Miner has early action , why are there any IB PK3 students on the waitlist?

They may need to add a class to accommodate them, or see whether everyone accepts. The situation could have already changed -- these are a month old at this point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am confused by the PK3 data. If Miner has early action , why are there any IB PK3 students on the waitlist?

They may need to add a class to accommodate them, or see whether everyone accepts. The situation could have already changed -- these are a month old at this point.

But if the data is of March 31, why were those IB students not admitted under the guarantee?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am confused by the PK3 data. If Miner has early action , why are there any IB PK3 students on the waitlist?

They may need to add a class to accommodate them, or see whether everyone accepts. The situation could have already changed -- these are a month old at this point.

But if the data is of March 31, why were those IB students not admitted under the guarantee?

Call the principal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am confused by the PK3 data. If Miner has early action , why are there any IB PK3 students on the waitlist?

They may need to add a class to accommodate them, or see whether everyone accepts. The situation could have already changed -- these are a month old at this point.

But if the data is of March 31, why were those IB students not admitted under the guarantee?

Call the principal.

You have to list it as your first choice to be eligible for early action. If you list it as your 2nd or lower choice, you're not guaranteed a seat - which seems fair to me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am confused by the PK3 data. If Miner has early action , why are there any IB PK3 students on the waitlist?

They may need to add a class to accommodate them, or see whether everyone accepts. The situation could have already changed -- these are a month old at this point.

But if the data is of March 31, why were those IB students not admitted under the guarantee?

Call the principal.

You have to list it as your first choice to be eligible for early action. If you list it as your 2nd or lower choice, you're not guaranteed a seat - which seems fair to me.

Whaa? No, definitely not true.

[Anonymous]

Look at Browne. Early action school, 8 seats not matched at all, 5 no preference admits, yet 4 IB non-siblings on the waitlist. ???

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am confused by the PK3 data. If Miner has early action , why are there any IB PK3 students on the waitlist?

They may need to add a class to accommodate them, or see whether everyone accepts. The situation could have already changed -- these are a month old at this point.

But if the data is of March 31, why were those IB students not admitted under the guarantee?

Call the principal.

You have to list it as your first choice to be eligible for early action. If you list it as your 2nd or lower choice, you're not guaranteed a seat - which seems fair to me.

Whaa? No, definitely not true.

+1 not true. You rank in the order you prefer and you are guaranteed the spot

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am confused by the PK3 data. If Miner has early action , why are there any IB PK3 students on the waitlist?

They may need to add a class to accommodate them, or see whether everyone accepts. The situation could have already changed -- these are a month old at this point.

But if the data is of March 31, why were those IB students not admitted under the guarantee?

Call the principal.

You have to list it as your first choice to be eligible for early action. If you list it as your 2nd or lower choice, you're not guaranteed a seat - which seems fair to me.

Whaa? No, definitely not true.

+1 not true. You rank in the order you prefer and you are guaranteed the spot

Definitely. I and everyone I know ranked our IB last because that's the only thing that made sense with the guarantee. Most of us matched there and none were waitlistee.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look at Browne. Early action school, 8 seats not matched at all, 5 no preference admits, yet 4 IB non-siblings on the waitlist. ???

Browne has an early education autism classroom. So it's almost certainly kids with special needs that were assigned there by Early Stages and the 3/31 lists reflect that.

I'd call the school to confirm if you're IB and on the WL.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am confused by the PK3 data. If Miner has early action , why are there any IB PK3 students on the waitlist?

They may need to add a class to accommodate them, or see whether everyone accepts. The situation could have already changed -- these are a month old at this point.

But if the data is of March 31, why were those IB students not admitted under the guarantee?

Call the principal.

You have to list it as your first choice to be eligible for early action. If you list it as your 2nd or lower choice, you're not guaranteed a seat - which seems fair to me.

Whaa? No, definitely not true.

+1 not true. You rank in the order you prefer and you are guaranteed the spot

Definitely. I and everyone I know ranked our IB last because that's the only thing that made sense with the guarantee. Most of us matched there and none were waitlistee.

Last year (15-16) you had to list it first. They changed that (and I know this doesn't explain why there are WL IB students at some early action schools)

From the DCPS website re early action:

To secure their seat at your school, in-boundary families must submit a My School DC lottery application by the Wednesday, March 1st, 2017 11:59 pm deadline. Families will only receive the Early Action PK3 or PK4 match for a school if they are not matched to any other school. Therefore families are encouraged to rank their Early Action Pre-Kindergarten school as their first choice on the application.

If the child is matched with the in-boundary school, the family must enroll the student by the lottery enrollment deadline of May 1, 2017.

Note, if a student is matched with a PK3 or PK4 seat at a school ranked higher than the in-boundary school, the student will no longer qualify for “early action” access at the in-boundary school.