PSA: For all the confused men out there

[Anonymous]

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And yet, overweight and obese men are complaining that women don't find them attractive because they're not "bad boys" which is MRA code for "conventionally attractive" which is commonly understood to mean "not overweight or obese." And yet if you suggest that they're disgusting, they say, "How come you just like bad boys who treat you badly and blow off the good guys because they're overweight?"

I'm slightly underweight. In my experience impolite, overweight guys were more likely to have girls on their arm than polite, underweight guys. So, I think there's more variables involved than what you say. But, yes, girls are most attracted to guys who are neither over nor under weight and who are confident, but mostly well behaved.

Be honest with yourself. There is slim and then there is weak-looking, gangly, concave-chested skinny. Plus, I doubt thinness is all that is going on if you are having dating woes. Like the OP said, what does your face look like? Your hair, style of dressing, and personality? Stop playing the victim and live in the real world. Your options are as good as your looks. Don't think you can punch above your weight because you are a man.

I'm the original PP who called out the body shaming hypocrisy.

My overall point was that it is hypocritical to complain about not being recognized for being attractive when you say things like "Obese women are disgusting." This is one of the reasons, if not the main reason, that I have very little sympathy for men who complain about how women don't want to be in relationships with them: they are faulting women for being picky (and possibly shallow, choosing on looks alone) when they are doing the exact same thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And yet, overweight and obese men are complaining that women don't find them attractive because they're not "bad boys" which is MRA code for "conventionally attractive" which is commonly understood to mean "not overweight or obese." And yet if you suggest that they're disgusting, they say, "How come you just like bad boys who treat you badly and blow off the good guys because they're overweight?"

I'm slightly underweight. In my experience impolite, overweight guys were more likely to have girls on their arm than polite, underweight guys. So, I think there's more variables involved than what you say. But, yes, girls are most attracted to guys who are neither over nor under weight and who are confident, but mostly well behaved.

Be honest with yourself. There is slim and then there is weak-looking, gangly, concave-chested skinny. Plus, I doubt thinness is all that is going on if you are having dating woes. Like the OP said, what does your face look like? Your hair, style of dressing, and personality? Stop playing the victim and live in the real world. Your options are as good as your looks. Don't think you can punch above your weight because you are a man.

I'm the original PP who called out the body shaming hypocrisy.

My overall point was that it is hypocritical to complain about not being recognized for being attractive when you say things like "Obese women are disgusting." This is one of the reasons, if not the main reason, that I have very little sympathy for men who complain about how women don't want to be in relationships with them: they are faulting women for being picky (and possibly shallow, choosing on looks alone) when they are doing the exact same thing.

PP here I agree with you. I was not commenting on what you said. I was commenting on the guy acting confused that women aren't going crazy over skinny men.

[Anonymous]

There's also such a thing as being too nice / too available early on and I'm guessing that's where some of the confusion lies.

Also, in my experience, that which was desirable in high school isn't the same thing that was desirable in college. I met my wife in college so I can't speak to whether that changes afterwards.

[Anonymous]

I tend to think that the guy who doesn't give a crap about what women want is the most successful with them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I tend to think that the guy who doesn't give a crap about what women want is the most successful with them.

and we finally have a winner!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I tend to think that the guy who doesn't give a crap about what women want is the most successful with them.

This is true.

The women most obsessed with a man's looks tend to be mediocre. They can get a stud to dump a load in them but rarely to commit to them. They shun similarly mediocre looking men as they drink and fuck their way through their 30s. They meet many of these men online, where they subtract a few years from their ages. At 40, these women either marry the mediocre beta they should have married ten years ago, or they give up, buy two cats and go on antidepressant drugs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I tend to think that the guy who doesn't give a crap about what women want is the most successful with them.

This is true.

The women most obsessed with a man's looks tend to be mediocre. They can get a stud to dump a load in them but rarely to commit to them. They shun similarly mediocre looking men as they drink and fuck their way through their 30s. They meet many of these men online, where they subtract a few years from their ages. At 40, these women either marry the mediocre beta they should have married ten years ago, or they give up, buy two cats and go on antidepressant drugs.

lol keep telling yourself that mra chump

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I tend to think that the guy who doesn't give a crap about what women want is the most successful with them.

This is true.

The women most obsessed with a man's looks tend to be mediocre. They can get a stud to dump a load in them but rarely to commit to them. They shun similarly mediocre looking men as they drink and fuck their way through their 30s. They meet many of these men online, where they subtract a few years from their ages. At 40, these women either marry the mediocre beta they should have married ten years ago, or they give up, buy two cats and go on antidepressant drugs.

I cannot imagine that someone with this attitude about women has much romantic success. Does your mother know how little you think of women in general?

[Anonymous]

If all this is true, then how come whenever you read about one of these men who cons multiple women out of their savings, it is never some model type but a schlub?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I tend to think that the guy who doesn't give a crap about what women want is the most successful with them.

You go ahead and see how well that works for you. I always see perpetually single, desperate losers saying this. "That gorgeous stud has all the girls hanging off him because he doesn't care." Um, that's one explanation; how about an intelligent one this time?

It is as if they lack the reasoning skills to learn from experience. Their schemes are clearly not working if they are single year after year and getting passed over again and again by the women they want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I tend to think that the guy who doesn't give a crap about what women want is the most successful with them.

The opposite is true also. I am the ONLY woman who didn't chase DH. It was irrational, but even he acknowledges that he refused women who seemed too eager or chased him. And a lot of these were nice, kind women who were hotter than I am.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If all this is true, then how come whenever you read about one of these men who cons multiple women out of their savings, it is never some model type but a schlub?

Eh, I'd take a closer look at the women that are being conned out of their money. Scam artists run a numbers game where if 1 out of 100 bites they get a big score. So, that 1 out of 100 person probably has some issues that make them vulnerable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If all this is true, then how come whenever you read about one of these men who cons multiple women out of their savings, it is never some model type but a schlub?[/quote

Dumb ass, who are the shlubs conning? Speaking as a former prosecutor, ugly con artists victimize unattractive, lonely women. That is who is at their level. The exception is where the ugly con artist poses as wealthy and was spending lavishly. Actually, even then, such men usually con older, unattractive, isolated heiresses, widows, and divorcees and the con artist is always charming and doting, with impeccable taste. This world in which ugly losers with nothing to offer are just getting all the hot women is in your head. Al Bundy is not conning Naomi Campbell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I tend to think that the guy who doesn't give a crap about what women want is the most successful with them.

You go ahead and see how well that works for you. I always see perpetually single, desperate losers saying this. "That gorgeous stud has all the girls hanging off him because he doesn't care." Um, that's one explanation; how about an intelligent one this time?

It is as if they lack the reasoning skills to learn from experience. Their schemes are clearly not working if they are single year after year and getting passed over again and again by the women they want.

NP here. Funny, but when I read that response I was thinking about a guy that doesn't try to engineer himself to be as desirable as possible rather than one who actively tries to be himself. Basically someone comfortable in their own skin. Just shows everyone's mileage can vary on these things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I tend to think that the guy who doesn't give a crap about what women want is the most successful with them.

This is true.

The women most obsessed with a man's looks tend to be mediocre. They can get a stud to dump a load in them but rarely to commit to them. They shun similarly mediocre looking men as they drink and fuck their way through their 30s. They meet many of these men online, where they subtract a few years from their ages. At 40, these women either marry the mediocre beta they should have married ten years ago, or they give up, buy two cats and go on antidepressant drugs.

Enjoy dumping into your hand, loser.