Incident at/outside Maury?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maury neighbor here. I agree, it's not fair to just blame 'Maryland drivers' for this. We've all got to get to work every day and I don't begrudge anyone for doing so.

The problem is a serious one, though. It's really out of control and needs to be reigned in. That's MPDC's responsibility, with appropriate direction from elected authority. I hope we don't have to have a child killed before that happens.

If this little girl's injuries were accurately reported up thread, there's little question the driver who hit her was speeding. A broken pelvis is excruciatingly painful and usually occurs when a pedestrian is thrown way up in the air when hit. It's the landing on the pavement that will break a pelvis and there's no way that would happen at the 15 m.p.h. speed limit around Maury.

Prayers for the child and her family. We need to get this under control, now.

But what about at 25 mph? This accident may have happened outside of school zone hours. I actually think a stop sign there might make more sense since it will slow people down at all times rather than at just set times. The Maury playground is a hot spot on the weekends as well.

[Anonymous]

From MOTH - I saw there is now a gofundme page (the mother reluctantly set it up after friends and colleagues pointed out - if not for this, then what):

https://www.gofundme.com/do-it-4-damita-2uu88us

[Anonymous]

I've dealt with DDOT extensively various times as a private citizen - in lobbying to get my street paved, in getting new brick sidewalks on my block of E Street, in working with neighbors to improve safety outside the NE library (seriously dangerous intersection of 7th and Maryland NE). In the process, I've learned what a nightmare DDOT can be to deal with, much worse than DCRA. The wimpy DDOT director and his asshole deputy seem to spend most of their time butting heads with senior people in the agency, and cow towing to well-heeled historic preservation nutters. I can't imagine DDOT being very responsive even if the girl had been killed. The matter clearly needs to go to the Mayor's Office. Only Bowser's people can pressure DDOT to step up.

[Anonymous]

But what about at 25 mph? This accident may have happened outside of school zone hours. I actually think a stop sign there might make more sense since it will slow people down at all times rather than at just set times. The Maury playground is a hot spot on the weekends as well.

The posted speed limit is 15 mph, "When Children are Present." Doesn't matter the day or time. This accident was on a weekday afternoon.

Yeah, stop signs would help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

But what about at 25 mph? This accident may have happened outside of school zone hours. I actually think a stop sign there might make more sense since it will slow people down at all times rather than at just set times. The Maury playground is a hot spot on the weekends as well.

The posted speed limit is 15 mph, "When Children are Present." Doesn't matter the day or time. This accident was on a weekday afternoon.

Yeah, stop signs would help.

Do you mean stop signs to replace the stop light?

[Anonymous]

Do you mean stop signs to replace the stop light?

The intersection at 13th and Constitution is also crossed by Tennessee Ave. I don't think you could govern an intersection like that without traffic lights.

Speed bumps would be better if you ask me, but I'm not a traffic engineer. Other schools on the Hill have the bumps, why not Maury?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Do you mean stop signs to replace the stop light?

The intersection at 13th and Constitution is also crossed by Tennessee Ave. I don't think you could govern an intersection like that without traffic lights.

Speed bumps would be better if you ask me, but I'm not a traffic engineer. Other schools on the Hill have the bumps, why not Maury?

How hard would it be to have a crossing guard for a few more hours afterschool too, until aftercare closes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maury neighbor here. I agree, it's not fair to just blame 'Maryland drivers' for this. We've all got to get to work every day and I don't begrudge anyone for doing so.

The problem is a serious one, though. It's really out of control and needs to be reigned in. That's MPDC's responsibility, with appropriate direction from elected authority. I hope we don't have to have a child killed before that happens.

If this little girl's injuries were accurately reported up thread, there's little question the driver who hit her was speeding. A broken pelvis is excruciatingly painful and usually occurs when a pedestrian is thrown way up in the air when hit. It's the landing on the pavement that will break a pelvis and there's no way that would happen at the 15 m.p.h. speed limit around Maury.

Prayers for the child and her family. We need to get this under control, now.

This is completely untrue. Someone can be hit while going 15 mph and have devastating injuries including a broken pelvis. Unless you are involved in the investigation you have no idea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Do you mean stop signs to replace the stop light?

The intersection at 13th and Constitution is also crossed by Tennessee Ave. I don't think you could govern an intersection like that without traffic lights.

Speed bumps would be better if you ask me, but I'm not a traffic engineer. Other schools on the Hill have the bumps, why not Maury?

How hard would it be to have a crossing guard for a few more hours afterschool too, until aftercare closes?

I would prefer bumps in the neighborhood. It's unsafe for these children to return home. Lincoln Park, a stone's throw from Maury, is dangerous to walk to because of the animals going around Lincoln Park at 40mph. C street NE is terrifying for even adults to cross. Something has to be done. Charles Allen gets complaints about this every day. The DOT has also been informed. I've been there. They just don't care. Allen is a do-nothing idiot, and the Bowser administration prioritizes the needs of commuters over those who did not vote for her in Ward 6. Charles Allen wants to lay low and stay elected - he thinks methadone clinics, no viable middle school, and dangerous streets are okay so long as he stays in "power".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Do you mean stop signs to replace the stop light?

The intersection at 13th and Constitution is also crossed by Tennessee Ave. I don't think you could govern an intersection like that without traffic lights.

Speed bumps would be better if you ask me, but I'm not a traffic engineer. Other schools on the Hill have the bumps, why not Maury?

How hard would it be to have a crossing guard for a few more hours afterschool too, until aftercare closes?

I would prefer bumps in the neighborhood. It's unsafe for these children to return home. Lincoln Park, a stone's throw from Maury, is dangerous to walk to because of the animals going around Lincoln Park at 40mph. C street NE is terrifying for even adults to cross. Something has to be done. Charles Allen gets complaints about this every day. The DOT has also been informed. I've been there. They just don't care. Allen is a do-nothing idiot, and the Bowser administration prioritizes the needs of commuters over those who did not vote for her in Ward 6. Charles Allen wants to lay low and stay elected - he thinks methadone clinics, no viable middle school, and dangerous streets are okay so long as he stays in "power".

I cringe painfully whenever I see a parent biking with a small child around Lincoln Park. I feel it's only a matter of time before one gets hit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From MOTH - I saw there is now a gofundme page (the mother reluctantly set it up after friends and colleagues pointed out - if not for this, then what):

https://www.gofundme.com/do-it-4-damita-2uu88us

Thanks for sharing!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Do you mean stop signs to replace the stop light?

The intersection at 13th and Constitution is also crossed by Tennessee Ave. I don't think you could govern an intersection like that without traffic lights.

Speed bumps would be better if you ask me, but I'm not a traffic engineer. Other schools on the Hill have the bumps, why not Maury?

How hard would it be to have a crossing guard for a few more hours afterschool too, until aftercare closes?

I would prefer bumps in the neighborhood. It's unsafe for these children to return home. Lincoln Park, a stone's throw from Maury, is dangerous to walk to because of the animals going around Lincoln Park at 40mph. C street NE is terrifying for even adults to cross. Something has to be done. Charles Allen gets complaints about this every day. The DOT has also been informed. I've been there. They just don't care. Allen is a do-nothing idiot, and the Bowser administration prioritizes the needs of commuters over those who did not vote for her in Ward 6. Charles Allen wants to lay low and stay elected - he thinks methadone clinics, no viable middle school, and dangerous streets are okay so long as he stays in "power".

I cringe painfully whenever I see a parent biking with a small child around Lincoln Park. I feel it's only a matter of time before one gets hit.

and yet parents bike around Lincoln Park all the time with small children and do fine. There are speed bumps on both the northern and southern sides and clearly marked crosswalk aside from the lights. this is just hyperbole. The roads around Lincoln Park are not even a primary arterial routes for commuters.

[Anonymous]

This is completely untrue. Someone can be hit while going 15 mph and have devastating injuries including a broken pelvis. Unless you are involved in the investigation you have no idea.

It's not 'completely untrue.' I said it was 'highly likely' the driver was speeding, given the extent of the child's injuries.

You are right, the investigation will determine what happened, but please don't tell me I've no idea. Seen to much of this in my day, thank you.

Keep in mind 15 mph is the LIMIT. It is not a suggestion, recommendation or food for thought.

It needs to be enforced, period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maury neighbor here. I agree, it's not fair to just blame 'Maryland drivers' for this. We've all got to get to work every day and I don't begrudge anyone for doing so.

The problem is a serious one, though. It's really out of control and needs to be reigned in. That's MPDC's responsibility, with appropriate direction from elected authority. I hope we don't have to have a child killed before that happens.

If this little girl's injuries were accurately reported up thread, there's little question the driver who hit her was speeding. A broken pelvis is excruciatingly painful and usually occurs when a pedestrian is thrown way up in the air when hit. It's the landing on the pavement that will break a pelvis and there's no way that would happen at the 15 m.p.h. speed limit around Maury.

Prayers for the child and her family. We need to get this under control, now.

The 15 mph speed limit is during school hours. This was after school hours.

It's horrible what happened to the little girl, no question about it. , Everyone wants to blame the evil Maryland driver, but the fact is the child went into the street when the driver had the green. Yes, a person can most certainly get a cracked pelvis when hit at 25 mph or less. Big car, little child. We are talking basic physics here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Do you mean stop signs to replace the stop light?

The intersection at 13th and Constitution is also crossed by Tennessee Ave. I don't think you could govern an intersection like that without traffic lights.

Speed bumps would be better if you ask me, but I'm not a traffic engineer. Other schools on the Hill have the bumps, why not Maury?

How hard would it be to have a crossing guard for a few more hours afterschool too, until aftercare closes?

I would prefer bumps in the neighborhood. It's unsafe for these children to return home. Lincoln Park, a stone's throw from Maury, is dangerous to walk to because of the animals going around Lincoln Park at 40mph. C street NE is terrifying for even adults to cross. Something has to be done. Charles Allen gets complaints about this every day. The DOT has also been informed. I've been there. They just don't care. Allen is a do-nothing idiot, and the Bowser administration prioritizes the needs of commuters over those who did not vote for her in Ward 6. Charles Allen wants to lay low and stay elected - he thinks methadone clinics, no viable middle school, and dangerous streets are okay so long as he stays in "power".

I cringe painfully whenever I see a parent biking with a small child around Lincoln Park. I feel it's only a matter of time before one gets hit.

and yet parents bike around Lincoln Park all the time with small children and do fine. There are speed bumps on both the northern and southern sides and clearly marked crosswalk aside from the lights. this is just hyperbole. The roads around Lincoln Park are not even a primary arterial routes for commuters.

You're a fucking idiot. It should not be a commuter street period. Doesn't matter that I-66 is worse- we don't need maniac drivers period. Try visiting Capitol Hill before you start talking about it.