$64,000 per refugee to relocate them to the US?

[Anonymous]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/turkey-detains-3-russians-in-anti-is-raid-after-bombing/2016/01/13/19513bc4-b9e0-11e5-85cd-5ad59bc19432_story.html

This Washington Post article also says he was a registered refugee

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/turkey-detains-3-russians-in-anti-is-raid-after-bombing/2016/01/13/19513bc4-b9e0-11e5-85cd-5ad59bc19432_story.html

This Washington Post article also says he was a registered refugee

This is completely irrelevant to this discussion. As I said earlier upthread. There isn't a debate about whether terrorists are hiding among refugees, the question is whether the US screening system is adequate. And once again it has over a decade of non-incidents to support the claim that it is. Turkey, apparently, does not.

AND a HUGE element that everyone here is missing when you talk about the refugees in Europe is that they are literally walking into those countries. No refugee will be allowed to come on US soil until they've been vetted. That is not the case in countries like Turkey where they are literally migrating on foot from Syria.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/turkey-detains-3-russians-in-anti-is-raid-after-bombing/2016/01/13/19513bc4-b9e0-11e5-85cd-5ad59bc19432_story.html

This Washington Post article also says he was a registered refugee

This is completely irrelevant to this discussion. As I said earlier upthread. There isn't a debate about whether terrorists are hiding among refugees, the question is whether the US screening system is adequate. And once again it has over a decade of non-incidents to support the claim that it is. Turkey, apparently, does not.

AND a HUGE element that everyone here is missing when you talk about the refugees in Europe is that they are literally walking into those countries. No refugee will be allowed to come on US soil until they've been vetted. That is not the case in countries like Turkey where they are literally migrating on foot from Syria.

Polls suggest more than 50% of Americans do think it is relevant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/turkey-detains-3-russians-in-anti-is-raid-after-bombing/2016/01/13/19513bc4-b9e0-11e5-85cd-5ad59bc19432_story.html

This Washington Post article also says he was a registered refugee

This is completely irrelevant to this discussion. As I said earlier upthread. There isn't a debate about whether terrorists are hiding among refugees, the question is whether the US screening system is adequate. And once again it has over a decade of non-incidents to support the claim that it is. Turkey, apparently, does not.

AND a HUGE element that everyone here is missing when you talk about the refugees in Europe is that they are literally walking into those countries. No refugee will be allowed to come on US soil until they've been vetted. That is not the case in countries like Turkey where they are literally migrating on foot from Syria.

Polls suggest more than 50% of Americans do think it is relevant.

What is the poll question you are referring to? Because once again, there isn't a question about whether or not there are terrorists hiding in the refugees, the relevant question is about our screening system. I don't question that Americans are concerned, I question that they are correctly informed.

[Anonymous]

Too many Americans lack critical thinking skills and accept what they read or hear at face value.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Too many Americans lack critical thinking skills and accept what they read or hear at face value.

Have you watched the interviews of the German women and young girls that describe 1,000 men on the train platform that began attacking them when they tried to walk through? Do you believe them? What about the interviews with the Swedish women that were attacked? What about the attacks in October by a refugee camp by "Middle Eastern men?" Do they have the critical thinking you are talking about?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Too many Americans lack critical thinking skills and accept what they read or hear at face value.

Have you watched the interviews of the German women and young girls that describe 1,000 men on the train platform that began attacking them when they tried to walk through? Do you believe them? What about the interviews with the Swedish women that were attacked? What about the attacks in October by a refugee camp by "Middle Eastern men?" Do they have the critical thinking you are talking about?

Will you respond to any of my points talking about how what happens in Germany is not necessarily relevant when it comes to whether or not the US should accept refugees? Or do you just want to keep throwing out the 'there was a terrorist in germany!' talking point?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Too many Americans lack critical thinking skills and accept what they read or hear at face value.

Have you watched the interviews of the German women and young girls that describe 1,000 men on the train platform that began attacking them when they tried to walk through? Do you believe them? What about the interviews with the Swedish women that were attacked? What about the attacks in October by a refugee camp by "Middle Eastern men?" Do they have the critical thinking you are talking about?

Will you respond to any of my points talking about how what happens in Germany is not necessarily relevant when it comes to whether or not the US should accept refugees? Or do you just want to keep throwing out the 'there was a terrorist in germany!' talking point?

Looks like they missed screening these two.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/07/us/terror-charges-refugees/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would rather help the refugees than the illegals immigrants from the south.

I'd rather help the refugees than those who would easily find employment if they'd get off meth, give up alcohol or just get up off their lazy rears and work three min wage jobs if they had to (just like my economic refugee ancestors did).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Too many Americans lack critical thinking skills and accept what they read or hear at face value.

Have you watched the interviews of the German women and young girls that describe 1,000 men on the train platform that began attacking them when they tried to walk through? Do you believe them? What about the interviews with the Swedish women that were attacked? What about the attacks in October by a refugee camp by "Middle Eastern men?" Do they have the critical thinking you are talking about?

Will you respond to any of my points talking about how what happens in Germany is not necessarily relevant when it comes to whether or not the US should accept refugees? Or do you just want to keep throwing out the 'there was a terrorist in germany!' talking point?

Looks like they missed screening these two.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/07/us/terror-charges-refugees/

Those people were arrested because they weren't totally honest in their immigration interviews. They did not commit terrorist attacks. Try again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Too many Americans lack critical thinking skills and accept what they read or hear at face value.

Have you watched the interviews of the German women and young girls that describe 1,000 men on the train platform that began attacking them when they tried to walk through? Do you believe them? What about the interviews with the Swedish women that were attacked? What about the attacks in October by a refugee camp by "Middle Eastern men?" Do they have the critical thinking you are talking about?

Will you respond to any of my points talking about how what happens in Germany is not necessarily relevant when it comes to whether or not the US should accept refugees? Or do you just want to keep throwing out the 'there was a terrorist in germany!' talking point?

Looks like they missed screening these two.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/07/us/terror-charges-refugees/

Those people were arrested because they weren't totally honest in their immigration interviews. They did not commit terrorist attacks. Try again.

Nope you are blindly defending them with incorrect facts. It specifically says:

"Omar Faraj Saeed Al Hardan, 24, of Houston, is charged with attempting to provide material support to ISIS."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Too many Americans lack critical thinking skills and accept what they read or hear at face value.

Have you watched the interviews of the German women and young girls that describe 1,000 men on the train platform that began attacking them when they tried to walk through? Do you believe them? What about the interviews with the Swedish women that were attacked? What about the attacks in October by a refugee camp by "Middle Eastern men?" Do they have the critical thinking you are talking about?

Will you respond to any of my points talking about how what happens in Germany is not necessarily relevant when it comes to whether or not the US should accept refugees? Or do you just want to keep throwing out the 'there was a terrorist in germany!' talking point?

Looks like they missed screening these two.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/07/us/terror-charges-refugees/

Those people were arrested because they weren't totally honest in their immigration interviews. They did not commit terrorist attacks. Try again.

Nope you are blindly defending them with incorrect facts. It specifically says:

"Omar Faraj Saeed Al Hardan, 24, of Houston, is charged with attempting to provide material support to ISIS."

We're havign the same conversation on two threads. Once again, not a terrorist attack. The FBI caught it, they were arrested. This population is heavily scrutinized. You still have not provided an example of a terrorist act (someone getting hurt in the name of ISIS or whatever) committed by a refugee.

[Anonymous]

http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/texas-man-charged-attempting-provide-material-support-isil

The DOJ link is above. He was a refugee and got permanent legal status. Pick a crime-he was willing to commit and aid and abet.

And this ingrate isn't an example? Call it refugee, call it visa. And here's that "refugee" and his accomplice plus some relatives:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/08/us/terror-charges-refugees/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/texas-man-charged-attempting-provide-material-support-isil

The DOJ link is above. He was a refugee and got permanent legal status. Pick a crime-he was willing to commit and aid and abet.

And this ingrate isn't an example? Call it refugee, call it visa. And here's that "refugee" and his accomplice plus some relatives:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/08/us/terror-charges-refugees/

I have responded numerous times to this. I am not questioning whether these two exist, whether they have been charged or whether they were refugees.

I will say that

1) They have not committed a terrorist attack, they are charged with attempting to help ISIS. This is terrible, its great that they are being charged. This is the system working. We screen and then these people are under higher scrutiny. These people were caught. The system is working.

2) These were both Palistinians who were born in Iraq who came long before the current crisis. Just pointing out that this is not an example of an evil Syrian refugee for anyone who doesn't click the ink.

3) I know this probably doesn't matter to you at all. But our justice system DOES work on the presumption of innocence and neither of these people have been convicted yet. In fact a quote from the DOJ release: "An indictment is merely a formal charging document and is not evidence of guilt. Every defendant is presumed innocent until and unless proven guilty."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/texas-man-charged-attempting-provide-material-support-isil

The DOJ link is above. He was a refugee and got permanent legal status. Pick a crime-he was willing to commit and aid and abet.

And this ingrate isn't an example? Call it refugee, call it visa. And here's that "refugee" and his accomplice plus some relatives:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/08/us/terror-charges-refugees/

I have responded numerous times to this. I am not questioning whether these two exist, whether they have been charged or whether they were refugees.

I will say that

1) They have not committed a terrorist attack, they are charged with attempting to help ISIS. This is terrible, its great that they are being charged. This is the system working. We screen and then these people are under higher scrutiny. These people were caught. The system is working.

2) These were both Palistinians who were born in Iraq who came long before the current crisis. Just pointing out that this is not an example of an evil Syrian refugee for anyone who doesn't click the ink.

3) I know this probably doesn't matter to you at all. But our justice system DOES work on the presumption of innocence and neither of these people have been convicted yet. In fact a quote from the DOJ release: "An indictment is merely a formal charging document and is not evidence of guilt. Every defendant is presumed innocent until and unless proven guilty."

Oh I feel so much better. He was only trying to help Isis.

And the Somalis were part of the refugee program and try telling the man they brutally murdered for hours that they didn't commit any act of "terror." Sure sounds like terror to me.