Continue at current school after moving out of boundary?

[Anonymous]

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We live in Petworth, spent one year at Powell and like it just fine, and then got zoned out in the re-drawn boundaries. I think it's absolutely ridiculous that the only way we can stay at the school is to maintain our current address. I do think it would be great if some families tried out other schools in the area like Bruce Monroe and Truesdale, and also felt it was worth a longer term investment. But if your family has become a part of school family, thrown your support behind its rising status, given time and money, known its students, faculty and parents on a first-name basis, you should be allowed to enroll for as long as you're paying DC taxes.

Exactly.

Whenever boundaries have been redrawn there has been a phase-in period for family caught in the crease. Did that not happen this time?

Oh really? When was the last time boundaries were redrawn?

We're allowed to stay as long we're at our current address. If we move to any address outside the school's boundary, we're supposed to lottery as OOB to re-enroll, even if that address is closer to the school than we are now. Seems a ridiculous waste of time to check and make sure addresses match the previous year's, especially for a school trying to build its status.

If Janney and Lafayette are itching to push people out, fine, whatever. But there's not a lot of sense to it EOTP.

Yeah. EOTP we follow a totally lawlessness and screw the rules.

Of course there are reasons to do so OP, you just can't see the Forrest because your tiny baby tree.

[Anonymous]

And how do you propose that DCPS filter out the people who have "become part of a school family, thrown support behind its rising status, given time and money, and known its students, faculty and parents on a first-name basis" based on their ONE year there from the people who spent ONE year there and then moved away because they are gaming the system and want to have guaranteed feeder rights for all their subsequent children.

Jesus, can you IMAGINE what would happen if they allowed people to do this?

I DON'T propose DCPS filter people. Jesus, don't you think the system has bigger issues to address than policing where people choose to live?

If overcrowding is an issue at your school, then it's all the more reason to leave address changes to the principal's discretion. It's not a problem at EOTP schools. Building community, gaining stability and continuity and creating strong cohorts that can create a desirable feeder pattern - these are the issues we're concerned about EOTP. These are the characteristics of quality schools that people are seeking WOTP, so if you're concerned about overcrowding there you should take an interest in making it happen over here.

[Anonymous]

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And how do you propose that DCPS filter out the people who have "become part of a school family, thrown support behind its rising status, given time and money, and known its students, faculty and parents on a first-name basis" based on their ONE year there from the people who spent ONE year there and then moved away because they are gaming the system and want to have guaranteed feeder rights for all their subsequent children.

Jesus, can you IMAGINE what would happen if they allowed people to do this?

I DON'T propose DCPS filter people. Jesus, don't you think the system has bigger issues to address than policing where people choose to live?

If overcrowding is an issue at your school, then it's all the more reason to leave address changes to the principal's discretion. It's not a problem at EOTP schools. Building community, gaining stability and continuity and creating strong cohorts that can create a desirable feeder pattern - these are the issues we're concerned about EOTP. These are the characteristics of quality schools that people are seeking WOTP, so if you're concerned about overcrowding there you should take an interest in making it happen over here.

DCPS is one entity. It's not separated by Parks.

[Anonymous]

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And how do you propose that DCPS filter out the people who have "become part of a school family, thrown support behind its rising status, given time and money, and known its students, faculty and parents on a first-name basis" based on their ONE year there from the people who spent ONE year there and then moved away because they are gaming the system and want to have guaranteed feeder rights for all their subsequent children.

Jesus, can you IMAGINE what would happen if they allowed people to do this?

I DON'T propose DCPS filter people. Jesus, don't you think the system has bigger issues to address than policing where people choose to live?

If overcrowding is an issue at your school, then it's all the more reason to leave address changes to the principal's discretion. It's not a problem at EOTP schools. Building community, gaining stability and continuity and creating strong cohorts that can create a desirable feeder pattern - these are the issues we're concerned about EOTP. These are the characteristics of quality schools that people are seeking WOTP, so if you're concerned about overcrowding there you should take an interest in making it happen over here.

I'm not the PP, but historically, the way that it worked was that it was principal discretion. Theoretically, that would result in principals making exceptions for families who were very committed to staying at their school. I'm not saying that this wouldn't turn into a popularity contest or that it was without flaws, but that would certainly be one way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

We live in Petworth, spent one year at Powell and like it just fine, and then got zoned out in the re-drawn boundaries. I think it's absolutely ridiculous that the only way we can stay at the school is to maintain our current address. I do think it would be great if some families tried out other schools in the area like Bruce Monroe and Truesdale, and also felt it was worth a longer term investment. But if your family has become a part of school family, thrown your support behind its rising status, given time and money, known its students, faculty and parents on a first-name basis, you should be allowed to enroll for as long as you're paying DC taxes.

Exactly.

Whenever boundaries have been redrawn there has been a phase-in period for family caught in the crease. Did that not happen this time?

I don't think anyone with an enrolled child is being kicked out because the boundary was moved past them based on a boundary reassignment. I think this discussion only applies to people who move out of boundary.

[Anonymous]

Okay, well, DCPS is getting rid of principal discretion in favor of clear-cut policies that level the playing field and reduce the opportunity for old-style DC cronyism. Most new residents to DC find this to be a good thing. OP (whose story I can't even get straight - IB at Powell but also zoned for Deal?) would like EOTP schools to continue to allow principals to add and retain children at will based on their ability to be an asset to the school. Got it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Okay, well, DCPS is getting rid of principal discretion in favor of clear-cut policies that level the playing field and reduce the opportunity for old-style DC cronyism. Most new residents to DC find this to be a good thing. OP (whose story I can't even get straight - IB at Powell but also zoned for Deal?) would like EOTP schools to continue to allow principals to add and retain children at will based on their ability to be an asset to the school. Got it.

There are parts of the Powell zone (and West) that are zoned for Deal, including Crestwood and parts of 16th St Heights.

[Anonymous]

To sum up:

OP: I want to move to a bigger house in a cheaper neighborhood and don't want to move schools. Public schools should change their policies to suit my needs!

Everyone else: These policies exist to help schools combat overcrowding. Changing the policy would hurt many schools.

OP: But New York!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Okay, well, DCPS is getting rid of principal discretion in favor of clear-cut policies that level the playing field and reduce the opportunity for old-style DC cronyism. Most new residents to DC find this to be a good thing. OP (whose story I can't even get straight - IB at Powell but also zoned for Deal?) would like EOTP schools to continue to allow principals to add and retain children at will based on their ability to be an asset to the school. Got it.

I was the one above who mentioned the principal discretion. That was in direct response to the PP asking how DCPS would filter people who were part of the school community. That is one way to ascertain that. I generally agree with the idea of a level playing field and a lack of cronyism, but I also don't think it is necessarily a great idea to remove ALL principal discretion in favor of a blanket rule. I love the school that we are in right now, but we rent. We are already attending OOB, so it doesn't matter for me personally, but if that was not the case and we were IB and wanted to buy a home, we would either need to find a house to buy within the school's catchment area or switch to a new school. I'm not saying it's not "fair." It just would suck to uproot a kid from somewhere they were thriving.

[Anonymous]

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And how do you propose that DCPS filter out the people who have "become part of a school family, thrown support behind its rising status, given time and money, and known its students, faculty and parents on a first-name basis" based on their ONE year there from the people who spent ONE year there and then moved away because they are gaming the system and want to have guaranteed feeder rights for all their subsequent children.

Jesus, can you IMAGINE what would happen if they allowed people to do this?

I DON'T propose DCPS filter people. Jesus, don't you think the system has bigger issues to address than policing where people choose to live?

If overcrowding is an issue at your school, then it's all the more reason to leave address changes to the principal's discretion. It's not a problem at EOTP schools. Building community, gaining stability and continuity and creating strong cohorts that can create a desirable feeder pattern - these are the issues we're concerned about EOTP. These are the characteristics of quality schools that people are seeking WOTP, so if you're concerned about overcrowding there you should take an interest in making it happen over here.

OP or whoever this is, stop trying to speak for all of EOTP. We are at one of the schools you mentioned upthread, we have IB families on the waitlist for Pk, and if you move, you give up your IB spot. In your case you are grandfathered for Powell. I don't know why you're complaining so much. The rule is fair.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And how do you propose that DCPS filter out the people who have "become part of a school family, thrown support behind its rising status, given time and money, and known its students, faculty and parents on a first-name basis" based on their ONE year there from the people who spent ONE year there and then moved away because they are gaming the system and want to have guaranteed feeder rights for all their subsequent children.

Jesus, can you IMAGINE what would happen if they allowed people to do this?

I DON'T propose DCPS filter people. Jesus, don't you think the system has bigger issues to address than policing where people choose to live?

If overcrowding is an issue at your school, then it's all the more reason to leave address changes to the principal's discretion. It's not a problem at EOTP schools. Building community, gaining stability and continuity and creating strong cohorts that can create a desirable feeder pattern - these are the issues we're concerned about EOTP. These are the characteristics of quality schools that people are seeking WOTP, so if you're concerned about overcrowding there you should take an interest in making it happen over here.

OP or whoever this is, stop trying to speak for all of EOTP. We are at one of the schools you mentioned upthread, we have IB families on the waitlist for Pk, and if you move, you give up your IB spot. In your case you are grandfathered for Powell. I don't know why you're complaining so much. The rule is fair.

Huh? What EOTP school has an IB waitlist??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And how do you propose that DCPS filter out the people who have "become part of a school family, thrown support behind its rising status, given time and money, and known its students, faculty and parents on a first-name basis" based on their ONE year there from the people who spent ONE year there and then moved away because they are gaming the system and want to have guaranteed feeder rights for all their subsequent children.

Jesus, can you IMAGINE what would happen if they allowed people to do this?

I DON'T propose DCPS filter people. Jesus, don't you think the system has bigger issues to address than policing where people choose to live?

If overcrowding is an issue at your school, then it's all the more reason to leave address changes to the principal's discretion. It's not a problem at EOTP schools. Building community, gaining stability and continuity and creating strong cohorts that can create a desirable feeder pattern - these are the issues we're concerned about EOTP. These are the characteristics of quality schools that people are seeking WOTP, so if you're concerned about overcrowding there you should take an interest in making it happen over here.

OP or whoever this is, stop trying to speak for all of EOTP. We are at one of the schools you mentioned upthread, we have IB families on the waitlist for Pk, and if you move, you give up your IB spot. In your case you are grandfathered for Powell. I don't know why you're complaining so much. The rule is fair.

Huh? What EOTP school has an IB waitlist??

Brent, Peabody, Ross

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And how do you propose that DCPS filter out the people who have "become part of a school family, thrown support behind its rising status, given time and money, and known its students, faculty and parents on a first-name basis" based on their ONE year there from the people who spent ONE year there and then moved away because they are gaming the system and want to have guaranteed feeder rights for all their subsequent children.

Jesus, can you IMAGINE what would happen if they allowed people to do this?

I DON'T propose DCPS filter people. Jesus, don't you think the system has bigger issues to address than policing where people choose to live?

If overcrowding is an issue at your school, then it's all the more reason to leave address changes to the principal's discretion. It's not a problem at EOTP schools. Building community, gaining stability and continuity and creating strong cohorts that can create a desirable feeder pattern - these are the issues we're concerned about EOTP. These are the characteristics of quality schools that people are seeking WOTP, so if you're concerned about overcrowding there you should take an interest in making it happen over here.

OP or whoever this is, stop trying to speak for all of EOTP. We are at one of the schools you mentioned upthread, we have IB families on the waitlist for Pk, and if you move, you give up your IB spot. In your case you are grandfathered for Powell. I don't know why you're complaining so much. The rule is fair.

Huh? What EOTP school has an IB waitlist??

We are at Cooke and we had an IB waitlist for most of the summer for PK3. I would imagine that Powell was in a similar situation. Last year we got into Cooke for PK4 but were waitlisted for Tubman, which is our IB school. We did eventually get called, but not until right before school started when we were already settled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To sum up:

OP: I want to move to a bigger house in a cheaper neighborhood and don't want to move schools. Public schools should change their policies to suit my needs!

Everyone else: These policies exist to help schools combat overcrowding. Changing the policy would hurt many schools.

OP: But New York!

Yep. This is essentially what is being said over and over...it's ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Huh? What EOTP school has an IB waitlist??


We are at Cooke and we had an IB waitlist for most of the summer for PK3. I would imagine that Powell was in a similar situation. Last year we got into Cooke for PK4 but were waitlisted for Tubman, which is our IB school. We did eventually get called, but not until right before school started when we were already settled.

Same for Cleveland, Bancroft.