What great out of state public colleges do your kids love?
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There's no JMU booster. OP slammed it and asked for it. OP's not current with what's going on with the VA system and how difficult it has become for in-staters to get into all of the VA schools. Go read the wikipedia page on GMU, for example. And GMU's grads have jobs when they graduate (average starting $65K a year) and William & Mary is the worst (straight out of the mouth of the GMU President and confirmed by the board of visitors). GMU offers programs like engineering that can get them jobs right out of college, especially in the Dulles Tech. Corridor. I don't know as much about JMU but in-state Virginians are really overlooking something great if they blow off the VA schools without reading up on them - seriously go read that wikipedia page - and visit the campuses. Or try UVA or William & Mary - they have a helluva better reputation than the Univ. of Spoiled Children. |
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We toured Drexel. Hated it.
BTW, many of the Texas state schools have a one year residency requirement before applying. We briefly looked at Texas A & M (computers) but DC would have to move there for a year before applying. Same with the California schools - so check out those residency requirements before wasting your time. When we applied to VA universities we had to provide address, date we moved in to that address, etc. etc. how long had we lived in the state. |
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Well, stop poking, especially if you don't know what you are talking about. GMU is no longer a commuter school. The former President just finished a 12 year building program which will be continued by the new president, Angel Cabrera. Over six thousand students live on campus now (new dorms!) and more are being built as fast as they can. |
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Indiana University is very similar in all these ways except no lake. Great journalism program. |
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Why did you hate Drexel? My kid wants a big school in the city and I thought it might fit the bill. |
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talk about huge. And 86% acceptance rate. Oh well. if that's the best you can do.... |
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For Texas and California residency requirements, I assume that's to receive the instate tuition rates or do you mean before you can apply? |
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yes, that's for in-state tuition. can't speak to California, but Texas has a very hard cap on number of OOS that it will accept, making getting into UT-Austin OOS *very* competitive/difficult |
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But it makes perfect sense that before you receive in state tuition that you prove your in state residency, right? Or am I missing something? |
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That's a very good question and I think it varies wildly from state to state. Some state systems are very good and very competitive so have strict residency requirements. That's why I was urging OP to check before getting invested in a school. The Texas state schools (well at least the ones we looked at, see comment about the dual system in CA below) definitely required a one year residency before you could apply at all. We did look into Texas A&M and some others (some really good schools down there!) and DC would have had to live there in Texas for a year before even applying. In sharp contrast, Univ. of California allows, indeeds encourages, OOS because the state is bankrupt and they need the kids who will pay full freight. So no problem there applying from OOS, especially if your application looks like you are going to pay full zOOS freight. In fact, the U.C. system has gotten legislation passed that increases the no. of college seats available to OOS just for this reason (this info is directly from a Regent). However, the Univ of Cal system is different from the California State University system (there were two state university systems in CA set up in the glory days of CA; also a very good two year junior college system, now called community college system - the push in Cal's glory days was to let every Californian have a shot at college). The Cal State system takes Californians first. I had called one of the flagships that feeds computer geeks and animators into Disneyland and was told there was no point in applying from the east coast because they were "oversubscribed" by thousands of Californians who wanted in. The only way DC could go to a Cal STate Univ. school (as opposed to Univ. of Cal.) was to move out there and live out the residency requirement (I don't know what it is) and then apply to Cal State San Diego, etc., but only after paying her dues as a resident. Then there's VA which takes too many OOS (IMHO) again to get kids who will pay full freight. And a lot of international students for the same reason. No residency requirement for OOS. But when we applied as a resident we had to prove residency and length of residency. I know someone in DC's class going to Univ. of Georgia, so obviously no residency requiremen there, etc. So my advice was to just make sure before visiting that there isn't a residency requirement. BTW - something to check out. I read somewhere that sometimes OSS kids get stigmatized by the in-state kids. This particular anecdote was about UVA and the UVA in-state resident's attitudes. An OSS woman was complaining that once she said she was from "X State" then the other kids would say, "Oh, another wealthy stupid student paying our way through college, park your Mercedes over there and thank you very much". The story could be isolated but I did read it and it was someone's quote with photo about her misery at UVA as an OSS. If I were looking at OSS opportunities for DC, I would very much check into that. It's well known in the U.C. (Univ. of Cal.) system that the OSS'rs are paying the say of the in-state kids. And the in-state kids think they are superior. I would certainly ask a lot of questions and try to find out if that is true. Good luck! |
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Obvious flamebait to state that Pitt is considered so much harder out of state from MD than JMU. Farifax County was never discussed, and if it were JMU/Va Tech are historically backups for UVa/WM in selectivity, everyone knows this. What is also weird on DCUM: every time James Madison U. or Va Tech is mentioned, someone brings up George Mason in the same discussion, and describes the person who mentions VT or JMU as a school "booster" as if that is a negative? For the record, James Madison is a rather large school, it is no longer the selective little liberal arts school it was in the 80s. I would be shocked that there aren't multiple "boosters" of this school. And yes, from Mont Co HSs, JMU is not very easy to get into. |
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[quote=AnonymousI would add James Madison, Pitt and Va Tech...lots of smart kids in DS class at Churchill cross states for these places
...Snip.... What is also weird on DCUM: every time James Madison U. or Va Tech is mentioned, someone brings up George Mason in the same discussion Re: JMU/VT versus GMU This is sort of like every time Arlington or Bethesda is mentioned in DCUM, someone brings up Pimmit Hills. Or Mosaic. 
+ 1000 for the Pimmit Hills reference |