Incident at/outside Maury?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When a driver hits a pedestrian, the driver is ALWAYS at fault, full stop. A driver needs to be able to stop at any moment in time for anything to come walking, rolling, or flying in his/her visor. That's the law. There is no reason, ever, for a body to be struck by an attentive automotive driver, hitting the breaks when they need to be hit.

First this isn't even the law and second you have no idea what happened here.

Okay, then let's make that "USUALLY". Here is the link to enlighten the matter: http://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/auto-accident/driver-at-fault-pedestrian-car.html
If you read my statement as carefully as you should, I by no means claim to have seen the accident and very clearly make a general statement about these kinds of situations. Even turning "always" into "usually", you'll see that my claim stands because "reasonably cautious" means pretty much all the things I state above, including a kid or a ball rolling or darting out from between two parked cars. The driver's attention - especially near schools (this one is marked in all directions!) - and speed needs to be focused on and adjusted to such eventualities.

What you quoted isn't the law. This is the law which includes guidelines for pedestrians also: http://www.dcregs.dc.gov/Gateway/ChapterHome.aspx?ChapterNumber=18-23

That said I have no idea what happened in this incident but what you said as the law, isn't actually "the law" (unless you are a personal injury lawyer).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When a driver hits a pedestrian, the driver is ALWAYS at fault, full stop. A driver needs to be able to stop at any moment in time for anything to come walking, rolling, or flying in his/her visor. That's the law. There is no reason, ever, for a body to be struck by an attentive automotive driver, hitting the breaks when they need to be hit.

First this isn't even the law and second you have no idea what happened here.

Okay, then let's make that "USUALLY". Here is the link to enlighten the matter: http://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/auto-accident/driver-at-fault-pedestrian-car.html
If you read my statement as carefully as you should, I by no means claim to have seen the accident and very clearly make a general statement about these kinds of situations. Even turning "always" into "usually", you'll see that my claim stands because "reasonably cautious" means pretty much all the things I state above, including a kid or a ball rolling or darting out from between two parked cars. The driver's attention - especially near schools (this one is marked in all directions!) - and speed needs to be focused on and adjusted to such eventualities.

What you quoted isn't the law. This is the law which includes guidelines for pedestrians also: http://www.dcregs.dc.gov/Gateway/ChapterHome.aspx?ChapterNumber=18-23

That said I have no idea what happened in this incident but what you said as the law, isn't actually "the law" (unless you are a personal injury lawyer).

DC is a comparative fault jurisdiction....You can swing into the DC court and sit in on these trials. Very tragic and the sides trying to argue that a pedestrian was a foot outside the crosswalk and therefore the driver is not at fault.
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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How about drivers protect children by slowing the hell down?

They're Maryland assholes. They don't care about DC children.

So true! One ran a red light and sped in front of me crossing in the crosswalk through 4 lanes of traffic while I was with a stroller.

[Anonymous]

Let's stop debating the traffic laws. A child was hit at an intersection right after school exactly where drivers have long been known to flout speed limits and even blow through lights and stop signs. The vast majority of kids on the Hill are either accompanied by adults or trained very well to cross with the light. The traffic situation on Constitution needs to be fixed.

[Anonymous]

Anyone know how the child is doing? And, needless to say, only post if you think it appropriate to do so.

Signed a Hill mom who's watched her young daughter spring loose and run into oncoming traffic. Terrifying. (In my case the driver luckily stopped, but the memory will last a lifetime.)

[Anonymous]

In response to complaints about the traffic on our street, Charles Allen asked for more patrol cars. We are in the Maury district. I've yet to see a single one. Yet another failure on his part.

http://www.capitalcommunitynews.com/content/trucks-commuters-endanger-11th-street

[Anonymous]

http://www.capitalcommunitynews.com/content/car-strikes-middle-schooler-maury

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:http://www.capitalcommunitynews.com/content/car-strikes-middle-schooler-maury

From the article: Ward 6 Councilmember Charles Allen said he's working with the MPD First District officers on targeted traffic enforcement to catch those running red lights, stop signs and speeding. He's also considering the possibility of extending school speed zone hours later for those students in after school programs.

WHY IS HE SO WORTHLESS?!?!?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know how the child is doing? And, needless to say, only post if you think it appropriate to do so.

Signed a Hill mom who's watched her young daughter spring loose and run into oncoming traffic. Terrifying. (In my case the driver luckily stopped, but the memory will last a lifetime.)

MOTH reports that she's in the Children's PICU in critical but stable condition. Broken pelvis and shoulder (and, I believe, also leg from what I'd heard earlier) and internal bleeding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know how the child is doing? And, needless to say, only post if you think it appropriate to do so.

Signed a Hill mom who's watched her young daughter spring loose and run into oncoming traffic. Terrifying. (In my case the driver luckily stopped, but the memory will last a lifetime.)

MOTH reports that she's in the Children's PICU in critical but stable condition. Broken pelvis and shoulder (and, I believe, also leg from what I'd heard earlier) and internal bleeding.

How horrific. This is my nightmare. How old is she? Is she getting support from the community? Were her family with her when it happened?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When a driver hits a pedestrian, the driver is ALWAYS at fault, full stop. A driver needs to be able to stop at any moment in time for anything to come walking, rolling, or flying in his/her visor. That's the law. There is no reason, ever, for a body to be struck by an attentive automotive driver, hitting the breaks when they need to be hit.

This is just wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When a driver hits a pedestrian, the driver is ALWAYS at fault, full stop. A driver needs to be able to stop at any moment in time for anything to come walking, rolling, or flying in his/her visor. That's the law. There is no reason, ever, for a body to be struck by an attentive automotive driver, hitting the breaks when they need to be hit.

This is just wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know how the child is doing? And, needless to say, only post if you think it appropriate to do so.

Signed a Hill mom who's watched her young daughter spring loose and run into oncoming traffic. Terrifying. (In my case the driver luckily stopped, but the memory will last a lifetime.)

MOTH reports that she's in the Children's PICU in critical but stable condition. Broken pelvis and shoulder (and, I believe, also leg from what I'd heard earlier) and internal bleeding.

How horrific. This is my nightmare. How old is she? Is she getting support from the community? Were her family with her when it happened?

She's 11. Her mom is an aftercare teacher at Maury and she was walking to meet her when it happened. So, her mom was on the scene pretty quickly (someone ran to find her), but not there when it happened. I'm not sure whether they actually live on the Hill (no one on MOTH has chimed in to say that they know them personally/outside of the school, so my guess is that they don't); people have reached out to MOTH to ask if there is a GoFundMe set up/or fundraising needs that need to be met and the person who provided the update said they would check back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How about drivers protect children by slowing the hell down?

They're Maryland assholes. They don't care about DC children.

Oh STFU. No one wants to hurt a child. Don't be so glib.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know how the child is doing? And, needless to say, only post if you think it appropriate to do so.

Signed a Hill mom who's watched her young daughter spring loose and run into oncoming traffic. Terrifying. (In my case the driver luckily stopped, but the memory will last a lifetime.)

MOTH reports that she's in the Children's PICU in critical but stable condition. Broken pelvis and shoulder (and, I believe, also leg from what I'd heard earlier) and internal bleeding.

How horrific. This is my nightmare. How old is she? Is she getting support from the community? Were her family with her when it happened?

She's 11. Her mom is an aftercare teacher at Maury and she was walking to meet her when it happened. So, her mom was on the scene pretty quickly (someone ran to find her), but not there when it happened. I'm not sure whether they actually live on the Hill (no one on MOTH has chimed in to say that they know them personally/outside of the school, so my guess is that they don't); people have reached out to MOTH to ask if there is a GoFundMe set up/or fundraising needs that need to be met and the person who provided the update said they would check back.

The aftercare teachers at Maury are real sweeties. I hope everything turns out OK!