Continue at current school after moving out of boundary?

[Anonymous]

OP your logic makes no sense. Everyone would do this if it was an option; rent and then buy elsewhere all awhile staying at the same IB school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Not the poster you're responding to, but I have to wonder if this owner vs. renter thing is at the crux of the issue. More than half of people rent in DC but they don't and shouldn't really be considered part of the "small, cohesive" neighborhoods where they live until they own there.

Is this sarcasm?

I have to think it is, even if it's the exact attitude that kills me here. I am the OP. Again, I am IB for Deal. I could be like the rest of you, laugh, and say, "well, you get the school you afford, y'all! Don't come to mines!"

But I'm not an asshole. As I said, I'm not even sure Deal's the right fit for our kids. I would be more impressed with it if its parent body didn't seem to have so many death-match insane bitches in it.

DC has huge apartment buildings, and people who've lived there for a long time. I don't know the details of your version of rent control, but I know it exists. And, frankly, a bunch of Indiana transplants who came in and bought in Petworth and now think that families who have lived there for generations have less to do with the community than they do, are exactly the kind of people who shouldn't be in charge of a community. Or a school. These are the same people who whine about how "entitled" poor people are, while having conniption fits that someone might have moved to NE or SW and might still want to keep their kids and their community in the area where their parents grew up. Like that is a bad thing? Seriously?

Sis, are you in boundary for some good mental facility?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is Not NYC people. There is not way you can compare. In every other part of the country, you move, you go to new school. Period!

But this is not every other part of the country. This is a small city with HUGE income disparity - tiny pockets of concentrated wealth where people don't use the public schools and exponentially more pockets of concentrated poverty where the public schools couldn't possibly close the achievement gap without a middle class pulling them up.

A middle class is what's creating rising EOTP schools. That's a need that's particular to DC, and we're right on the edge of it changing it for the better. Churn doesn't help that.

I think schools have been rising since before a middle class following took hold. Take Truesdell for example, do you really think there's a strong middle class in the testing grades (third grade and above)? I'm sure that having some makes it easier, but the schools seem to be doing something right with or without.

Truesdell? Really? You are using it as an example? Sigh!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is Not NYC people. There is not way you can compare. In every other part of the country, you move, you go to new school. Period!

But this is not every other part of the country. This is a small city with HUGE income disparity - tiny pockets of concentrated wealth where people don't use the public schools and exponentially more pockets of concentrated poverty where the public schools couldn't possibly close the achievement gap without a middle class pulling them up.

A middle class is what's creating rising EOTP schools. That's a need that's particular to DC, and we're right on the edge of it changing it for the better. Churn doesn't help that.

Actually they DO use the public schools! The reason we have overcrowding issues at all is because rich parents are indeed using the public system, both filling it up with their kids and creating a stronger cohort and thus more desirable schools.

I actually think that the reason we have overcrowding issues in Ward 3 (and Brent) is the prevailing logic that says that when your kids are school age, you buy in Ward 3, or IB for Brent, or you move to the suburbs. To the extent that the attitude of "Ward 3, Brent or nothing" can be changed and people will stop frantically trying to move to AU Park when they have a child, the overcrowding issue will lessen. I don't think that realistically it will ever lessen to the point that there will be ample spaces available for OOB students in Ward 3 (and Brent), but I do think that if families stay where they are, the schools EOTP will improve dramatically and the overcrowded schools will right-size.

Just my $0.03.

lol

[Anonymous]

Because I think renters are part of their community?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

And, frankly, a bunch of Indiana transplants who came in and bought in Petworth and now think that families who have lived there for generations have less to do with the community than they do, are exactly the kind of people who shouldn't be in charge of a community.

It's not even like Petworth is that nice. I remain confused it is as expensive as it is, when there are neighborhoods with better school options that are cheaper and nicer.

+1

[Anonymous]

Op you have to also consider the upstream effect. Let's say your school is a Deal feeder. You now live out of boundary. Do you think your kids should goto Deal or your zoned middle school? The policy you would be breaking causes overcrowding beyond your elementary

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is Not NYC people. There is not way you can compare. In every other part of the country, you move, you go to new school. Period!

But this is not every other part of the country. This is a small city with HUGE income disparity - tiny pockets of concentrated wealth where people don't use the public schools and exponentially more pockets of concentrated poverty where the public schools couldn't possibly close the achievement gap without a middle class pulling them up.

A middle class is what's creating rising EOTP schools. That's a need that's particular to DC, and we're right on the edge of it changing it for the better. Churn doesn't help that.

I think schools have been rising since before a middle class following took hold. Take Truesdell for example, do you really think there's a strong middle class in the testing grades (third grade and above)? I'm sure that having some makes it easier, but the schools seem to be doing something right with or without.

Truesdell? Really? You are using it as an example? Sigh!

Sure. Rising school with no strong middle class in the testing grades AFAIK.

I'd pick another example like Powell or West where scores have risen father, but it's not clear how much of the testing grades are middle class there.

Is there something specific you disagree with?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Not the poster you're responding to, but I have to wonder if this owner vs. renter thing is at the crux of the issue. More than half of people rent in DC but they don't and shouldn't really be considered part of the "small, cohesive" neighborhoods where they live until they own there.

Is this sarcasm?

I have to think it is, even if it's the exact attitude that kills me here. I am the OP. Again, I am IB for Deal. I could be like the rest of you, laugh, and say, "well, you get the school you afford, y'all! Don't come to mines!"

But I'm not an asshole. As I said, I'm not even sure Deal's the right fit for our kids. I would be more impressed with it if its parent body didn't seem to have so many death-match insane bitches in it.

DC has huge apartment buildings, and people who've lived there for a long time. I don't know the details of your version of rent control, but I know it exists. And, frankly, a bunch of Indiana transplants who came in and bought in Petworth and now think that families who have lived there for generations have less to do with the community than they do, are exactly the kind of people who shouldn't be in charge of a community. Or a school. These are the same people who whine about how "entitled" poor people are, while having conniption fits that someone might have moved to NE or SW and might still want to keep their kids and their community in the area where their parents grew up. Like that is a bad thing? Seriously?

I'm the PP and, yes, it's sarcasm.

BUT, I sincerely believe that people who are cheering most for this IB-only policy are people who see only homeowners as true members of their community. If you're renting, you're suspect.

We live in Petworth, spent one year at Powell and like it just fine, and then got zoned out in the re-drawn boundaries. I think it's absolutely ridiculous that the only way we can stay at the school is to maintain our current address. I do think it would be great if some families tried out other schools in the area like Bruce Monroe and Truesdale, and also felt it was worth a longer term investment. But if your family has become a part of school family, thrown your support behind its rising status, given time and money, known its students, faculty and parents on a first-name basis, you should be allowed to enroll for as long as you're paying DC taxes.

[Anonymous]

00:09 here. I should say that we've OWNED our house in Petworth since 2004.

[Anonymous]

We live in Petworth, spent one year at Powell and like it just fine, and then got zoned out in the re-drawn boundaries. I think it's absolutely ridiculous that the only way we can stay at the school is to maintain our current address. I do think it would be great if some families tried out other schools in the area like Bruce Monroe and Truesdale, and also felt it was worth a longer term investment. But if your family has become a part of school family, thrown your support behind its rising status, given time and money, known its students, faculty and parents on a first-name basis, you should be allowed to enroll for as long as you're paying DC taxes.

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

We live in Petworth, spent one year at Powell and like it just fine, and then got zoned out in the re-drawn boundaries. I think it's absolutely ridiculous that the only way we can stay at the school is to maintain our current address. I do think it would be great if some families tried out other schools in the area like Bruce Monroe and Truesdale, and also felt it was worth a longer term investment. But if your family has become a part of school family, thrown your support behind its rising status, given time and money, known its students, faculty and parents on a first-name basis, you should be allowed to enroll for as long as you're paying DC taxes.

Exactly.

Whenever boundaries have been redrawn there has been a phase-in period for family caught in the crease. Did that not happen this time?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What school, OP? Certain schools, like Oyster, are already really strict about this.

Is this correct?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

We live in Petworth, spent one year at Powell and like it just fine, and then got zoned out in the re-drawn boundaries. I think it's absolutely ridiculous that the only way we can stay at the school is to maintain our current address. I do think it would be great if some families tried out other schools in the area like Bruce Monroe and Truesdale, and also felt it was worth a longer term investment. But if your family has become a part of school family, thrown your support behind its rising status, given time and money, known its students, faculty and parents on a first-name basis, you should be allowed to enroll for as long as you're paying DC taxes.

Exactly.

Whenever boundaries have been redrawn there has been a phase-in period for family caught in the crease. Did that not happen this time?

Oh really? When was the last time boundaries were redrawn?

We're allowed to stay as long we're at our current address. If we move to any address outside the school's boundary, we're supposed to lottery as OOB to re-enroll, even if that address is closer to the school than we are now. Seems a ridiculous waste of time to check and make sure addresses match the previous year's, especially for a school trying to build its status.

If Janney and Lafayette are itching to push people out, fine, whatever. But there's not a lot of sense to it EOTP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Not the poster you're responding to, but I have to wonder if this owner vs. renter thing is at the crux of the issue. More than half of people rent in DC but they don't and shouldn't really be considered part of the "small, cohesive" neighborhoods where they live until they own there.

Is this sarcasm?

I have to think it is, even if it's the exact attitude that kills me here. I am the OP. Again, I am IB for Deal. I could be like the rest of you, laugh, and say, "well, you get the school you afford, y'all! Don't come to mines!"

But I'm not an asshole. As I said, I'm not even sure Deal's the right fit for our kids. I would be more impressed with it if its parent body didn't seem to have so many death-match insane bitches in it.

DC has huge apartment buildings, and people who've lived there for a long time. I don't know the details of your version of rent control, but I know it exists. And, frankly, a bunch of Indiana transplants who came in and bought in Petworth and now think that families who have lived there for generations have less to do with the community than they do, are exactly the kind of people who shouldn't be in charge of a community. Or a school. These are the same people who whine about how "entitled" poor people are, while having conniption fits that someone might have moved to NE or SW and might still want to keep their kids and their community in the area where their parents grew up. Like that is a bad thing? Seriously?

I'm the PP and, yes, it's sarcasm.

BUT, I sincerely believe that people who are cheering most for this IB-only policy are people who see only homeowners as true members of their community. If you're renting, you're suspect.

We live in Petworth, spent one year at Powell and like it just fine, and then got zoned out in the re-drawn boundaries. I think it's absolutely ridiculous that the only way we can stay at the school is to maintain our current address. I do think it would be great if some families tried out other schools in the area like Bruce Monroe and Truesdale, and also felt it was worth a longer term investment. But if your family has become a part of school family, thrown your support behind its rising status, given time and money, known its students, faculty and parents on a first-name basis, you should be allowed to enroll for as long as you're paying DC taxes.

And how do you propose that DCPS filter out the people who have "become part of a school family, thrown support behind its rising status, given time and money, and known its students, faculty and parents on a first-name basis" based on their ONE year there from the people who spent ONE year there and then moved away because they are gaming the system and want to have guaranteed feeder rights for all their subsequent children.

Jesus, can you IMAGINE what would happen if they allowed people to do this?