Stanford

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Anonymous wrote:My understanding is that Stanford, more so than the ivies or other top school like MIT, are more into one particular passion/talent to the exclusion of academics. For example, an amazing athlete is more likely to be able to get into Stanford when they could never get into Harvard if they had sub-par academics. I think at the ivies, you have to assume that even athletes or others with special talents are still top students. Not so at Stanford.

Scholarship v non scholarship. Ivies don't do athletic scholarships and don't emphasize sports as much. It creates a different dynamic between the athletes and the school. Plus the Ivy League is not the PAC-12. MIT is division 3 so not a comparable at all.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/06/07/these-colleges-have-the-most-reports-of-rape/

Three Ivy schools, including Harvard have higher numbers and rates of rape than Stanford. Campus rape seems to be more prevalent at top academic schools, although probably under-reported.

Well, bigger schools obviously have more people and that leads to more rapes. What matters is rapes per 1000 students, which the table in the article provides.

The worst schools are:
Reed
Wesleyan
Swarthmore
Knox
Williams
Pomona
Bowdoin
Gallaudet
Beloit
Dartmouth

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I don't see Stanford or any of the Ivies in the "top" 25

Took a couple more minutes, and I don't see any Ivy or Stanford among the first 100 schools ranked by rapes per 1000 students.

You scrolled past the 1st list in the same link that list Stanford in 1st place. Check again.

10th place, not 1st place.

You don't understand numbers. Click on the column that says Reports per 1000, then will you will realize what I am talking about. Stanford does not appear in the first 100 listed universities.

The riskiest schools for women are the ones above.

No, you don't understand. I question anyone who personally says "what matters is rapes per 1000 students." What matters is one rape is too many, period.

Yes, and one murder is too many, but I'd rather live in an area with fewer murders.

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Anonymous wrote:Though one may place bets on being raped on college campuses, I would want to know where did the rapes occur? Were they in a dorm room? At a frat? Walking across campus and attacked by a student or stranger?

Just giving statistics, number of students/number of rapes, is not the whole picture. I would want to know the circumstances of the rapes then I would know how to address my guidance.

It's not unreasonable to know more facts before you throw a blanket over the whole campus. If the Stanford rapes are ONLY occurring in fraternities or fraternity based events, that gives one a much clearer idea of the situations surrounding the rapes.

I was raped at Stanford. It was not at a fraternity or a fraternity-based event. There's 1 for you.

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Anonymous wrote:Though one may place bets on being raped on college campuses, I would want to know where did the rapes occur? Were they in a dorm room? At a frat? Walking across campus and attacked by a student or stranger?

Just giving statistics, number of students/number of rapes, is not the whole picture. I would want to know the circumstances of the rapes then I would know how to address my guidance.

It's not unreasonable to know more facts before you throw a blanket over the whole campus. If the Stanford rapes are ONLY occurring in fraternities or fraternity based events, that gives one a much clearer idea of the situations surrounding the rapes.

I was raped at Stanford. It was not at a fraternity or a fraternity-based event. There's 1 for you.

Was it on campus?

[Anonymous]

Yay, my kid got into an Ivy and Stanford. But I'm not sending him or her because of date rape. Said no mom here ever.

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Anonymous wrote:Though one may place bets on being raped on college campuses, I would want to know where did the rapes occur? Were they in a dorm room? At a frat? Walking across campus and attacked by a student or stranger?

Just giving statistics, number of students/number of rapes, is not the whole picture. I would want to know the circumstances of the rapes then I would know how to address my guidance.

It's not unreasonable to know more facts before you throw a blanket over the whole campus. If the Stanford rapes are ONLY occurring in fraternities or fraternity based events, that gives one a much clearer idea of the situations surrounding the rapes.

I was raped at Stanford. It was not at a fraternity or a fraternity-based event. There's 1 for you.

Was it on campus?

Sorry, you said at Stanford. Since you'very come this far, it might help others, without sensitive details, what type of on-campus environment it occurred. Respectfully, in your comment "there's one for you", I sense you think we feel that rape only takes place in frat activities. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Rape can occur anywhere. The lead story on the local news this morning was about a woman assaulted while walking from Metro.

Share if you wish but do not think anyone is trivializing your experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yay, my kid got into an Ivy and Stanford. But I'm not sending him or her because of date rape. Said no mom here ever.

Early trolling?

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Anonymous wrote:My understanding is that Stanford, more so than the ivies or other top school like MIT, are more into one particular passion/talent to the exclusion of academics. For example, an amazing athlete is more likely to be able to get into Stanford when they could never get into Harvard if they had sub-par academics. I think at the ivies, you have to assume that even athletes or others with special talents are still top students. Not so at Stanford.

Scholarship v non scholarship. Ivies don't do athletic scholarships and don't emphasize sports as much. It creates a different dynamic between the athletes and the school. Plus the Ivy League is not the PAC-12. MIT is division 3 so not a comparable at all.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/06/07/these-colleges-have-the-most-reports-of-rape/

Three Ivy schools, including Harvard have higher numbers and rates of rape than Stanford. Campus rape seems to be more prevalent at top academic schools, although probably under-reported.

Well, bigger schools obviously have more people and that leads to more rapes. What matters is rapes per 1000 students, which the table in the article provides.

The worst schools are:
Reed
Wesleyan
Swarthmore
Knox
Williams
Pomona
Bowdoin
Gallaudet
Beloit
Dartmouth

.....

I don't see Stanford or any of the Ivies in the "top" 25

Took a couple more minutes, and I don't see any Ivy or Stanford among the first 100 schools ranked by rapes per 1000 students.

You scrolled past the 1st list in the same link that list Stanford in 1st place. Check again.

10th place, not 1st place.

You don't understand numbers. Click on the column that says Reports per 1000, then will you will realize what I am talking about. Stanford does not appear in the first 100 listed universities.

The riskiest schools for women are the ones above.

No, you don't understand. I question anyone who personally says "what matters is rapes per 1000 students." What matters is one rape is too many, period.

Yes, and one murder is too many, but I'd rather live in an area with fewer murders.

You do. Apparently previous PP doesn't

[Anonymous]

^^Exercising caution everywhere is the bottom line. All the nitpicking is a waste of time. Move on, folks. Nothing else to see.

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Anonymous wrote:My understanding is that Stanford, more so than the ivies or other top school like MIT, are more into one particular passion/talent to the exclusion of academics. For example, an amazing athlete is more likely to be able to get into Stanford when they could never get into Harvard if they had sub-par academics. I think at the ivies, you have to assume that even athletes or others with special talents are still top students. Not so at Stanford.

Scholarship v non scholarship. Ivies don't do athletic scholarships and don't emphasize sports as much. It creates a different dynamic between the athletes and the school. Plus the Ivy League is not the PAC-12. MIT is division 3 so not a comparable at all.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/06/07/these-colleges-have-the-most-reports-of-rape/

Three Ivy schools, including Harvard have higher numbers and rates of rape than Stanford. Campus rape seems to be more prevalent at top academic schools, although probably under-reported.

Well, bigger schools obviously have more people and that leads to more rapes. What matters is rapes per 1000 students, which the table in the article provides.

The worst schools are:
Reed
Wesleyan
Swarthmore
Knox
Williams
Pomona
Bowdoin
Gallaudet
Beloit
Dartmouth

.....

I don't see Stanford or any of the Ivies in the "top" 25

I wouldn't count on this list as colleges where most rapes occur. Rather colleges where most sexual assaults are reported. There is a big difference between "occur" and "report" and while obviously no sexual assault is ok, perhaps some of the victims at schools on this list feel "more comfortable" reporting rape. Many on the list, and again I make no apologies for being on the list, are small liberal arts colleges where students generally know their professors and administrators better.

Exactly. The colleges in that list may be best at encouraging reports of sexual assault. Th extent tto which colleges will go to discourage reports of sexual assault are almost unbelievable. See Baylor.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, you said at Stanford. Since you'very come this far, it might help others, without sensitive details, what type of on-campus environment it occurred. Respectfully, in your comment "there's one for you", I sense you think we feel that rape only takes place in frat activities. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Rape can occur anywhere. The lead story on the local news this morning was about a woman assaulted while walking from Metro.

Share if you wish but do not think anyone is trivializing your experience.

I don't plan to post follow-ups, but if your point is to truly understand then... Yes it was on-campus, and alcohol was involved. But not excessive amounts (I knew what was happening to me and wasn't able to stop it though I wanted and tried to...I still remember the details 17 years later). It was probably in one of the safer settings you could imagine to be drinking alcohol on a college campus (both in terms of location and people).

Rape can happen anywhere and to anyone. I had previously done very foolish things and never once even felt threatened. In retrospect, of course I could have done a couple of things differently that night which likely could have prevented what happened (and believe me, I dwelled on those for a long time). But I would venture to say that if you accept that people might ever want to speak to and spend time alone with a member of the opposite sex for any reason, then you would consider the situation I was in to be relatively safe. Aside from the fact that we had been drinking earlier, I don't think the alcohol played a significant role in what happened.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, you said at Stanford. Since you'very come this far, it might help others, without sensitive details, what type of on-campus environment it occurred. Respectfully, in your comment "there's one for you", I sense you think we feel that rape only takes place in frat activities. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Rape can occur anywhere. The lead story on the local news this morning was about a woman assaulted while walking from Metro.

Share if you wish but do not think anyone is trivializing your experience.

I don't plan to post follow-ups, but if your point is to truly understand then... Yes it was on-campus, and alcohol was involved. But not excessive amounts (I knew what was happening to me and wasn't able to stop it though I wanted and tried to...I still remember the details 17 years later). It was probably in one of the safer settings you could imagine to be drinking alcohol on a college campus (both in terms of location and people).

Rape can happen anywhere and to anyone. I had previously done very foolish things and never once even felt threatened. In retrospect, of course I could have done a couple of things differently that night which likely could have prevented what happened (and believe me, I dwelled on those for a long time). But I would venture to say that if you accept that people might ever want to speak to and spend time alone with a member of the opposite sex for any reason, then you would consider the situation I was in to be relatively safe. Aside from the fact that we had been drinking earlier, I don't think the alcohol played a significant role in what happened.

I am so sorry to hear about your experience. I hope that you reported the crime and that the perpetrator was duly punished. No means no, no matter what. Thank you for sharing about a truly terrible event in your life and providing the rest of us with your perspective.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, you said at Stanford. Since you'very come this far, it might help others, without sensitive details, what type of on-campus environment it occurred. Respectfully, in your comment "there's one for you", I sense you think we feel that rape only takes place in frat activities. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Rape can occur anywhere. The lead story on the local news this morning was about a woman assaulted while walking from Metro.

Share if you wish but do not think anyone is trivializing your experience.

I don't plan to post follow-ups, but if your point is to truly understand then... Yes it was on-campus, and alcohol was involved. But not excessive amounts (I knew what was happening to me and wasn't able to stop it though I wanted and tried to...I still remember the details 17 years later). It was probably in one of the safer settings you could imagine to be drinking alcohol on a college campus (both in terms of location and people).

Rape can happen anywhere and to anyone. I had previously done very foolish things and never once even felt threatened. In retrospect, of course I could have done a couple of things differently that night which likely could have prevented what happened (and believe me, I dwelled on those for a long time). But I would venture to say that if you accept that people might ever want to speak to and spend time alone with a member of the opposite sex for any reason, then you would consider the situation I was in to be relatively safe. Aside from the fact that we had been drinking earlier, I don't think the alcohol played a significant role in what happened.

I am so sorry to hear about your experience. I hope that you reported the crime and that the perpetrator was duly punished. No means no, no matter what. Thank you for sharing about a truly terrible event in your life and providing the rest of us with your perspective.

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I don't plan to post follow-ups, but if your point is to truly understand then... Yes it was on-campus, and alcohol was involved. But not excessive amounts (I knew what was happening to me and wasn't able to stop it though I wanted and tried to...I still remember the details 17 years later). It was probably in one of the safer settings you could imagine to be drinking alcohol on a college campus (both in terms of location and people).

Rape can happen anywhere and to anyone. I had previously done very foolish things and never once even felt threatened. In retrospect, of course I could have done a couple of things differently that night which likely could have prevented what happened (and believe me, I dwelled on those for a long time). But I would venture to say that if you accept that people might ever want to speak to and spend time alone with a member of the opposite sex for any reason, then you would consider the situation I was in to be relatively safe. Aside from the fact that we had been drinking earlier, I don't think the alcohol played a significant role in what happened.

I'm so sorry about what happened to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, Brock Turner lied to the judge about his innocent past. Who's shocked?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3633161/Stanford-rapist-pictured-bong-Photos-Brock-Tuner-smoking-prove-lied-judge-illicit-drug-use-text-messages-references-taking-LSD-ecstasy.html

Couldn't he be charged with perjury now?