A 'terrorist attack' is a real thing not simply applied to any act where someone happens to feel terrified. How many home grown americans murder someone every day? That is just crime, it happens. I'm not defending it but it was not a terrorist act. But now that you've just reduced yourself to emotional arguments I hope others can see that you aren't telling the truth. |
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The bottom line is not whether they have been convicted but the fact that our country took in these refugees and they have abused our hospitality.
KISS method. What part of the word ISIS do you not understand? If we had a system that was working then we would not have had San Bernardino nor Paris. |
No that is not the bottom line. First of all if they haven't been convicted then they may not have done anything. San Bernardino had NOTHING TO DO WITH REFUGEES. And Paris is not in the United States. And I'm not sure what part of the acronym ISIS you think I am misunderstanding? KISS = keep it simple stupid? So you believe that if one muslim does something bad, then we should reject millions of needy muslims because that's the easy and simple choice? I kind of thought being an American (and being a christian) was more about doing anything to fight for people's rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I thought it was about welcoming people from across the world with the promise of the American dream that hard work and dedication could make you a happy life. I didn't realize America was full of cowards now. |
I am a different poster from before. You are having this argument with several different posters. |
Ok? I don't think anything I said was not related to your post. |
"Al-Hardan was charged with providing material support to the Islamic State militant group and for making false statements about ties to the group when seeking U.S. naturalization, according to an indictment in federal court in Houston unsealed on Thursday." Do you not consider providing material support to Isis as a terrorist act? One can only imagine what they had plans to do here if they were helping Isis. I do no think it is I that is not telling the truth about the facts. You are trying to create smoke and mirrors to cover it up. What about the men arrested in Rochester, NY for plotting to kill people on New Year's? |
I'm sick of looking up links for you people. If you want to throw out an event in Rochester, link to a source. He could have provided support to ISIS anywhere. There was no act that endangered people. He should be deported for supporting ISIS hands down but he was caught by the authorities before anything happened. Its not smoke and mirrors to say that the terrorists in Paris shot a whole bunch of people and nothing comparable has happened here. It is REALLY hard to get into the US as a refugee. There are MUCH easier ways. And what none of you have acknowledged is that most incidents that happen with refugees happen long after they've immigrated. Their radicalization happened WHILE THEY WERE IN AMERICA. The Texas guy immigrated from Palistine in 2009! Maybe people like you should acknowledge how your attitudes are contributing to growing terrorists on our own soil instead of making spurious connections. Even if I gave you the Texas guys full and out AND the somalis from Maine it would be an incident rate of .00000076% of refugees entered since 2001. The idea that you would turn people away based on off THAT level of risk is just disgusting an cowardly. |
Obviously not hard enough to get in. Take a link at this article. Several refugees on this list that either support Isis, were planning attacks here, and even fought in Syria. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3322649/The-enemy-Nearly-SEVENTY-arrested-America-ISIS-plots-include-refugees-given-safe-haven-turned-terror.html |
This! Obama is a joke and we're tired of his snake oil. He wants to promise everything to everybody and hope we're all stupid enough to believe him. You have hardworking Latino families here, poor African Americans here, homeless veterans here. Let's take care of them before we entertain Obama's impossible, and, quite frankly, cruel, promises. Shame on him. |
Ok first of all The Daily Mail? The articles in the right rail feature such gems as ~'It's hard being a girl': Kylie Jenner resolves to tone down her hair and make-up for 2016 because 'it's too much to maintain' Wants a 'natural' look ~Pregnant Chrissy Teigen reveals she has '40 DD boobs' and that her 'nipples are all sorts of weird right now' on FABlife show Expecting her first child So yeah great news source. Secondly that article is a huge mashup of all KINDS of people and is talking primarily about ISIS recruiting people in the midwest. Half of those people are Americans, not even immigrants. One is an ex serviceman. The one refugee I saw while skimming was an adult who came here at age 9 so was almost certainly radicalized in America. |
I wrote the KISS method. You are arguing with yourself. Growing terrorists? I don't care in what year that creep came here. 1970 or 2009. Allowed to live as a guest in MY country and support ISIS? No. ISIS=enemy alien. WTF do you want ? A release on bond and no media on this BS? |
Dude, simmer the fuck down. We've only brought a handful of Syrians into the country in the last 3 years. Not even 200. It's not as though program funding for everything else is running dry as a result. |
You don't know how many we imported already. |
Wrong again. According to NYT it is 1800 - not to mention the thousands of refugees not from Syria that the administration has brought in. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/10/21/us/where-syrian-refugees-are-in-the-united-states.html?_r=0 |
Thank you for providing the true numbers. Someone else is a liar. |