Shooting in Munich

Anonymous
I'm in Munich with my family right now.. We were trying to get on the u bahn when we noticed no one was there (though others were going to the tracks behind us). The signs didn't have when the next train was coming and then they announced to leave the station immediately. We walked back to the hotel amidst many police sirens and helicopters. We could see people in bars watching breaking news so we tried to get back asap. The hotel was on lock down also - no one allowed in lobby /doors shut. Glad to be back in the hotel room..
jsteele
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Any German speakers should check out this video which is supposed to be the shooter from the McDonalds on the roof of a parking garage:

https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/756553983250931712

According to translations in the subsequent tweets, the shooter says he is German, was born in Germany, and was bullied while in social services. But, if a good German-speaker could confirm this, it would be helpful.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most people here own a TV. Why post every shooting on here?


Every shooting?

Sister - do you even KNOW how many shootings happened yesterday in the US alone? You are so numb to gun violence it makes me sad for you.
Um, first of all, I'm not a woman, and idiot, I didn't obviously mean every shooting that happens, fool. Every media shooting which is mass shooting, etc is already being talked about on every need channel. You thought I meant every single shooting? Now, I really do feel sad for you. You can't be serious.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most people here own a TV. Why post every shooting on here?


So don't open the thread. Move on to exciting Taylor Swift news....
yea, because it's stoking feal or Taylor Swift. You have to be Republican.
Anonymous

The reason the police were there so fast is that yesterday a guy in the same area tried to kill a bunch of people on a train with an axe.


Several hours' drive away--I don't consider that the same area.





Anonymous
jsteele wrote:Any German speakers should check out this video which is supposed to be the shooter from the McDonalds on the roof of a parking garage:

https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/756553983250931712

According to translations in the subsequent tweets, the shooter says he is German, was born in Germany, and was bullied while in social services. But, if a good German-speaker could confirm this, it would be helpful.


He does mention "I grew up in the Hartz 4" (basically unemoyment benefits in Germany).

Someone else (not the shooter) yells out "fucking Turks." Someone else yells "fucking Kanaken" (essentially, foreigners).

I've seen reports of up to 3 gunmen; others only confirm 1 or 2. Apparently one attacker is dead from a self inflicted gunshot.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:Any German speakers should check out this video which is supposed to be the shooter from the McDonalds on the roof of a parking garage:

https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/756553983250931712

According to translations in the subsequent tweets, the shooter says he is German, was born in Germany, and was bullied while in social services. But, if a good German-speaker could confirm this, it would be helpful.


He does mention "I grew up in the Hartz 4" (basically unemoyment benefits in Germany).

Someone else (not the shooter) yells out "fucking Turks." Someone else yells "fucking Kanaken" (essentially, foreigners).

I've seen reports of up to 3 gunmen; others only confirm 1 or 2. Apparently one attacker is dead from a self inflicted gunshot.


Tweets are moving too fast for me to find it again. But that is similar to a summary I read on Twitter. It was others who were shouting at the gunman about the effing foreigners and Turks. Not the gunman shouting that.

I think that is what that led to the confusion and reports that the gunman was shouting anti-foreigner things.

The lady who CNN was talking to stated she heard him shout Allah Akbar, before targeting children
Anonymous
Here is an apparent translation:

http://pastebin.com/kF84hMfy

Cant seem to copy it and paste it here
jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:Here is an apparent translation:

http://pastebin.com/kF84hMfy

Cant seem to copy it and paste it here


Here it is:

Man: "You fucking Asshole you..."
>Shooter: "Because of you I [unintelligible]..."
Balcony Man: "You cunt you. you're a cunt"
>Shooter: "...and now I have to buy a gun to shoot you"
Balcony Man: "a gun fuck off your head isn't on right"
>Shooter and Balcony man shouting at each other
Balcony Man apparently to people filming: "He's got a gun here the guy has one"
Unseen voice: "Shit/Fucking Turks!"
Balcony Man: "Shit/Fucking Kanacken" (foreigners basically)
Balcony man to someone else : "EY! HE'S GOT A GUN! He has loaded his gun! Get the cops here!"
>Shooter: "I am German."
Balcony Man: "You're a cunt is what you are"
>Shooter: "Stop filming!"
Balcony Man: "A cunt is what you are, what the fuck are you doing?"
>Shooter: "Yeah what, I was born here!"
Balcony Man: "Yeah and what the fuck you think you're doing???"
>Shooter: "I grew up here in the Hartz 4 (unemployment benefits in Germany) area.
Balcony Man and Shooter talk at same time, can't make it out.
>Shooter says something about "Behandlung" which is "treatment" in both medical treatment or just how you treat people,not sure which one he means.
Balcony Man says something like "Yeah treatment is something for you"
>Shooter: "I haven't done anything here for [unintelligible]"
>Shooter: "Just shut your fucking face man"
Balcony Man: "You cunt you"
Balcony Man: "HEY! HE'S ON THE UPPER FLOOR HERE [unintelligible]"
Filming man goes into cover, shooter starts firing.
Balcony man calls him a cunt again.
Balcony man shouts something at him about "shooting here" and Shooter replies multiple times "Yeah, that's where you're right! Yeah you're right with that!" Yeah you're right!"
Video ends.

I would still appreciate additional confirmation from German speakers.
Anonymous
shooting kids is going to help their cause?
Anonymous
Its very difficult to understand what the above conversation reveals except the shooter grew up in Germany. I wonder why the person on the balcony was co froting them?
Anonymous
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here is an apparent translation:

http://pastebin.com/kF84hMfy

Cant seem to copy it and paste it here


Here it is:

Man: "You fucking Asshole you..."
>Shooter: "Because of you I [unintelligible]..."
Balcony Man: "You cunt you. you're a cunt"
>Shooter: "...and now I have to buy a gun to shoot you"
Balcony Man: "a gun fuck off your head isn't on right"
>Shooter and Balcony man shouting at each other
Balcony Man apparently to people filming: "He's got a gun here the guy has one"
Unseen voice: "Shit/Fucking Turks!"
Balcony Man: "Shit/Fucking Kanacken" (foreigners basically)
Balcony man to someone else : "EY! HE'S GOT A GUN! He has loaded his gun! Get the cops here!"
>Shooter: "I am German."
Balcony Man: "You're a cunt is what you are"
>Shooter: "Stop filming!"
Balcony Man: "A cunt is what you are, what the fuck are you doing?"
>Shooter: "Yeah what, I was born here!"
Balcony Man: "Yeah and what the fuck you think you're doing???"
>Shooter: "I grew up here in the Hartz 4 (unemployment benefits in Germany) area.
Balcony Man and Shooter talk at same time, can't make it out.
>Shooter says something about "Behandlung" which is "treatment" in both medical treatment or just how you treat people,not sure which one he means.
Balcony Man says something like "Yeah treatment is something for you"
>Shooter: "I haven't done anything here for [unintelligible]"
>Shooter: "Just shut your fucking face man"
Balcony Man: "You cunt you"
Balcony Man: "HEY! HE'S ON THE UPPER FLOOR HERE [unintelligible]"
Filming man goes into cover, shooter starts firing.
Balcony man calls him a cunt again.
Balcony man shouts something at him about "shooting here" and Shooter replies multiple times "Yeah, that's where you're right! Yeah you're right with that!" Yeah you're right!"
Video ends.

I would still appreciate additional confirmation from German speakers.


It is unclear who is saying what. The non-shooters were yelling "foreigners" probably at the foreign gunmen. It's obvious.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Its very difficult to understand what the above conversation reveals except the shooter grew up in Germany. I wonder why the person on the balcony was co froting them?


Maybe to try to distract the gunman from going off and shooting more people?
Anonymous
jsteele wrote:Any German speakers should check out this video which is supposed to be the shooter from the McDonalds on the roof of a parking garage:

https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/756553983250931712

According to translations in the subsequent tweets, the shooter says he is German, was born in Germany, and was bullied while in social services. But, if a good German-speaker could confirm this, it would be helpful.


He could have been born in Germany but is the child of immigrants and most likely he is Muslim is my bet.
Anonymous
CNN has this poignant quote:

A witness who will only be identified as Lauretta told CNN her son was in a bathroom with a shooter at the McDonald's. "That's where he loaded his weapon," she said. "I hear like an alarm and boom, boom, boom... And he's still killing the children. The children were sitting to ear. They can't run." Lauretta said she heard the gunman say, "Allahu Akbar," or God is great. "I know this because I'm Muslim. I hear this and I only cry."
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