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Anonymous wrote:If many of you believe that NDEs experience the afterlife, you must also believe that schizophrenics can experience other dimensions.

makes sense

Friend's mom was schizophrenic, and she told my friend that even though she's on the meds, they only slow her down - but that the people she sees and voices she hears are still there.

just another topic to throw into the mix

This makes no sense. It would be an accurate comparison if the people she saw and heard turned out to be real, or something similar. NDE'ers testified hearing detailed conversations of people in faraway locations and this was verified, often by surgeons themselves. It does not compare to your example.

Yes, both are the same.

A person dies and claims s/he heard a conversation in another room. A schizophrenic (alive) claims s/he hears voices and sees people from other dimensions. To both people, these "visions" (for lack of a better word) are real to them.

But there's no proof in the scientific world to support their claims.

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The difference is that schizophrenics make this claim with no reasonable person to validate their claim. And medication seems to eliminate or greatly reduce this episodes. Here, with NDE'ers, surgeons and / or friends or family members who were participants in the conversation are validating the testimony of the patients.

still doesn't make it proof of an afterlifel -- it means it's something we don't understand yet

I'm telling you there exists testimony of other reasonable people as evidence and you are denouncing that it proves anything except confusion. The evidence is proof that the consciousness is surviving and that, yes, it's confusing to you. But it still means the consciousness survives.

Seeing fluffy clouds (I just watched a clip from that neurosurgeon who claimed he had an NDE) and feeling "loved" isn't proof of anything. I can dream something similar.

Until scientists find a way to translate these NDEs into empirical evidence, it is meaningless, as it cannot be observed through our senses.

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you for sharing 11:08! As another poster mentioned, nderf.org is full of similar accounts (going back home, "how could I have forgotten?" Etc) and has changed my view on religio/faith (it's stronger now) and ideas on an afterlife.

The naysayers will find out eventually but for now they're clearly intent on sounding salty and soulless.

Maybe that's the brain's way of shutting down - feeling at one with the universe - not struggling, feeling loved. A pretty nice final memory.

I thought about that. But there would have to be a biological reason for that, wouldn't there? If there is nothing after death, then why would it matter what your final memory is? Everything our body does, it does for a reason. What would be the reason for a peaceful death, biologically speaking?

The biological process and how we interpret it aren't necessarily the same thing. People who experience the biological process of the brain shutting down may interpret that as feeling peaceful and loved, but that doesn't mean that there was some kind of evolutionary benefit to the process of shutting down producing that effect. It may just be a nice side effect of the process.

Agreed. We have no memory of being born -- and it seems like it would be a rather shocking experience from the baby's point of view.

When my sister was two, she used to tell my mom about how warm and wet it was inside her belly. She also told her she liked the drum she heard while in there.

This is most unusual and merits further study -- it is not conclusive of anything - certainly not an afterlife (or a before-life, in this case)

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Anonymous wrote:I find comfort in my husband talking to me about physics. Energy cannot be destroyed. We are all made of energy. So when we die, our energy has to go somewhere, right?

sure

It could fly off into a tree.

It could. This is true. It would still exist and then go somewhere else. So regardless of whether or not the soul exists beyond physical death, part of us still survives. If that is the case, then why would it be so far fetched that our souls continue on too? I am not religious, but I have had some crazy experiences in my life that have shown me there is MUCH more than what we know. Though, whatever you do believe, we all came from the same place and the same thing happens to us when we leave this world.

it's not that "part" of us survives. It that when we die, our physical body doesn't disappear - it takes eventually takes another form. Let any animal burn or decay and you will see what the form is. There's nothing mystical about it and certainly no evidence of an afterlife. The soul is a societal invention - like religion. There is no physical evidence that humans have souls, and animal do not -- as some religions teach.

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Anonymous wrote:I find comfort in my husband talking to me about physics. Energy cannot be destroyed. We are all made of energy. So when we die, our energy has to go somewhere, right?

sure

It could fly off into a tree.

It could. This is true. It would still exist and then go somewhere else. So regardless of whether or not the soul exists beyond physical death, part of us still survives. If that is the case, then why would it be so far fetched that our souls continue on too? I am not religious, but I have had some crazy experiences in my life that have shown me there is MUCH more than what we know. Though, whatever you do believe, we all came from the same place and the same thing happens to us when we leave this world.

it's not that "part" of us survives. It that when we die, our physical body doesn't disappear - it takes eventually takes another form. Let any animal burn or decay and you will see what the form is. There's nothing mystical about it and certainly no evidence of an afterlife. The soul is a societal invention - like religion. There is no physical evidence that humans have souls, and animal do not -- as some religions teach.

I say soul only because is how others understand it. I believe the soul is our energy. Being raised Jewish, I definitely understand what happens to the physical body after death. That is why Jews are (or supposed to be) buried in simple pine coffins. The coffin breaks down and allows the body to deteriorate and become one with the earth . We go back to the earth from which we came. I still feel that the energy that makes up our "soul" goes back out into the universe. Personally, I have never felt that there was anything mystical about it. It always just felt right to me. Even though I was raised Jewish, I am not religious. Actually, my orthodox Jewish sister in law told me I was crazy for some of the things I felt. I laughed inside because of who was telling me that! No matter what happens, I find comfort in the fact our energy goes back into stars/universe/nature...even if that is not what happens.

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Anonymous wrote:I find comfort in my husband talking to me about physics. Energy cannot be destroyed. We are all made of energy. So when we die, our energy has to go somewhere, right?

sure

It could fly off into a tree.

It could. This is true. It would still exist and then go somewhere else. So regardless of whether or not the soul exists beyond physical death, part of us still survives. If that is the case, then why would it be so far fetched that our souls continue on too? I am not religious, but I have had some crazy experiences in my life that have shown me there is MUCH more than what we know. Though, whatever you do believe, we all came from the same place and the same thing happens to us when we leave this world.

it's not that "part" of us survives. It that when we die, our physical body doesn't disappear - it takes eventually takes another form. Let any animal burn or decay and you will see what the form is. There's nothing mystical about it and certainly no evidence of an afterlife. The soul is a societal invention - like religion. There is no physical evidence that humans have souls, and animal do not -- as some religions teach.

I say soul only because is how others understand it. I believe the soul is our energy. Being raised Jewish, I definitely understand what happens to the physical body after death. That is why Jews are (or supposed to be) buried in simple pine coffins. The coffin breaks down and allows the body to deteriorate and become one with the earth . We go back to the earth from which we came. I still feel that the energy that makes up our "soul" goes back out into the universe. Personally, I have never felt that there was anything mystical about it. It always just felt right to me. Even though I was raised Jewish, I am not religious. Actually, my orthodox Jewish sister in law told me I was crazy for some of the things I felt. I laughed inside because of who was telling me that! No matter what happens, I find comfort in the fact our energy goes back into stars/universe/nature...even if that is not what happens.

Thanks for the clarification. What do you think people's souls do once they return to the universe?

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Anonymous wrote:I find comfort in my husband talking to me about physics. Energy cannot be destroyed. We are all made of energy. So when we die, our energy has to go somewhere, right?

sure

It could fly off into a tree.

It could. This is true. It would still exist and then go somewhere else. So regardless of whether or not the soul exists beyond physical death, part of us still survives. If that is the case, then why would it be so far fetched that our souls continue on too? I am not religious, but I have had some crazy experiences in my life that have shown me there is MUCH more than what we know. Though, whatever you do believe, we all came from the same place and the same thing happens to us when we leave this world.

it's not that "part" of us survives. It that when we die, our physical body doesn't disappear - it takes eventually takes another form. Let any animal burn or decay and you will see what the form is. There's nothing mystical about it and certainly no evidence of an afterlife. The soul is a societal invention - like religion. There is no physical evidence that humans have souls, and animal do not -- as some religions teach.

I say soul only because is how others understand it. I believe the soul is our energy. Being raised Jewish, I definitely understand what happens to the physical body after death. That is why Jews are (or supposed to be) buried in simple pine coffins. The coffin breaks down and allows the body to deteriorate and become one with the earth . We go back to the earth from which we came. I still feel that the energy that makes up our "soul" goes back out into the universe. Personally, I have never felt that there was anything mystical about it. It always just felt right to me. Even though I was raised Jewish, I am not religious. Actually, my orthodox Jewish sister in law told me I was crazy for some of the things I felt. I laughed inside because of who was telling me that! No matter what happens, I find comfort in the fact our energy goes back into stars/universe/nature...even if that is not what happens.

Thanks for the clarification. What do you think people's souls do once they return to the universe?

Also, do you think the same thing happens with other animals -- or maybe with plants too -- i.e. things that were once living, but are now decomposed.

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Anonymous wrote:I find comfort in my husband talking to me about physics. Energy cannot be destroyed. We are all made of energy. So when we die, our energy has to go somewhere, right?

sure

It could fly off into a tree.

It could. This is true. It would still exist and then go somewhere else. So regardless of whether or not the soul exists beyond physical death, part of us still survives. If that is the case, then why would it be so far fetched that our souls continue on too? I am not religious, but I have had some crazy experiences in my life that have shown me there is MUCH more than what we know. Though, whatever you do believe, we all came from the same place and the same thing happens to us when we leave this world.

it's not that "part" of us survives. It that when we die, our physical body doesn't disappear - it takes eventually takes another form. Let any animal burn or decay and you will see what the form is. There's nothing mystical about it and certainly no evidence of an afterlife. The soul is a societal invention - like religion. There is no physical evidence that humans have souls, and animal do not -- as some religions teach.

I say soul only because is how others understand it. I believe the soul is our energy. Being raised Jewish, I definitely understand what happens to the physical body after death. That is why Jews are (or supposed to be) buried in simple pine coffins. The coffin breaks down and allows the body to deteriorate and become one with the earth . We go back to the earth from which we came. I still feel that the energy that makes up our "soul" goes back out into the universe. Personally, I have never felt that there was anything mystical about it. It always just felt right to me. Even though I was raised Jewish, I am not religious. Actually, my orthodox Jewish sister in law told me I was crazy for some of the things I felt. I laughed inside because of who was telling me that! No matter what happens, I find comfort in the fact our energy goes back into stars/universe/nature...even if that is not what happens.

Thanks for the clarification. What do you think people's souls do once they return to the universe?

Also, do you think the same thing happens with other animals -- or maybe with plants too -- i.e. things that were once living, but are now decomposed.

Animals, yes. Plants, I don't know. I suppose it's harder for me to imagine it happening with plants because they are not (that we are aware of) sentient. That said, they are energy and it would only make sense that it goes too.

I have no idea what happens when our energy goes back. If going off quantum physics, it goes to our self that is still alive in a parallel universe. It could also go back to a collective consciousness. If that's the case, things like precognition could have more validity. I know the night before 9/11 I dreamt of running into a burning building to save people. There was blood and bodies everywhere. I never had a dream like that before or after. I then heard a bunch of people had similar dreams or saw planes flying into buildings in their dreams. How could all those people have such similar dreams on the same night? Could be coincidence, or there could be more to it. i think when people have moments of ESP, like knowing who is calling before picking up the phone, it's coming from the same place. It could be we are always tuned into it, though unaware while existing on this plane.

I wish I could understand physics and quantum physics better. I ask my husband when I have questions and he can explain it to me!

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Anonymous wrote:I find comfort in my husband talking to me about physics. Energy cannot be destroyed. We are all made of energy. So when we die, our energy has to go somewhere, right?

sure

It could fly off into a tree.

It could. This is true. It would still exist and then go somewhere else. So regardless of whether or not the soul exists beyond physical death, part of us still survives. If that is the case, then why would it be so far fetched that our souls continue on too? I am not religious, but I have had some crazy experiences in my life that have shown me there is MUCH more than what we know. Though, whatever you do believe, we all came from the same place and the same thing happens to us when we leave this world.

it's not that "part" of us survives. It that when we die, our physical body doesn't disappear - it takes eventually takes another form. Let any animal burn or decay and you will see what the form is. There's nothing mystical about it and certainly no evidence of an afterlife. The soul is a societal invention - like religion. There is no physical evidence that humans have souls, and animal do not -- as some religions teach.

I say soul only because is how others understand it. I believe the soul is our energy. Being raised Jewish, I definitely understand what happens to the physical body after death. That is why Jews are (or supposed to be) buried in simple pine coffins. The coffin breaks down and allows the body to deteriorate and become one with the earth . We go back to the earth from which we came. I still feel that the energy that makes up our "soul" goes back out into the universe. Personally, I have never felt that there was anything mystical about it. It always just felt right to me. Even though I was raised Jewish, I am not religious. Actually, my orthodox Jewish sister in law told me I was crazy for some of the things I felt. I laughed inside because of who was telling me that! No matter what happens, I find comfort in the fact our energy goes back into stars/universe/nature...even if that is not what happens.

Thanks for the clarification. What do you think people's souls do once they return to the universe?

Also, do you think the same thing happens with other animals -- or maybe with plants too -- i.e. things that were once living, but are now decomposed.

I forgot to add, that coincidentally, a Facebook friend of mine posted a quote from a book on the exact subject! She is my sister in laws best friend. We are not close and only communicate via Facebook comments. It was a quote that how when we pass on, our energy goes back into all things. I will copy and paste the quote when I get back from the gym.

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Anonymous wrote:I find comfort in my husband talking to me about physics. Energy cannot be destroyed. We are all made of energy. So when we die, our energy has to go somewhere, right?

sure

It could fly off into a tree.

It could. This is true. It would still exist and then go somewhere else. So regardless of whether or not the soul exists beyond physical death, part of us still survives. If that is the case, then why would it be so far fetched that our souls continue on too? I am not religious, but I have had some crazy experiences in my life that have shown me there is MUCH more than what we know. Though, whatever you do believe, we all came from the same place and the same thing happens to us when we leave this world.

it's not that "part" of us survives. It that when we die, our physical body doesn't disappear - it takes eventually takes another form. Let any animal burn or decay and you will see what the form is. There's nothing mystical about it and certainly no evidence of an afterlife. The soul is a societal invention - like religion. There is no physical evidence that humans have souls, and animal do not -- as some religions teach.

I say soul only because is how others understand it. I believe the soul is our energy. Being raised Jewish, I definitely understand what happens to the physical body after death. That is why Jews are (or supposed to be) buried in simple pine coffins. The coffin breaks down and allows the body to deteriorate and become one with the earth . We go back to the earth from which we came. I still feel that the energy that makes up our "soul" goes back out into the universe. Personally, I have never felt that there was anything mystical about it. It always just felt right to me. Even though I was raised Jewish, I am not religious. Actually, my orthodox Jewish sister in law told me I was crazy for some of the things I felt. I laughed inside because of who was telling me that! No matter what happens, I find comfort in the fact our energy goes back into stars/universe/nature...even if that is not what happens.

Thanks for the clarification. What do you think people's souls do once they return to the universe?

Also, do you think the same thing happens with other animals -- or maybe with plants too -- i.e. things that were once living, but are now decomposed.

I forgot to add, that coincidentally, a Facebook friend of mine posted a quote from a book on the exact subject! She is my sister in laws best friend. We are not close and only communicate via Facebook comments. It was a quote that how when we pass on, our energy goes back into all things. I will copy and paste the quote when I get back from the gym.

Yes, This is a coincidence -- there are many in life Perhaps it is more than that too, but that doesn't mean that it's supernatural -- just that it's something we don't understand yet.

I've also had dreams that are precient, but I didn't assume they came from god or some force outside the universe - not my nature, I guess.

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Anonymous wrote:I find comfort in my husband talking to me about physics. Energy cannot be destroyed. We are all made of energy. So when we die, our energy has to go somewhere, right?

sure

It could fly off into a tree.

It could. This is true. It would still exist and then go somewhere else. So regardless of whether or not the soul exists beyond physical death, part of us still survives. If that is the case, then why would it be so far fetched that our souls continue on too? I am not religious, but I have had some crazy experiences in my life that have shown me there is MUCH more than what we know. Though, whatever you do believe, we all came from the same place and the same thing happens to us when we leave this world.

it's not that "part" of us survives. It that when we die, our physical body doesn't disappear - it takes eventually takes another form. Let any animal burn or decay and you will see what the form is. There's nothing mystical about it and certainly no evidence of an afterlife. The soul is a societal invention - like religion. There is no physical evidence that humans have souls, and animal do not -- as some religions teach.

I say soul only because is how others understand it. I believe the soul is our energy. Being raised Jewish, I definitely understand what happens to the physical body after death. That is why Jews are (or supposed to be) buried in simple pine coffins. The coffin breaks down and allows the body to deteriorate and become one with the earth . We go back to the earth from which we came. I still feel that the energy that makes up our "soul" goes back out into the universe. Personally, I have never felt that there was anything mystical about it. It always just felt right to me. Even though I was raised Jewish, I am not religious. Actually, my orthodox Jewish sister in law told me I was crazy for some of the things I felt. I laughed inside because of who was telling me that! No matter what happens, I find comfort in the fact our energy goes back into stars/universe/nature...even if that is not what happens.

Thanks for the clarification. What do you think people's souls do once they return to the universe?

Also, do you think the same thing happens with other animals -- or maybe with plants too -- i.e. things that were once living, but are now decomposed.

Animals, yes. Plants, I don't know. I suppose it's harder for me to imagine it happening with plants because they are not (that we are aware of) sentient. That said, they are energy and it would only make sense that it goes too.

I have no idea what happens when our energy goes back. If going off quantum physics, it goes to our self that is still alive in a parallel universe. It could also go back to a collective consciousness. If that's the case, things like precognition could have more validity. I know the night before 9/11 I dreamt of running into a burning building to save people. There was blood and bodies everywhere. I never had a dream like that before or after. I then heard a bunch of people had similar dreams or saw planes flying into buildings in their dreams. How could all those people have such similar dreams on the same night? Could be coincidence, or there could be more to it. i think when people have moments of ESP, like knowing who is calling before picking up the phone, it's coming from the same place. It could be we are always tuned into it, though unaware while existing on this plane.

I wish I could understand physics and quantum physics better. I ask my husband when I have questions and he can explain it to me!

Probably on any given night, a lot of people have similar dreams, but nothing happens the next day to make them aware of what others are dreaming.

It could be that something more is going on, but that's not to say it is something from a supernatural force. Chances are, like everything we've figured out up to now, it's a natural phenomenon that we had previously not understood.

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Anonymous wrote:I find comfort in my husband talking to me about physics. Energy cannot be destroyed. We are all made of energy. So when we die, our energy has to go somewhere, right?

sure

It could fly off into a tree.

It could. This is true. It would still exist and then go somewhere else. So regardless of whether or not the soul exists beyond physical death, part of us still survives. If that is the case, then why would it be so far fetched that our souls continue on too? I am not religious, but I have had some crazy experiences in my life that have shown me there is MUCH more than what we know. Though, whatever you do believe, we all came from the same place and the same thing happens to us when we leave this world.

it's not that "part" of us survives. It that when we die, our physical body doesn't disappear - it takes eventually takes another form. Let any animal burn or decay and you will see what the form is. There's nothing mystical about it and certainly no evidence of an afterlife. The soul is a societal invention - like religion. There is no physical evidence that humans have souls, and animal do not -- as some religions teach.

I say soul only because is how others understand it. I believe the soul is our energy. Being raised Jewish, I definitely understand what happens to the physical body after death. That is why Jews are (or supposed to be) buried in simple pine coffins. The coffin breaks down and allows the body to deteriorate and become one with the earth . We go back to the earth from which we came. I still feel that the energy that makes up our "soul" goes back out into the universe. Personally, I have never felt that there was anything mystical about it. It always just felt right to me. Even though I was raised Jewish, I am not religious. Actually, my orthodox Jewish sister in law told me I was crazy for some of the things I felt. I laughed inside because of who was telling me that! No matter what happens, I find comfort in the fact our energy goes back into stars/universe/nature...even if that is not what happens.

Thanks for the clarification. What do you think people's souls do once they return to the universe?

Also, do you think the same thing happens with other animals -- or maybe with plants too -- i.e. things that were once living, but are now decomposed.

I forgot to add, that coincidentally, a Facebook friend of mine posted a quote from a book on the exact subject! She is my sister in laws best friend. We are not close and only communicate via Facebook comments. It was a quote that how when we pass on, our energy goes back into all things. I will copy and paste the quote when I get back from the gym.

Yes, This is a coincidence -- there are many in life Perhaps it is more than that too, but that doesn't mean that it's supernatural -- just that it's something we don't understand yet.

I've also had dreams that are precient, but I didn't assume they came from god or some force outside the universe - not my nature, I guess.

No, definitely not supernatural. There is a whole lot that we don't understand. I feel religion is there to help comfort people who are uneasy with not knowing. When my mom passed away, I finally understood why people turn to or are religious. I suppose believing it's Gods plan gives them a sense of control when everything is in chaos. I definitely understood, but it did not make me believe. As I said earlier, my husband explaining that energy cannot be destroyed is what gave me comfort.

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Anonymous wrote:So in other words, you don't have a theory to explain it but believers do and always have for thousands of years.

Believers have an explanation that's tangible and that's been reviewed by peers?

lol!

You're a moron if you think the bible is "evidence."

Since when is fiction fact?

Not a moron --a person of faith. Many people of faith don't think the bible is all fact-based, but it doesn't matter because they have the gift of faith. Sometimes their faith may falter, but it always comes back -- usually stronger, for some reason. People who don't have that gift - who don't even try to believe things that on the surface seem unbelievable - can't understand people who do have it. "Their loss" thinks the person of faith, who is happy and secure in the love of God, without concern for logic in matters of faith, though they may be entirely local people in other aspects of their lives.

I know with 100% certainty there is a God, and He is the one who created all. Those with NDE's, particularly those who were atheist, can validate this. Surgeons whose conversations were repeated back to them can validate this also. It's tangible to them. Surgeons have peers, other surgeons, who claim these are not at all uncommon. They know of it.

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Anonymous wrote:So in other words, you don't have a theory to explain it but believers do and always have for thousands of years.

Believers have an explanation that's tangible and that's been reviewed by peers?

lol!

You're a moron if you think the bible is "evidence."

Since when is fiction fact?

Not a moron --a person of faith. Many people of faith don't think the bible is all fact-based, but it doesn't matter because they have the gift of faith. Sometimes their faith may falter, but it always comes back -- usually stronger, for some reason. People who don't have that gift - who don't even try to believe things that on the surface seem unbelievable - can't understand people who do have it. "Their loss" thinks the person of faith, who is happy and secure in the love of God, without concern for logic in matters of faith, though they may be entirely local people in other aspects of their lives.

I know with 100% certainty there is a God, and He is the one who created all. Those with NDE's, particularly those who were atheist, can validate this. Surgeons whose conversations were repeated back to them can validate this also. It's tangible to them. Surgeons have peers, other surgeons, who claim these are not at all uncommon. They know of it.

They are validating that they had an experience that they interpreted in a certain way. They are not (and cannot be) validating the claim the NDE's prove an afterlife.

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This is so ridiculous that I can't believe you are still talking about it on this forum.

Near Death Experiences are NEAR DEATH. If you want to believe in an afterlife, knock yourself out, but please don't insult my intelligence by debating it like there are any FACTS at all to support your belief. That's why they call it a belief.

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Anonymous wrote:This is so ridiculous that I can't believe you are still talking about it on this forum.

Near Death Experiences are NEAR DEATH. If you want to believe in an afterlife, knock yourself out, but please don't insult my intelligence by debating it like there are any FACTS at all to support your belief. That's why they call it a belief.

Here's an article written by a respected religious news organization about near death experiences:

"Heaven and Near Death experiences: Separating fact from fiction" http://jonathanmerritt.religionnews.com/2016/01/01/heaven-and-near-death-experiences-separating-fact-from-fiction/