So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy 2015-2016?

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Anonymous wrote:We are at Mann (more than one year to go before MS). Leaning towards Hardy, hoping it continues to improve. Uniforms will have no impact on our decision.

We are IB for Deal. Hoping to have an opportunity to attend Hardy OOB. Uniforms have no impact on our decision either.

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Anonymous wrote:So, the only ones who care about the uniforms remaining at Hardy are "concerned onlookers" on this board who for some reason care about preserving the "unique culture" of Hardy. Are they Alums? Why do they care?

IB Hardy family with 4 kids. I have visited Hardy and talked to existing students, administration, teachers, and existing parents (I wonder how many parents commenting on this board have actually taken those steps. Most of what I see on this board is not a reflection of what I have actually seen on my own). I have been very impressed and look forward to sending my children to Hardy. I could care less about uniforms. I care about the quality of education and experience for my children.

Right, and your view is considered and logical. But you already plan to send your kids to Hardy. Hardy's challenge is to address those issues that keep the overwhelming majority of its IB families from considering enrolling their kids there in the first place. Why not easily take one of those issues off the table?

Because improving academics attracts IB families, while also benefiting the OOB families, and is impossible to argue against. Dropping uniforms, when most families with kids their like them, would be seen as overly preferring the needs of IB families who do not even attend the school over OOB families who do. With both the "real IB" and feeder numbers creeping upwards (and with an expectation they will converge as feeder schools increase their IB percentage) there is no gain to DCPS in making the change, and there is the cost of pissing some OOB families off. The goal of DCPS is to change Hardy - it is NOT to change Hardy overnight. Some IB families do not like that. But that will not change the incentives DCPS faces.

The problem with patience is that our kids are only young once. For a parent whose kids are going into middle school this year there is no next year.

But DCPS will be here forever. If it takes five years to turn Hardy, and they can do so with minimal hard feelings, vs turning it in a year, with huge hard feelings, they will pick the former. Sorry it doesn't help you, but then again if you live IB for Hardy, you have far more choices (including being able to buy into a top notch suburban zone) that 90% of DC families do not have.

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Anonymous wrote:We are at Mann (more than one year to go before MS). Leaning towards Hardy, hoping it continues to improve. Uniforms will have no impact on our decision.

We are IB for Deal. Hoping to have an opportunity to attend Hardy OOB. Uniforms have no impact on our decision either.

You should put something on Craig's list. I'm sure that there's a Hardy IB family that would willingly switch with you.

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Anonymous wrote:So, the only ones who care about the uniforms remaining at Hardy are "concerned onlookers" on this board who for some reason care about preserving the "unique culture" of Hardy. Are they Alums? Why do they care?

IB Hardy family with 4 kids. I have visited Hardy and talked to existing students, administration, teachers, and existing parents (I wonder how many parents commenting on this board have actually taken those steps. Most of what I see on this board is not a reflection of what I have actually seen on my own). I have been very impressed and look forward to sending my children to Hardy. I could care less about uniforms. I care about the quality of education and experience for my children.

Right, and your view is considered and logical. But you already plan to send your kids to Hardy. Hardy's challenge is to address those issues that keep the overwhelming majority of its IB families from considering enrolling their kids there in the first place. Why not easily take one of those issues off the table?

Because improving academics attracts IB families, while also benefiting the OOB families, and is impossible to argue against. Dropping uniforms, when most families with kids their like them, would be seen as overly preferring the needs of IB families who do not even attend the school over OOB families who do. With both the "real IB" and feeder numbers creeping upwards (and with an expectation they will converge as feeder schools increase their IB percentage) there is no gain to DCPS in making the change, and there is the cost of pissing some OOB families off. The goal of DCPS is to change Hardy - it is NOT to change Hardy overnight. Some IB families do not like that. But that will not change the incentives DCPS faces.

DCPS' long term strategy may be both to increase IB substantially yet maintain Hardy's distinct role as a decent city-wide middle school alternative for underserved parts of DC. How? Hardy is significantly under-enrolled, according to the capacity figures on the DME website. DCPS may be trying to improve Hardy's academics, while keeping the school small size as a selling point, in order to attract more IB students. Once that IB pipeline really starts to flow and more IB families feel comfortable with Hardy, nothing prevents DCPS from quickly ramping up the size of the school to accommodate more OOB students, thus continuing Hardy's traditional mission in DC and preserving much of its culture. There's capacity to do both.

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Anonymous wrote:We are at Mann (more than one year to go before MS). Leaning towards Hardy, hoping it continues to improve. Uniforms will have no impact on our decision.

We are IB for Deal. Hoping to have an opportunity to attend Hardy OOB. Uniforms have no impact on our decision either.

You should put something on Craig's list. I'm sure that there's a Hardy IB family that would willingly switch with you.

I'm sure this was sarcastic but this is not possible unless they trade residences.

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Anonymous wrote:We are at Mann (more than one year to go before MS). Leaning towards Hardy, hoping it continues to improve. Uniforms will have no impact on our decision.

Same here and we're a Stoodert family.

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Anonymous wrote:In boundary parents care about one number, the IB number which they view as an indication that their neighbors and peers are voting with their feet, manifesting increased confidence in Hardy. They don't care about the feeder number, which is inflated by OOB students who would probably choose to attend Hardy anyway because it likely is a better alternative than the school they would otherwise have been assigned to.

In the lower grades, as a previous poster noted, these schools are now mostly IB, so the feeder number and the IB number are probably converging.

Detail please. It would be very interesting to know the IB percentages in the lower grades at Stoddert and especially Hyde/Addison.

Just look at the lottery results for prek for the last two years at these schools. No one got in OOB, and prek is your best shot statistically.

Huh???!!! If zero percent OOB were admitted then how can zero be a better percentage chance and any other number that can't be less than zero?

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Anonymous wrote:We are at Mann (more than one year to go before MS). Leaning towards Hardy, hoping it continues to improve. Uniforms will have no impact on our decision.

We are IB for Deal. Hoping to have an opportunity to attend Hardy OOB. Uniforms have no impact on our decision either.

You should put something on Craig's list. I'm sure that there's a Hardy IB family that would willingly switch with you.

I'm sure this was sarcastic but this is not possible unless they trade residences.

The hard reality is that for every family that wanted to switch from Deal to Hardy, there are about 50 families who would readily trade Hardy IB rights for Deal. John Eaton kids for several year were offered the choice of Deal and Hardy for middle school and during that period reportedly only one student chose the latter. So this year, DCPS decided to take the choice away.

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For what it is worth, the families at Hardy have not been asked about uniforms in years. My guess is that they would not care.

I repeat: they have not been asked. So please stop stating or implying that the current Hardy parents are opposed to getting rid of the uniforms because they want to preserve a culture that excludes you and your family. They really don't care that much about the uniforms. I know because I am a former Hardy parent. Hardy parents want the school to be strong academically and to be a great place for their kids to learn. And they are happy to have you be a part of it.

So if you want to get rid of the uniforms, go talk to Principal Pride. Come to a PTO meeting and raise the issue. Make your concerns public instead of on this anonymous message board. But don't pretend that you are a brave hero fighting against Hardy parents that don't want you.




Concluding that Hardy parents are somehow conspiring to keep you

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Anonymous wrote:We are at Mann (more than one year to go before MS). Leaning towards Hardy, hoping it continues to improve. Uniforms will have no impact on our decision.

We are IB for Deal. Hoping to have an opportunity to attend Hardy OOB. Uniforms have no impact on our decision either.

You should put something on Craig's list. I'm sure that there's a Hardy IB family that would willingly switch with you.

I'm sure this was sarcastic but this is not possible unless they trade residences.

The hard reality is that for every family that wanted to switch from Deal to Hardy, there are about 50 families who would readily trade Hardy IB rights for Deal. John Eaton kids for several year were offered the choice of Deal and Hardy for middle school and during that period reportedly only one student chose the latter. So this year, DCPS decided to take the choice away.

PP being quoted (IB for Deal). I agree and I know we're an anomaly. However, I see the stats now (white performance comparisons at both schools etc) and I also see the trend at Hardy. My DC is 3 years away from middle and I can imagine the growth that Hardy is going to experience, especially under new leadership. I think my kid (AA fwiw) will thrive in a smaller environment like Hardy. Who knows maybe he'll change and do just fine at Deal. Maybe we'll decide Deal will be better to equip him for the larger environment at Wilson.

[Anonymous]

For what it is worth, the families at Hardy have not been asked about uniforms in years. My guess is that they would not care.

I repeat: they have not been asked. So please stop stating or implying that the current Hardy parents are opposed to getting rid of the uniforms because they want to preserve a culture that excludes you and your family. They really don't care that much about the uniforms. I know because I am a former Hardy parent. Hardy parents want the school to be strong academically and to be a great place for their kids to learn. And they are happy to have you be a part of it.

So if you want to get rid of the uniforms, go talk to Principal Pride. Come to a PTO meeting and raise the issue. Make your concerns public instead of on this anonymous message board. But don't pretend that you are a brave hero fighting against Hardy parents that don't want you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For what it is worth, the families at Hardy have not been asked about uniforms in years. My guess is that they would not care.

I repeat: they have not been asked. So please stop stating or implying that the current Hardy parents are opposed to getting rid of the uniforms because they want to preserve a culture that excludes you and your family. They really don't care that much about the uniforms. I know because I am a former Hardy parent. Hardy parents want the school to be strong academically and to be a great place for their kids to learn. And they are happy to have you be a part of it.

So if you want to get rid of the uniforms, go talk to Principal Pride. Come to a PTO meeting and raise the issue. Make your concerns public instead of on this anonymous message board. But don't pretend that you are a brave hero fighting against Hardy parents that don't want you.




Concluding that Hardy parents are somehow conspiring to keep you

It seems that the time is ripe for Principal Dr. Pride to make the change. The Eighties want their uniforms back.

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Anonymous wrote:We are at Mann (more than one year to go before MS). Leaning towards Hardy, hoping it continues to improve. Uniforms will have no impact on our decision.

We are IB for Deal. Hoping to have an opportunity to attend Hardy OOB. Uniforms have no impact on our decision either.

You should put something on Craig's list. I'm sure that there's a Hardy IB family that would willingly switch with you.

I'm sure this was sarcastic but this is not possible unless they trade residences.

The hard reality is that for every family that wanted to switch from Deal to Hardy, there are about 50 families who would readily trade Hardy IB rights for Deal. John Eaton kids for several year were offered the choice of Deal and Hardy for middle school and during that period reportedly only one student chose the latter. So this year, DCPS decided to take the choice away.

PP being quoted (IB for Deal). I agree and I know we're an anomaly. However, I see the stats now (white performance comparisons at both schools etc) and I also see the trend at Hardy. My DC is 3 years away from middle and I can imagine the growth that Hardy is going to experience, especially under new leadership. I think my kid (AA fwiw) will thrive in a smaller environment like Hardy. Who knows maybe he'll change and do just fine at Deal. Maybe we'll decide Deal will be better to equip him for the larger environment at Wilson.

I love 3rd grade parents talking about middle school. Almost as fun as the prek3 parents talking about 3rd grade.

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Anonymous wrote:For what it is worth, the families at Hardy have not been asked about uniforms in years. My guess is that they would not care.

I repeat: they have not been asked. So please stop stating or implying that the current Hardy parents are opposed to getting rid of the uniforms because they want to preserve a culture that excludes you and your family. They really don't care that much about the uniforms. I know because I am a former Hardy parent. Hardy parents want the school to be strong academically and to be a great place for their kids to learn. And they are happy to have you be a part of it.

So if you want to get rid of the uniforms, go talk to Principal Pride. Come to a PTO meeting and raise the issue. Make your concerns public instead of on this anonymous message board. But don't pretend that you are a brave hero fighting against Hardy parents that don't want you.




Concluding that Hardy parents are somehow conspiring to keep you

It seems that the time is ripe for Principal Dr. Pride to make the change. The Eighties want their uniforms back.

Can you not read? You are wasting your time posting anonymously here. You want this change? Go talk to Principal Pride in person. Go to a PTO meeting and ask. But don't just complain anonymously on this board and then wonder why you are not seeing a change.

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Anonymous wrote:We are at Mann (more than one year to go before MS). Leaning towards Hardy, hoping it continues to improve. Uniforms will have no impact on our decision.

We are IB for Deal. Hoping to have an opportunity to attend Hardy OOB. Uniforms have no impact on our decision either.

You should put something on Craig's list. I'm sure that there's a Hardy IB family that would willingly switch with you.

I'm sure this was sarcastic but this is not possible unless they trade residences.

The hard reality is that for every family that wanted to switch from Deal to Hardy, there are about 50 families who would readily trade Hardy IB rights for Deal. John Eaton kids for several year were offered the choice of Deal and Hardy for middle school and during that period reportedly only one student chose the latter. So this year, DCPS decided to take the choice away.

PP being quoted (IB for Deal). I agree and I know we're an anomaly. However, I see the stats now (white performance comparisons at both schools etc) and I also see the trend at Hardy. My DC is 3 years away from middle and I can imagine the growth that Hardy is going to experience, especially under new leadership. I think my kid (AA fwiw) will thrive in a smaller environment like Hardy. Who knows maybe he'll change and do just fine at Deal. Maybe we'll decide Deal will be better to equip him for the larger environment at Wilson.

I love 3rd grade parents talking about middle school. Almost as fun as the prek3 parents talking about 3rd grade.

Actually, it's more like a 6th grade parent thinking about what high school their kid will be going to. So you've never considered high school for your 6th grader? Poor kid. You are an ass.