Rudy Giuliani going "rogue".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents — #43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. That’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic.

Pretty clear.

Anonymous wrote:

If he was referring to Bush, he would have said "He's irresponsible. He's unpatriotic."

He is referring to the act.

Pretty clear.

Spin, spin, spin........you can spin all day if you like. It won't change.

Neanderthal brains cannot process nuance.

By calling the act irresponsible, that does not say that the sum of the acts of a man are unpatriotic.

Calling someone unpatriotic says that the sum of a man is unpatriotic.

The President said the former, not the latter which right wingers are unwilling and too filled with hate to understand.

For being the great communicator that he is touted to be, he kind of f’ed up on this one.
Whatever he said, it was a slam to the president (GWB). And, he was a CANDIDATE for the presidency when he said it.
Giuliani is not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents — #43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. That’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic.

Pretty clear.

Anonymous wrote:

If he was referring to Bush, he would have said "He's irresponsible. He's unpatriotic."

He is referring to the act.

Pretty clear.

Spin, spin, spin........you can spin all day if you like. It won't change.

Neanderthal brains cannot process nuance.

By calling the act irresponsible, that does not say that the sum of the acts of a man are unpatriotic.

Calling someone unpatriotic says that the sum of a man is unpatriotic.

The President said the former, not the latter which right wingers are unwilling and too filled with hate to understand.

For being the great communicator that he is touted to be, he kind of f’ed up on this one.
Whatever he said, it was a slam to the president (GWB). And, he was a CANDIDATE for the presidency when he said it.
Giuliani is not.

For all your fecklessness you do understand what the President said when he was running for the WH.

This is a free country where free people can and do criticize the President. Republican candidates criticize the President all the time.

But i see no evidence that the President called the former President Bush unpatriotic.

I am sure that you will carry on making your inane hateful comments.

Carry on, haters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So people who spent their childhood abroad cannot be like us? They do not lime the US? What about Foreign Service kids? Army brats? Not patriotic enough for some?

From my experiences, family and friends who spent summers in another country (the home country of a parent), for example, are the most critical of the US.

Does criticizing the country make them unpatriotic?

[Anonymous]

I like Giuliani. He brought down NY crime and weathered 9/11. He's good enough for me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I like Giuliani. He brought down NY crime and weathered 9/11. He's good enough for me.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you go places and publicly criticize your family? Tell me which other president has gone to other countries and criticized the US.

If America is now Obama's "family," then we are still "a nation of cowards" as Obama's AG called us (and Obama backed him up on that statement in word and in deed).

How could anyone be proud of a nation of cowards?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you go places and publicly criticize your family? Tell me which other president has gone to other countries and criticized the US.

If America is now Obama's "family," then we are still "a nation of cowards" as Obama's AG called us (and Obama backed him up on that statement in word and in deed).

How could anyone be proud of a nation of cowards?

He's right. We as a country freak out about everything. We have lost our nerve. We have been so used to living without risk that if something does come up, it creates a panic. Case in point: the great ebola freak-out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you go places and publicly criticize your family? Tell me which other president has gone to other countries and criticized the US.

If America is now Obama's "family," then we are still "a nation of cowards" as Obama's AG called us (and Obama backed him up on that statement in word and in deed).

How could anyone be proud of a nation of cowards?

He's right. We as a country freak out about everything. We have lost our nerve. We have been so used to living without risk that if something does come up, it creates a panic. Case in point: the great ebola freak-out.

I have two friends in Africa setting up Ebola clinics and fighting that virus. I would dare say they would not call it a freak-out from what they've witnessed.

[Anonymous]

Obama might not love America, but at least he didn't make loveto his cousin. Rudy is a narcissistic, self-righteous attention whore who learned everything he knows from his gangster father and uncle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Giuliani like many conservative made a ton of money off the 911 dead.

Agreed.
Funny how folks who 'love America' so much can't be bothered to oh, IDK...give a shit about 9-11 first responders who suffer to this day, or the veterans they so gleefully sent to war.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Obama might not love America, but at least he didn't make loveto his cousin. Rudy is a narcissistic, self-righteous attention whore who learned everything he knows from his gangster father and uncle.

I wouldn't go that far. But clearly he is volunteering to be a hatchet man for the campaign. I suppose he's angling for a job. And so I think the administration is right, he is tarnishing his legacy. Even if he really thought this, which I doubt, he didn't need to go public and say it any more than you should stand up at the PTA and say you think your friend is fat.

[Anonymous]

Rudy has no moral compass. Whether its marrying your cousin, banging your girlfriend in Gracie Mansion while your wife is away, using City resources to visit his girlfriend in the Hamptons and take her to Yankees games, or chumming around with Bernie Kerik. Could you imagine the right-wing furor if Obama's BFF was a convicted felon?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I like Giuliani. He brought down NY crime and weathered 9/11. He's good enough for me.

LMAO! Noun, verb, 9/11.

[Anonymous]

He's a good guy. He's entitled to his opinions on patriotism. He did his part.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Rudy has no moral compass. Whether its marrying your cousin, banging your girlfriend in Gracie Mansion while your wife is away, using City resources to visit his girlfriend in the Hamptons and take her to Yankees games, or chumming around with Bernie Kerik. Could you imagine the right-wing furor if Obama's BFF was a convicted felon?

Gee, for a second I thought you were talking about Bill Clinton.