PSA: For all the confused men out there

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Anonymous wrote:I tend to think that the guy who doesn't give a crap about what women want is the most successful with them.

You go ahead and see how well that works for you. I always see perpetually single, desperate losers saying this. "That gorgeous stud has all the girls hanging off him because he doesn't care." Um, that's one explanation; how about an intelligent one this time?

It is as if they lack the reasoning skills to learn from experience. Their schemes are clearly not working if they are single year after year and getting passed over again and again by the women they want.

NP here. Funny, but when I read that response I was thinking about a guy that doesn't try to engineer himself to be as desirable as possible rather than one who actively tries to be himself. Basically someone comfortable in their own skin. Just shows everyone's mileage can vary on these things.

"Doesn't give a crap about what women want" =/= "comfortable in their own skin." Is English your second language?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I tend to think that the guy who doesn't give a crap about what women want is the most successful with them.

You go ahead and see how well that works for you. I always see perpetually single, desperate losers saying this. "That gorgeous stud has all the girls hanging off him because he doesn't care." Um, that's one explanation; how about an intelligent one this time?

It is as if they lack the reasoning skills to learn from experience. Their schemes are clearly not working if they are single year after year and getting passed over again and again by the women they want.

NP here. Funny, but when I read that response I was thinking about a guy that doesn't try to engineer himself to be as desirable as possible rather than one who actively tries to be himself. Basically someone comfortable in their own skin. Just shows everyone's mileage can vary on these things.

"Doesn't give a crap about what women want" =/= "comfortable in their own skin." Is English your second language?

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[Anonymous]

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And yet, overweight and obese men are complaining that women don't find them attractive because they're not "bad boys" which is MRA code for "conventionally attractive" which is commonly understood to mean "not overweight or obese." And yet if you suggest that they're disgusting, they say, "How come you just like bad boys who treat you badly and blow off the good guys because they're overweight?"

I'm slightly underweight. In my experience impolite, overweight guys were more likely to have girls on their arm than polite, underweight guys. So, I think there's more variables involved than what you say. But, yes, girls are most attracted to guys who are neither over nor under weight and who are confident, but mostly well behaved.

Be honest with yourself. There is slim and then there is weak-looking, gangly, concave-chested skinny. Plus, I doubt thinness is all that is going on if you are having dating woes. Like the OP said, what does your face look like? Your hair, style of dressing, and personality? Stop playing the victim and live in the real world. Your options are as good as your looks. Don't think you can punch above your weight because you are a man.

I'm the original PP who called out the body shaming hypocrisy.

My overall point was that it is hypocritical to complain about not being recognized for being attractive when you say things like "Obese women are disgusting." This is one of the reasons, if not the main reason, that I have very little sympathy for men who complain about how women don't want to be in relationships with them: they are faulting women for being picky (and possibly shallow, choosing on looks alone) when they are doing the exact same thing.

Agreed, there are plenty of women who most men could date. The problem is, they try to date women well outside their "league". Then, they complain that "ALL" women are bitches/picky/shallow. As if they aren't doing the same thing...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think OP is half right. A really good looking guy does not need to be "bad" or mean or a jerk. In fact, this would probably hurt him with quality women. But most men are not Tom Brady, or even studly former-laxer investment bankers.

Most guys are average to ugly, and these guys need to get a girl's attention somehow to have a shot. Maybe it's buying a motorcycle, learning to snowboard, or mountain climbing. Maybe it's just being much more confident than people would expect, based on your looks. Or, of course, maybe it's cash.

Mediocre looking men are helped by borderline jerky behavior...or at least cocky. Think Elaine being mildly interested in why Newman was so confident on Seinfeld.

"Maybe there's more to Newman than meets the eye."

Jerry: "no, there's less."

To fuck her brains out you have to first get her thinking about you. And for 80% of guys, looks alone won't work.

Thank goodness since he is a jerk.

[Anonymous]

Okay, so to be fair, I do have two cats...

I have met some great guys online that are not terribly attractive. They are fantastic fathers, successful in their careers, great guys, intelligent, funny, and good (some great) lovers. They are gems -- seriously great partner material.

I have also met some really attractive guys that are great in bed, but boring as hell. They lose their luster very quickly.

But, even knowing all of this -- it is hard to go out with the really unattractive guys. I don't think of myself as shallow at all. I am attractive, but not a standout.

OP has a point. Women aren't all that picky. Take care of yourself a little. Wear clothes that flatter you no matter what shape you are in. Find some hobbies or interests to discuss other than sports and your job.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I tend to think that the guy who doesn't give a crap about what women want is the most successful with them.

This is true.

The women most obsessed with a man's looks tend to be mediocre. They can get a stud to dump a load in them but rarely to commit to them. They shun similarly mediocre looking men as they drink and fuck their way through their 30s. They meet many of these men online, where they subtract a few years from their ages. At 40, these women either marry the mediocre beta they should have married ten years ago, or they give up, buy two cats and go on antidepressant drugs.

Enjoy dumping into your hand, loser.

So are you saying sexual success == being successful at life?

[Anonymous]

You can buy love if you are man

[Anonymous]

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So are you saying sexual success == being successful at life?

As a man, yes.

[Anonymous]

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So are you saying sexual success == being successful at life?

As a man, yes.

So I should go out and have eight kids with five women then?

[Anonymous]

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So are you saying sexual success == being successful at life?

As a man, yes.

Hahaha so pathetic.

I guess I am an unqualified success then. I am a female who can bang whoever she wants and has an extensive sexual history.

Winning!!!

[Anonymous]

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"Doesn't give a crap about what women want" =/= "comfortable in their own skin." Is English your second language?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I tend to think that the guy who doesn't give a crap about what women want is the most successful with them.

This is true.

The women most obsessed with a man's looks tend to be mediocre. They can get a stud to dump a load in them but rarely to commit to them. They shun similarly mediocre looking men as they drink and fuck their way through their 30s. They meet many of these men online, where they subtract a few years from their ages. At 40, these women either marry the mediocre beta they should have married ten years ago, or they give up, buy two cats and go on antidepressant drugs.

Bahaha. Maybe if you say it enough times, it will come true.

And maybe women will start feeling ashamed of having a preference for good looks and you can finally get some action!



Keep dreaming, loser.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is one of the reasons, if not the main reason, that I have very little sympathy for men who complain about how women don't want to be in relationships with them: they are faulting women for being picky (and possibly shallow, choosing on looks alone) when they are doing the exact same thing.

Men have an excuse because WE'RE the ones who take the initiative to ask women out and, in the process, risk rejection every time. These lazy skanks turning down perfectly good suitors have no excuse because they have plenty of opportunities to accept dates with decent guys.

Start stepping up to the plate or stop your god damn whining.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is one of the reasons, if not the main reason, that I have very little sympathy for men who complain about how women don't want to be in relationships with them: they are faulting women for being picky (and possibly shallow, choosing on looks alone) when they are doing the exact same thing.

Men have an excuse because WE'RE the ones who take the initiative to ask women out and, in the process, risk rejection every time. These lazy skanks turning down perfectly good suitors have no excuse because they have plenty of opportunities to accept dates with decent guys.

Start stepping up to the plate or stop your god damn whining.

You do that because you have to.

Women have their pick of the litter.

Get over it.

You sound like a pathetic little reject.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I tend to think that the guy who doesn't give a crap about what women want is the most successful with them.

You go ahead and see how well that works for you. I always see perpetually single, desperate losers saying this. "That gorgeous stud has all the girls hanging off him because he doesn't care." Um, that's one explanation; how about an intelligent one this time?

It is as if they lack the reasoning skills to learn from experience. Their schemes are clearly not working if they are single year after year and getting passed over again and again by the women they want.

This is why you don't ask women for dating advice. Know why the guy who cares the least gets hot women? Because women are addicted to attention. It is your biological crack. When guys couldn't care less about what you think, you CRAVE their attention and you go crazy over it.

Sure, after a certain period of time, you wake up and realize you don't like being treated like shit. But in the mean time, and in the short term, you crave the attention and you will do anything to get it.

Plus guys who care too much get dumped.