Betsy DeVos and Vouchers - Yes!!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Vouchers are for racists in rural areas to fund religious schools. Such as Bob Jones University. It has no practical application in secular, cosmopolitan, and wealthy city like DC.

This. This is what's actually going on here.

No, what's going on here is my neighbors are leaving for the suburbs because our public schools in DC suck so bad. It's a question of whether we want this city to grow, and it'll grow best without DCPS. So yes to vouchers and school choice.

So will your vouchers cover a private school that will provide sn services? How much tuition will a poor family be able to get with a voucher? Will schools then have to serve all the kids who get in? What will they do when they can't send kids back to their neighborhood schools? Will they start taking kids after count day when a seat opens up? Where will all these private schools come from? Will there be for profit voucher school system with sufficient oversight?

[Anonymous]

^^^ Will we all move to Arlington and MoCo? Try thinking about others too. Surely a system can be established to help all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vouchers are for racists in rural areas to fund religious schools. Such as Bob Jones University. It has no practical application in secular, cosmopolitan, and wealthy city like DC.

This. This is what's actually going on here.

No, what's going on here is my neighbors are leaving for the suburbs because our public schools in DC suck so bad. It's a question of whether we want this city to grow, and it'll grow best without DCPS. So yes to vouchers and school choice.

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[Anonymous]

Those who are excited about vouchers and charter schools and DeVos-style "reforms" should read this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/29/us/for-detroits-children-more-school-choice-but-not-better-schools.html?_r=0

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vouchers are for racists in rural areas to fund religious schools. Such as Bob Jones University. It has no practical application in secular, cosmopolitan, and wealthy city like DC.

This. This is what's actually going on here.

No, what's going on here is my neighbors are leaving for the suburbs because our public schools in DC suck so bad. It's a question of whether we want this city to grow, and it'll grow best without DCPS. So yes to vouchers and school choice.

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Right, 10k vouchers (which will only go to students at the poorest performing schools) will totally fix DC schools.

If you are that arrogant and hate DCPS so much then yes, you should leave.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vouchers are for racists in rural areas to fund religious schools. Such as Bob Jones University. It has no practical application in secular, cosmopolitan, and wealthy city like DC.

This. This is what's actually going on here.

No, what's going on here is my neighbors are leaving for the suburbs because our public schools in DC suck so bad. It's a question of whether we want this city to grow, and it'll grow best without DCPS. So yes to vouchers and school choice.

So will your vouchers cover a private school that will provide sn services? How much tuition will a poor family be able to get with a voucher? Will schools then have to serve all the kids who get in? What will they do when they can't send kids back to their neighborhood schools? Will they start taking kids after count day when a seat opens up? Where will all these private schools come from? Will there be for profit voucher school system with sufficient oversight?

This article is SHOCKING, is this how we want education to go in our country. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/29/us/for-detroits-children-more-school-choice-but-not-better-schools.html?

This is the world of Betsy DeVos and Trump - except neither of them ever set put in these schools their children go private. Disgusting state of affairs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Vouchers won't work in DC. If there were a market for private schools that cost $10,000/year the schools would already exist.

It will help with tuition.

It will drive tuition costs up. A school that is $40,000 now will suddenly become $55,000 when there is a $15,000 voucher.

This, plus no one who qualifies for a voucher will be admitted anyway.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you're poorly informed. DC has a school voucher program that is a miserable failure. Most of the students go to schools that are almost entirely voucher-funded and there is no accredation or accountability process for these voucher schools. The state of these schools is extremely bad. Vouchers will not fix the public education challenges in our city or in our country.

They go to parochial schools that cost less than $10,000, many of which are Blue Ribbon schools where kids learn a great deal in a safe environment. What's wrong with that? PP, you sound like a DCPS troll.

Really? Can you name some since folks on here will be needing to enroll their kids.

Also, you all need to become catholic.

BS, my lying friend

The market will open up to accommodate the voucher amount. Waterside Academy is within the range, and no one gets beat up there. Parochial schools that went out of business will restart. There will be privates that are reasonably priced,and parochials. And no, you don't have to be Catholic to be in a parochial school; sometimes the majority aren't and never become Catholic -> check your prejudice.

DC already has a voucher program and Catholic schools have closed anyway. You are being sold a lie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am an Indian Hindu immigrant who voted for Clinton. How will this impact my children? What happens when the standards of public education becomes very low and there is not much of a curriculum to speak of at school? What will happen if they start teaching the Bible at school?

To start with, any Indian I know is not really depending on the curriculum in this country to educate their child. We all have the parallel system of education going on where are children are being enriched as well as as participating in all possible competitions to gauge where they stand. So, here is an entire community who is already on plan B, and so we will continue to do so.

Christian education? I was educated in convent schools in India. Nuns in habits and all. It did not change my religious beliefs because Jesus became just one of the many Gods that we have and we fervently asked him and Ganesh for good grades. For me,"Bible" reading will be another subject that hopefully will allow them to answer a whole category of Jeopardy questions. They should bring on Torah and Koran and Gita too. Because we need to be able to see what the commonalities in religions are. And as an Indian parent focused on education - all knowledge is good.

Where does this or any education secretary leave us? Frankly, the education standard is so low in the US, that it does not matter to any of us. What can she or anyone do in 4 years? The education is in a downward death spiral here - this needs to be made amply clear to everyone here that having a country completely run by Republicans will not change that at all.

Achievement Gap will become bigger because Asians students are not really depending on US K-12 academic standards for their education. And unless they outsource the teaching to the teachers in India who know how to make silk purses out of sow ears...

Can anyone increase the instruction days in schools? Can we have shorter summer breaks? Can we hold students back if they are not performing? Can acceleration happen for the children who need it? No? Then frankly this is not really impacting us.

If this rambling, fact-free discourse reflects Indian educational attainment, I'll pass. Thanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So people 'of means' aren't entitled to use public services? I guess I'll start running red lights and stop paying taxes.

Please do if you are that simple-minded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vouchers are for racists in rural areas to fund religious schools. Such as Bob Jones University. It has no practical application in secular, cosmopolitan, and wealthy city like DC.

This. This is what's actually going on here.

No, what's going on here is my neighbors are leaving for the suburbs because our public schools in DC suck so bad. It's a question of whether we want this city to grow, and it'll grow best without DCPS. So yes to vouchers and school choice.

Good riddance.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vouchers are for racists in rural areas to fund religious schools. Such as Bob Jones University. It has no practical application in secular, cosmopolitan, and wealthy city like DC.

This. This is what's actually going on here.

No, what's going on here is my neighbors are leaving for the suburbs because our public schools in DC suck so bad. It's a question of whether we want this city to grow, and it'll grow best without DCPS. So yes to vouchers and school choice.

+1

m
Right, 10k vouchers (which will only go to students at the poorest performing schools) will totally fix DC schools.

If you are that arrogant and hate DCPS so much then yes, you should leave.

[Anonymous]

School choice and vouchers will help break the cycle of poverty! Three cheers for President-elect Trump and Betsy DeVos!!! The NEA deserves to go down in flames as yet another arm of the giant blood sucking squid also known as Clinton Inc. that arrogates huge sums to themselves and leaves poor people...POORER...in every way.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous]School choice and vouchers will help break the cycle of poverty! Three cheers for President-elect Trump and Betsy DeVos!!! The NEA deserves to go down in flames as yet another arm of the giant blood sucking squid also known as Clinton Inc. that arrogates huge sums to themselves and leaves poor people...POORER...in every way. [/quote]Yet, we have school choice and vouchers now yet ....

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous]School choice and vouchers will help break the cycle of poverty! Three cheers for President-elect Trump and Betsy DeVos!!! The NEA deserves to go down in flames as yet another arm of the giant blood sucking squid also known as Clinton Inc. that arrogates huge sums to themselves and leaves poor people...POORER...in every way. [/quote]

Evidence please?

Because you sound like a cheerleader paid to promote this giveaway to big business. Or you're Ashley Carter, in which case, great job signing out this time.