Stanford

[Anonymous]

So, Brock Turner lied to the judge about his innocent past. Who's shocked?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3633161/Stanford-rapist-pictured-bong-Photos-Brock-Tuner-smoking-prove-lied-judge-illicit-drug-use-text-messages-references-taking-LSD-ecstasy.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, Brock Turner lied to the judge about his innocent past. Who's shocked?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3633161/Stanford-rapist-pictured-bong-Photos-Brock-Tuner-smoking-prove-lied-judge-illicit-drug-use-text-messages-references-taking-LSD-ecstasy.html

I am shoked.

The Daily Mail breaking US-centered news before our investigative journalism powerhouse "paper of record"!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, Brock Turner lied to the judge about his innocent past. Who's shocked?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3633161/Stanford-rapist-pictured-bong-Photos-Brock-Tuner-smoking-prove-lied-judge-illicit-drug-use-text-messages-references-taking-LSD-ecstasy.html

I am shoked.

The Daily Mail breaking US-centered news before our investigative journalism powerhouse "paper of record"!

I saw/heard about Turner's past on Good Morning America today. It was part of the lead-in.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My understanding is that Stanford, more so than the ivies or other top school like MIT, are more into one particular passion/talent to the exclusion of academics. For example, an amazing athlete is more likely to be able to get into Stanford when they could never get into Harvard if they had sub-par academics. I think at the ivies, you have to assume that even athletes or others with special talents are still top students. Not so at Stanford.

Scholarship v non scholarship. Ivies don't do athletic scholarships and don't emphasize sports as much. It creates a different dynamic between the athletes and the school. Plus the Ivy League is not the PAC-12. MIT is division 3 so not a comparable at all.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/06/07/these-colleges-have-the-most-reports-of-rape/

Three Ivy schools, including Harvard have higher numbers and rates of rape than Stanford. Campus rape seems to be more prevalent at top academic schools, although probably under-reported.

Well, bigger schools obviously have more people and that leads to more rapes. What matters is rapes per 1000 students, which the table in the article provides.

The worst schools are:
Reed
Wesleyan
Swarthmore
Knox
Williams
Pomona
Bowdoin
Gallaudet
Beloit
Dartmouth

.....

I don't see Stanford or any of the Ivies in the "top" 25

Took a couple more minutes, and I don't see any Ivy or Stanford among the first 100 schools ranked by rapes per 1000 students.

Does Dartmouth count?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, Brock Turner lied to the judge about his innocent past. Who's shocked?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3633161/Stanford-rapist-pictured-bong-Photos-Brock-Tuner-smoking-prove-lied-judge-illicit-drug-use-text-messages-references-taking-LSD-ecstasy.html

I am shoked.

The Daily Mail breaking US-centered news before our investigative journalism powerhouse "paper of record"!

I saw/heard about Turner's past on Good Morning America today. It was part of the lead-in.

Could his sentence be changed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My understanding is that Stanford, more so than the ivies or other top school like MIT, are more into one particular passion/talent to the exclusion of academics. For example, an amazing athlete is more likely to be able to get into Stanford when they could never get into Harvard if they had sub-par academics. I think at the ivies, you have to assume that even athletes or others with special talents are still top students. Not so at Stanford.

Scholarship v non scholarship. Ivies don't do athletic scholarships and don't emphasize sports as much. It creates a different dynamic between the athletes and the school. Plus the Ivy League is not the PAC-12. MIT is division 3 so not a comparable at all.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/06/07/these-colleges-have-the-most-reports-of-rape/

Three Ivy schools, including Harvard have higher numbers and rates of rape than Stanford. Campus rape seems to be more prevalent at top academic schools, although probably under-reported.

Well, bigger schools obviously have more people and that leads to more rapes. What matters is rapes per 1000 students, which the table in the article provides.

The worst schools are:
Reed
Wesleyan
Swarthmore
Knox
Williams
Pomona
Bowdoin
Gallaudet
Beloit
Dartmouth

.....

I don't see Stanford or any of the Ivies in the "top" 25

Took a couple more minutes, and I don't see any Ivy or Stanford among the first 100 schools ranked by rapes per 1000 students.

Does Dartmouth count?

True

Congrats, Dartmouth! Finally, you are the best Ivy at something...

[Anonymous]

Interesting when you consider the locations of those schools. Mostly one general area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's a different list dated 9/2015 since the Washington Post doesn't have a monopoly on data.

Stanford is No 11 on this list of the top 25.

http://colleges.startclass.com/stories/6062/colleges-sexual-assaults-on-campus#Intro

This list has five Ivys and Stanford in the first 15 schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's a different list dated 9/2015 since the Washington Post doesn't have a monopoly on data.

Stanford is No 11 on this list of the top 25.

http://colleges.startclass.com/stories/6062/colleges-sexual-assaults-on-campus#Intro

This list has five Ivys and Stanford in the first 15 schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's a different list dated 9/2015 since the Washington Post doesn't have a monopoly on data.

Stanford is No 11 on this list of the top 25.

http://colleges.startclass.com/stories/6062/colleges-sexual-assaults-on-campus#Intro

This list has five Ivys and Stanford in the first 15 schools

Yes, and it is not ordered properly. Did you guys truly finish high school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting when you consider the locations of those schools. Mostly one general area.

Which general area?

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Interesting when you consider the locations of those schools. Mostly one general area.[/quote]

Which general area?[/quote]

They are all over the country. MaIne, Wisconsin, California, Oregon, Massachsetts, Illinois, D.C. etc. and while the majority are in small towns, several are close to or in cities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My understanding is that Stanford, more so than the ivies or other top school like MIT, are more into one particular passion/talent to the exclusion of academics. For example, an amazing athlete is more likely to be able to get into Stanford when they could never get into Harvard if they had sub-par academics. I think at the ivies, you have to assume that even athletes or others with special talents are still top students. Not so at Stanford.

Scholarship v non scholarship. Ivies don't do athletic scholarships and don't emphasize sports as much. It creates a different dynamic between the athletes and the school. Plus the Ivy League is not the PAC-12. MIT is division 3 so not a comparable at all.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/06/07/these-colleges-have-the-most-reports-of-rape/

Three Ivy schools, including Harvard have higher numbers and rates of rape than Stanford. Campus rape seems to be more prevalent at top academic schools, although probably under-reported.

Well, bigger schools obviously have more people and that leads to more rapes. What matters is rapes per 1000 students, which the table in the article provides.

The worst schools are:
Reed
Wesleyan
Swarthmore
Knox
Williams
Pomona
Bowdoin
Gallaudet
Beloit
Dartmouth

.....

I don't see Stanford or any of the Ivies in the "top" 25

I wouldn't count on this list as colleges where most rapes occur. Rather colleges where most sexual assaults are reported. There is a big difference between "occur" and "report" and while obviously no sexual assault is ok, perhaps some of the victims at schools on this list feel "more comfortable" reporting rape. Many on the list, and again I make no apologies for being on the list, are small liberal arts colleges where students generally know their professors and administrators better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My understanding is that Stanford, more so than the ivies or other top school like MIT, are more into one particular passion/talent to the exclusion of academics. For example, an amazing athlete is more likely to be able to get into Stanford when they could never get into Harvard if they had sub-par academics. I think at the ivies, you have to assume that even athletes or others with special talents are still top students. Not so at Stanford.

Scholarship v non scholarship. Ivies don't do athletic scholarships and don't emphasize sports as much. It creates a different dynamic between the athletes and the school. Plus the Ivy League is not the PAC-12. MIT is division 3 so not a comparable at all.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/06/07/these-colleges-have-the-most-reports-of-rape/

Three Ivy schools, including Harvard have higher numbers and rates of rape than Stanford. Campus rape seems to be more prevalent at top academic schools, although probably under-reported.

Well, bigger schools obviously have more people and that leads to more rapes. What matters is rapes per 1000 students, which the table in the article provides.

The worst schools are:
Reed
Wesleyan
Swarthmore
Knox
Williams
Pomona
Bowdoin
Gallaudet
Beloit
Dartmouth

.....

I don't see Stanford or any of the Ivies in the "top" 25

I wouldn't count on this list as colleges where most rapes occur. Rather colleges where most sexual assaults are reported. There is a big difference between "occur" and "report" and while obviously no sexual assault is ok, perhaps some of the victims at schools on this list feel "more comfortable" reporting rape. Many on the list, and again I make no apologies for being on the list, are small liberal arts colleges where students generally know their professors and administrators better.

You may be right, but the stats at scary. At Reed, for example, crunching some quick numbers, the average female student has a 10% chance of being raped in the course of her 4-years degree (10 times higher than at Stanford).

And that's just based on reported rapes. Real ones, as you point out, may be higher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, Brock Turner lied to the judge about his innocent past. Who's shocked?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3633161/Stanford-rapist-pictured-bong-Photos-Brock-Tuner-smoking-prove-lied-judge-illicit-drug-use-text-messages-references-taking-LSD-ecstasy.html

I am shoked.

The Daily Mail breaking US-centered news before our investigative journalism powerhouse "paper of record"!

I saw/heard about Turner's past on Good Morning America today. It was part of the lead-in.

Could his sentence be changed?

Brock Turner. Another case of affluenza.