Bullying, physical and sexual assaults at DCPS elementary and nothing being done by principal

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Anonymous wrote:jesus OP. Call the fucking police. your kid is being assaulted and molested at school. At a minimum, you take a family attorney to you for meeting with the school principal. EVERYTHING is on the record. for fucks sake, you do NOT send you kid back there another day. And you need to out the school right now as a service to other parents.

I called the police this morning. They came to my house and told me they would not file an assault report that they only deal with kids the age of 7 up. I said that the incident I was reporting (the assault on the playground yesterday) was with 1st graders who are 7 and 8 years old. They still refused. They said that I don't want to be getting any kids in trouble and my best option is to request a mediation with the families of the bullies and the kids. For everyone's information 3/6 kids admitted to the assault yesterday. We have reached out to the principal's superintendent and this person has not responded to our emails or returned our phone calls as of yesterday at 5pm. Does that sound right about the police refusing to make a report?

For children that young, yes. Do you really think they're going to book a fucking first grader?? In what world would that help??
Holy shit.

What else shoudl OP do? the school is ignorning her so she should just keep sending her kid in to be assualted. And those of you who suggest she just pull him out, um, where is he supposed to go to school? I am assuming this is his IB, why else would he be there? Then DCPS should put him in the school of his parents choice or pay for private. I have been surprised that DCPS will pay for private with kids with special needs and that includes ADD.

Hahaha you are stupid if you think DCPS will jus today to send kids with aDD to private school. If that has happened, they have been court orders to do it for failing the student. I guarantee you, you cannot just up and get them to pay for private. I have a kid who is a behavior problem, and I have been BEGGING for a private placement. No dice. (And yes, I have lawyers). I also guarantee that every parent of his classmates wishes he would get private placement too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We had problems with bullying at Brent -- the principal did nothing. Sorry you're going through this.

This sounds terrible. We had bullying issues at another ES (not as bad, but the climate was not healthy for my son), and we left. The school tried, but it is limited in what it can do.

I actually think schools can do a lot more if they care. My child was the "behavior issue" previously, and it was largely due to problems with the teachers, and the principal not caring or understanding. Ultimately the principal's lack of action/deliberate inaction (coupled with the teacher's inability to manage the classroom) meant that things came to a head and we voluntarily withdrew our child. Which was likely the principal's goal. How do I know it was the school's issue and not (solely) my kid? Because my child's behavioral problems literally disappeared in his next school. Due to this experience I'd never waste my time in a public school where there is a serious issue that the administration does not immediately show they care about and will at least try to address.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:jesus OP. Call the fucking police. your kid is being assaulted and molested at school. At a minimum, you take a family attorney to you for meeting with the school principal. EVERYTHING is on the record. for fucks sake, you do NOT send you kid back there another day. And you need to out the school right now as a service to other parents.

I called the police this morning. They came to my house and told me they would not file an assault report that they only deal with kids the age of 7 up. I said that the incident I was reporting (the assault on the playground yesterday) was with 1st graders who are 7 and 8 years old. They still refused. They said that I don't want to be getting any kids in trouble and my best option is to request a mediation with the families of the bullies and the kids. For everyone's information 3/6 kids admitted to the assault yesterday. We have reached out to the principal's superintendent and this person has not responded to our emails or returned our phone calls as of yesterday at 5pm. Does that sound right about the police refusing to make a report?

For children that young, yes. Do you really think they're going to book a fucking first grader?? In what world would that help??
Holy shit.

What else shoudl OP do? the school is ignorning her so she should just keep sending her kid in to be assualted. And those of you who suggest she just pull him out, um, where is he supposed to go to school? I am assuming this is his IB, why else would he be there? Then DCPS should put him in the school of his parents choice or pay for private. I have been surprised that DCPS will pay for private with kids with special needs and that includes ADD.

I know at least two at a private in Rockville, "asked" to leave from charters.


Hahaha you are stupid if you think DCPS will jus today to send kids with aDD to private school. If that has happened, they have been court orders to do it for failing the student. I guarantee you, you cannot just up and get them to pay for private. I have a kid who is a behavior problem, and I have been BEGGING for a private placement. No dice. (And yes, I have lawyers). I also guarantee that every parent of his classmates wishes he would get private placement too.

[Anonymous]

Having read this thread a couple times, I 'm still confused why the parent is pro-active enough to post here but not enough to call police, harass the administration, call the ombudsman, etc.

Unless OP is a troll?

Just thinking....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:jesus OP. Call the fucking police. your kid is being assaulted and molested at school. At a minimum, you take a family attorney to you for meeting with the school principal. EVERYTHING is on the record. for fucks sake, you do NOT send you kid back there another day. And you need to out the school right now as a service to other parents.

I called the police this morning. They came to my house and told me they would not file an assault report that they only deal with kids the age of 7 up. I said that the incident I was reporting (the assault on the playground yesterday) was with 1st graders who are 7 and 8 years old. They still refused. They said that I don't want to be getting any kids in trouble and my best option is to request a mediation with the families of the bullies and the kids. For everyone's information 3/6 kids admitted to the assault yesterday. We have reached out to the principal's superintendent and this person has not responded to our emails or returned our phone calls as of yesterday at 5pm. Does that sound right about the police refusing to make a report?

For children that young, yes. Do you really think they're going to book a fucking first grader?? In what world would that help??
Holy shit.

What else shoudl OP do? the school is ignorning her so she should just keep sending her kid in to be assualted. And those of you who suggest she just pull him out, um, where is he supposed to go to school? I am assuming this is his IB, why else would he be there? Then DCPS should put him in the school of his parents choice or pay for private. I have been surprised that DCPS will pay for private with kids with special needs and that includes ADD.

I know at least two at a private in Rockville, "asked" to leave from charters.


Hahaha you are stupid if you think DCPS will jus today to send kids with aDD to private school. If that has happened, they have been court orders to do it for failing the student. I guarantee you, you cannot just up and get them to pay for private. I have a kid who is a behavior problem, and I have been BEGGING for a private placement. No dice. (And yes, I have lawyers). I also guarantee that every parent of his classmates wishes he would get private placement too.

Guaranteed those kids don't just have ADD as their only dx. Especially if their private is in Rockville. Likely they are ASD or ED, based on the two SpEd privates I know in Rockville.

ALSO - charters and DCPS are very different in this regard. Charters want to keep their scores up and if they can get OSSE to pay for private placement, they'll do it in a heartbeat. DCPS is under strict instructions to keep private placements to a minimum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Having read this thread a couple times, I 'm still confused why the parent is pro-active enough to post here but not enough to call police, harass the administration, call the ombudsman, etc.

Unless OP is a troll?

Just thinking....

Op did call the police. Who won't arrest 1st graders.

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Anonymous wrote:jesus OP. Call the fucking police. your kid is being assaulted and molested at school. At a minimum, you take a family attorney to you for meeting with the school principal. EVERYTHING is on the record. for fucks sake, you do NOT send you kid back there another day. And you need to out the school right now as a service to other parents.

I called the police this morning. They came to my house and told me they would not file an assault report that they only deal with kids the age of 7 up. I said that the incident I was reporting (the assault on the playground yesterday) was with 1st graders who are 7 and 8 years old. They still refused. They said that I don't want to be getting any kids in trouble and my best option is to request a mediation with the families of the bullies and the kids. For everyone's information 3/6 kids admitted to the assault yesterday. We have reached out to the principal's superintendent and this person has not responded to our emails or returned our phone calls as of yesterday at 5pm. Does that sound right about the police refusing to make a report?

For children that young, yes. Do you really think they're going to book a fucking first grader?? In what world would that help??
Holy shit.

What else shoudl OP do? the school is ignorning her so she should just keep sending her kid in to be assualted. And those of you who suggest she just pull him out, um, where is he supposed to go to school? I am assuming this is his IB, why else would he be there? Then DCPS should put him in the school of his parents choice or pay for private. I have been surprised that DCPS will pay for private with kids with special needs and that includes ADD.

I know at least two at a private in Rockville, "asked" to leave from charters.


Hahaha you are stupid if you think DCPS will jus today to send kids with aDD to private school. If that has happened, they have been court orders to do it for failing the student. I guarantee you, you cannot just up and get them to pay for private. I have a kid who is a behavior problem, and I have been BEGGING for a private placement. No dice. (And yes, I have lawyers). I also guarantee that every parent of his classmates wishes he would get private placement too.

Guaranteed those kids don't just have ADD as their only dx. Especially if their private is in Rockville. Likely they are ASD or ED, based on the two SpEd privates I know in Rockville.

ALSO - charters and DCPS are very different in this regard. Charters want to keep their scores up and if they can get OSSE to pay for private placement, they'll do it in a heartbeat. DCPS is under strict instructions to keep private placements to a minimum.

Charters have more, but DCPS' are not kept to a minimum.

For 16-17 per the October enrollment audit, DCPS had 530 students in outside placements and all charters combined had 692

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:jesus OP. Call the fucking police. your kid is being assaulted and molested at school. At a minimum, you take a family attorney to you for meeting with the school principal. EVERYTHING is on the record. for fucks sake, you do NOT send you kid back there another day. And you need to out the school right now as a service to other parents.

I called the police this morning. They came to my house and told me they would not file an assault report that they only deal with kids the age of 7 up. I said that the incident I was reporting (the assault on the playground yesterday) was with 1st graders who are 7 and 8 years old. They still refused. They said that I don't want to be getting any kids in trouble and my best option is to request a mediation with the families of the bullies and the kids. For everyone's information 3/6 kids admitted to the assault yesterday. We have reached out to the principal's superintendent and this person has not responded to our emails or returned our phone calls as of yesterday at 5pm. Does that sound right about the police refusing to make a report?

For children that young, yes. Do you really think they're going to book a fucking first grader?? In what world would that help??
Holy shit.

What else shoudl OP do? the school is ignorning her so she should just keep sending her kid in to be assualted. And those of you who suggest she just pull him out, um, where is he supposed to go to school? I am assuming this is his IB, why else would he be there? Then DCPS should put him in the school of his parents choice or pay for private. I have been surprised that DCPS will pay for private with kids with special needs and that includes ADD.

I know at least two at a private in Rockville, "asked" to leave from charters.


Hahaha you are stupid if you think DCPS will jus today to send kids with aDD to private school. If that has happened, they have been court orders to do it for failing the student. I guarantee you, you cannot just up and get them to pay for private. I have a kid who is a behavior problem, and I have been BEGGING for a private placement. No dice. (And yes, I have lawyers). I also guarantee that every parent of his classmates wishes he would get private placement too.

Guaranteed those kids don't just have ADD as their only dx. Especially if their private is in Rockville. Likely they are ASD or ED, based on the two SpEd privates I know in Rockville.

ALSO - charters and DCPS are very different in this regard. Charters want to keep their scores up and if they can get OSSE to pay for private placement, they'll do it in a heartbeat. DCPS is under strict instructions to keep private placements to a minimum.

Charters have more, but DCPS' are not kept to a minimum.

For 16-17 per the October enrollment audit, DCPS had 530 students in outside placements and all charters combined had 692

If you're looking at this from the outside in, you have no idea what you're talking about. DCPS is under strict orders to send less kids to private placement. Those kids may have been grandfathered in. Ask anyone at Lab School, Kingsbury, Ivymount, Lourie Center, etc - ask them how many DC-funded kids they have now compared with 7-10 years ago. They will all tell you it's dramatically less. It is getting VERY difficult to get private placement.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:jesus OP. Call the fucking police. your kid is being assaulted and molested at school. At a minimum, you take a family attorney to you for meeting with the school principal. EVERYTHING is on the record. for fucks sake, you do NOT send you kid back there another day. And you need to out the school right now as a service to other parents.

I called the police this morning. They came to my house and told me they would not file an assault report that they only deal with kids the age of 7 up. I said that the incident I was reporting (the assault on the playground yesterday) was with 1st graders who are 7 and 8 years old. They still refused. They said that I don't want to be getting any kids in trouble and my best option is to request a mediation with the families of the bullies and the kids. For everyone's information 3/6 kids admitted to the assault yesterday. We have reached out to the principal's superintendent and this person has not responded to our emails or returned our phone calls as of yesterday at 5pm. Does that sound right about the police refusing to make a report?

For children that young, yes. Do you really think they're going to book a fucking first grader?? In what world would that help??
Holy shit.

What else shoudl OP do? the school is ignorning her so she should just keep sending her kid in to be assualted. And those of you who suggest she just pull him out, um, where is he supposed to go to school? I am assuming this is his IB, why else would he be there? Then DCPS should put him in the school of his parents choice or pay for private. I have been surprised that DCPS will pay for private with kids with special needs and that includes ADD.

I know at least two at a private in Rockville, "asked" to leave from charters.


Hahaha you are stupid if you think DCPS will jus today to send kids with aDD to private school. If that has happened, they have been court orders to do it for failing the student. I guarantee you, you cannot just up and get them to pay for private. I have a kid who is a behavior problem, and I have been BEGGING for a private placement. No dice. (And yes, I have lawyers). I also guarantee that every parent of his classmates wishes he would get private placement too.

Guaranteed those kids don't just have ADD as their only dx. Especially if their private is in Rockville. Likely they are ASD or ED, based on the two SpEd privates I know in Rockville.

ALSO - charters and DCPS are very different in this regard. Charters want to keep their scores up and if they can get OSSE to pay for private placement, they'll do it in a heartbeat. DCPS is under strict instructions to keep private placements to a minimum.

Charters have more, but DCPS' are not kept to a minimum.

For 16-17 per the October enrollment audit, DCPS had 530 students in outside placements and all charters combined had 692

If you're looking at this from the outside in, you have no idea what you're talking about. DCPS is under strict orders to send less kids to private placement. Those kids may have been grandfathered in. Ask anyone at Lab School, Kingsbury, Ivymount, Lourie Center, etc - ask them how many DC-funded kids they have now compared with 7-10 years ago. They will all tell you it's dramatically less. It is getting VERY difficult to get private placement.

Not arguing with you. But IMO it SHOULD be very difficult to get a private placement.
The total charter + DCPS numbers are down by 500 since 2012.

http://osse.dc.gov/enrollment

[Anonymous]

Does anyone know if a safety transfer is permanent? Does the transfer student get feeder rights for middle school and high school? Just curious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if a safety transfer is permanent? Does the transfer student get feeder rights for middle school and high school? Just curious.

Really? Trust me, if you have a child who needs and receives a safety transfer, this is the last thing on your mind.

[Anonymous]

I think the school involved does matter to some extent, because the question is whether the schools has tons of social welfare/poverty-related concerns to deal with and it's possible the principal/teachers are just overwhelmed by the needs of their student body (Tyler, possibly) or whether there is no such excuse at all (Brent, SWS); L-T and Logan likely falling somewhere in between.

[Anonymous]

^^ Basically, the approach I'd recommend to OP varies somewhat if I think the administration is acting in bad faith or is just incompetent.

[Anonymous]

OP, maybe there's something about what or how you communicated that wasn't clear to them. Perhaps they thought you just wanted to vent? You've gotten a lot of advice already. Have you tried anything besides MPD? The cops are right, mediation needs to happen. If you haven't contacted the Ombudsman, here's a grievance form http://dcforms.dc.gov/webform/grievance-referral-online-form

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, maybe there's something about what or how you communicated that wasn't clear to them. Perhaps they thought you just wanted to vent? You've gotten a lot of advice already. Have you tried anything besides MPD? The cops are right, mediation needs to happen. If you haven't contacted the Ombudsman, here's a grievance form http://dcforms.dc.gov/webform/grievance-referral-online-form

I've called and/or emailed everyone that anyone on this list serve has recommended and more. Thank you for the advice. The people that I have spoken with have been helpful, but I am not getting a response from the Instructional Superintendent.

Does anyone have any experience working with a School Resource Officer?