Near Death Experience proves

[Anonymous]

It's interesting how angry unbelievers get when faced with the idea that life may continue after death.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXqrEsCRars

[Anonymous]

Near death experience proves the mind is still active and imaginative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Near death experience proves the mind is still active and imaginative.

+1

The brain is incredibly powerful.

[Anonymous]

So her NDE is proof of reincarnation?

What do Christians think of THAT?

[Anonymous]

This happened in 1987.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
It's interesting how angry unbelievers get when faced with the idea that life may continue after death.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXqrEsCRars

"Unbeliever" here. The idea that some kind of awareness might continue after physical death doesn't anger me. If true, it simply means there's something going on that we don't yet understand, because we don't have any physical explanation for how such an event might happen. However, most (if not all) of the reported near-death experiences have been debunked or some alternative explanation has been provided.

But even if true, such an event does not provide any proof of the existence of a deity or the validity of any religious text.

So, what happens to consciousness and awareness at the boundary between life and death is an interesting question - one that has demonstrated that the boundary between such states is more of a continuum than a binary event like a light switch - but as far as I know there has been no scientifically valid (testable, repeatable, falsifiable) evidence of any kind of consciousness or awareness existing beyond the point where there is no physically detectable activity in the body.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
It's interesting how angry unbelievers get when faced with the idea that life may continue after death.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXqrEsCRars

OP seems to enjoy projecting his/her anger onto unbelievers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
It's interesting how angry unbelievers get when faced with the idea that life may continue after death.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXqrEsCRars

OP seems to enjoy projecting his/her anger onto unbelievers

Nope. Happy person here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
It's interesting how angry unbelievers get when faced with the idea that life may continue after death.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXqrEsCRars

"Unbeliever" here. The idea that some kind of awareness might continue after physical death doesn't anger me. If true, it simply means there's something going on that we don't yet understand, because we don't have any physical explanation for how such an event might happen. However, most (if not all) of the reported near-death experiences have been debunked or some alternative explanation has been provided.

But even if true, such an event does not provide any proof of the existence of a deity or the validity of any religious text.

So, what happens to consciousness and awareness at the boundary between life and death is an interesting question - one that has demonstrated that the boundary between such states is more of a continuum than a binary event like a light switch - but as far as I know there has been no scientifically valid (testable, repeatable, falsifiable) evidence of any kind of consciousness or awareness existing beyond the point where there is no physically detectable activity in the body.

You're right. Let me paraphrase. It's interesting how SOME unbelievers get angry when faced with the idea that life continues after death.
If unbelievers have no explanation to offer then maybe it's time for them to consider the explanation that has been available for thousands of years. No one has debunked NDE's. They have a theory for why some may see lights during clinical death but can not offer any explanation for why dead patients were able to know the intimate details of conversations between people in other rooms or other places. And they will never be able to offer an explanation for it because the only explanation for it is that there is an afterlife, there is a soul or consciousness, and that soul or consciousness is endowed with powers beyond what is understandable by scientists on earth.

Holy books have been talking about an afterlife, a soul or consciousness, God and the Heavens for thousands of years. If the concept of a soul or consciousness exists, then it follows that the other things the holy books spoke of may also be true. At least a rational person should recognize that it is not wise to vehemently discount them. After all, how foolish do they feel now that they can not offer any explanation for why dead patients can hear the conversations of people in other rooms, buildings, or even across different cities?

[Anonymous]

just think of all those foolish people in different rooms, buildings and cities! hopefully some of them will be reading this message board, and will feel foolish and contrite and change their ways to join the smart reasonable people who believe in NDEs

[Anonymous]

And here is one "foolish" person, cardiologist Dr. Lloyd Rudy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL1oDuvQR08

And another "foolish" orthopedic surgeon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as6yslz-RDw

Oh my, too many "foolish" people to list!

[Anonymous]

And here are the ones who refute the "foolish" people but can't seem to come up with an alternative explanation:


http://www.ostrichheadinsand.com/images/ostrich_head_in_sand.jpg

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

And here are the ones who refute the "foolish" people but can't seem to come up with an alternative explanation:


http://www.ostrichheadinsand.com/images/ostrich_head_in_sand.jpg

b/c the ostrich proves your point

How difficult is it to do a little bit of research?

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/264740.php

George Mashour, assistant professor of anesthesiology and neurosurgery at the University of Michigan, explains:

"We were surprised by the high levels of activity. In fact, at near-death, many known electrical signatures of consciousness exceeded levels found in the waking state, suggesting that the brain is capable of well-organized electrical activity during the early stage of clinical death."

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/08/12/211324316/brains-of-dying-rats-yield-clues-about-near-death-experiences

Just after the rats' hearts stopped, there was a burst of brain activity. Their brain suddenly seemed to go into overdrive, showing all the hallmarks not only of consciousness but a kind of hyperconsciousness.

"We found continued and heightened activity," Borjigan says. "Measurable conscious activity is much, much higher after the heart stops — within the first 30 seconds."

Borjigin and her colleagues think they essentially discovered the neurological basis for near-death experiences. "That really just, just really blew our mind. ... That really is consistent with what patients report," she says.

Patients report that what they experienced felt more real than reality — so intense that it's often described as life-altering.

[Anonymous]

It's true then - NDE's prove an afterlife? when will the major religions get on board? or perhaps there will be a new religion based on NDE's.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's true then - NDE's prove an afterlife? when will the major religions get on board? or perhaps there will be a new religion based on NDE's.

too reminiscent of flatliners with Kiefer Sutherland . . .

Or, maybe the screenplay could be the NDE's new bible