Declining UVA

Anonymous
Similar situation.. My DC picked UMD over Michigan and GTech. Didn’t make sense to spend extra money for a slightly higher ranking..
People forget that Michigan and UVA accept lower stats students from instate. Going to an out of state flagship for some perceived prestige based on rankings doesn’t justify the dollars. But yes some people will spend a ton for the sake of prestige.
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Anonymous wrote:Similar situation.. My DC picked UMD over Michigan and GTech. Didn’t make sense to spend extra money for a slightly higher ranking..
People forget that Michigan and UVA accept lower stats students from instate. Going to an out of state flagship for some perceived prestige based on rankings doesn’t justify the dollars. But yes some people will spend a ton for the sake of prestige.


It's not just about prestige...

Michigan and GTech are much stronger academically and have better job prospects & resources than UMD. Ross at Michigan and CS/Engineering at GTech for example. The difference isn't huge, but it for sure is noticeable and the reason why most would pick Michigan and GTech over UMD.
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Anonymous wrote:For starters, UVA is not strong in engineering. There was a thread asking (a month ago?) about choosing between UVA cs in state vs. UIUC cs+math oos, and the overwhelming response was the latter. The mom creating the thread was so surprised that she had to clarify a couple of times, but the response remained the same!


USNWR ranks UVA 39 in engineering so the idea it’s “not strong” is very stupid. Not being MIT or CMU does not mean you’re not strong ffs.


39 is considered lowish and not strong by engineering students with better options.


You are an idiot. It is absolutely strong by any standard. I assure you that employers (such as the engineering company I work for) regard it as a strong program.
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Anonymous wrote:Let’s be real, not everyone that is admitted will enroll. If your DC rejected UVA, can you share why and where they went?


pomona.
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Anonymous wrote:Similar situation.. My DC picked UMD over Michigan and GTech. Didn’t make sense to spend extra money for a slightly higher ranking..
People forget that Michigan and UVA accept lower stats students from instate. Going to an out of state flagship for some perceived prestige based on rankings doesn’t justify the dollars. But yes some people will spend a ton for the sake of prestige.


It's not just about prestige...

Michigan and GTech are much stronger academically and have better job prospects & resources than UMD. Ross at Michigan and CS/Engineering at GTech for example. The difference isn't huge, but it for sure is noticeable and the reason why most would pick Michigan and GTech over UMD.


Nah not buying that. They’re all big state U’s.
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Preferring the beach to the mountains? Sorry, that's one bizarre reason for picking CNU over UVA.


Wow - you picked one sentence out of a paragraph. No mention of the size. No mention of the vibe. And plenty of kids pick a school based on geography; he would not go north of Richmond.
You do you though.
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Anonymous wrote:Let’s be real, not everyone that is admitted will enroll. If your DC rejected UVA, can you share why and where they went?


Students from area private school, including DC who were accepted UVA and selected elsewhere:

Princeton (did not get Echols but were hooked for Pton)
Penn (got Rodman at UVA)
Georgetown (Got Echols at UVA)
Berkeley
UNC x 2 students (one got Echols one did not, & was a Morehead-Cain finalist)


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Anonymous wrote:For some kids attending UVA is a lifelong dream, for some kids it is a target and for others a safety.

Kids apply to a number of schools, and in most cases get acceptances from more than one school but in the end can only attend one school. So yield won’t be 100%.

Fit matters and believe it or not UVA may not be the best fit for everyone.


Nice subtle dig. UVA isn't a "safety" for any kid, almost by definition.


I agree that you cannot call anything with an under 20% admissions rate a safety. But if you look at Naviance at our FCPS school, there is a top right corner that is 100% green checks. Students whose numbers fall within that part of the graph can be very confident that they will be admitted.


Not saying you are completely wrong, but my in-state kid's numbers were at the very top right of his school's Naviance graph, surrounded by nothing but green checks, and he didn't get in to UVA. Still rankles me a little bit, but he ended up out of state in a situation which has turned out to be great for him.


That applied to one red X at kid's school and everyone asked the counseling dean. All they would say is that there were clear reasons and the counselors were not at all surprised.
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Only applied because I insisted, picked VT, go Hokies I guess.
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Anonymous wrote:My kid declined because admitted students day confirmed her sense that another school was a better fit for her. UVA is a fantastic school but not right for everyone. She is really happy where she landed.


Yet you won't name the school? Not helpful to OP in the slightest.



DP here. The above was our DC too. Chose W&M.


Same experience. A great choice for our DC.
For their MSc they made sure to choose a university in a city. DC wasnt ready for a city as college freshman. Everything has its right time. Trust their gut instinct.
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Anonymous wrote:Similar situation.. My DC picked UMD over Michigan and GTech. Didn’t make sense to spend extra money for a slightly higher ranking..
People forget that Michigan and UVA accept lower stats students from instate. Going to an out of state flagship for some perceived prestige based on rankings doesn’t justify the dollars. But yes some people will spend a ton for the sake of prestige.


Keep in mind that a lot of "lower stats" students are just kids who:

Didn't have any paid math or ELA tutoring
Didn't have paid SAT prep
Didn't take the SATs multiple times
May still believe that SATs measure what you know
Don't have parents monitoring their apps
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Mine accepted UVA, along with a few other big public and couple private (ohio State, UMD, UIUc, Penn state, CWRU etc), chose Purdue. Engineering
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Anonymous wrote:My DC chose CNU over UVA. He liked the fit better and the vibe. UVA was larger than he wanted as well. 10K was his goal but other than Radford and WM not many schools in that range. He is thriving at CNU and (from my biased view) is a big fish there. He made a great decision. He also wants to be closer to the beach than the mountains.


What a bizarre decision, sorry.


You’re a jerk, sorry. DP


Preferring the beach to the mountains? Sorry, that's one bizarre reason for picking CNU over UVA.


That’s your opinion.


It’s ridiculous. That’s what it is. Who turns down one of the top universities in the country in favor of a no name school based on proximity to Virginia Beach?


Holy smokes. In all honesty, step back for a minute and try to understand that your posts are the type that make UVA look bad. Seriously.


+1
People like the PP are toxic.
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Anonymous wrote:For starters, UVA is not strong in engineering. There was a thread asking (a month ago?) about choosing between UVA cs in state vs. UIUC cs+math oos, and the overwhelming response was the latter. The mom creating the thread was so surprised that she had to clarify a couple of times, but the response remained the same!


USNWR ranks UVA 39 in engineering so the idea it’s “not strong” is very stupid. Not being MIT or CMU does not mean you’re not strong ffs.


39 is considered lowish and not strong by engineering students with better options.


You are an idiot. It is absolutely strong by any standard. I assure you that employers (such as the engineering company I work for) regard it as a strong program.


The PP is correct. No one is touting UVA as a "strong engineering school."
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Anonymous wrote:Only applied because I insisted, picked VT, go Hokies I guess.


+1
I insisted mine apply to UVA and W&M even though DC made it very clear he had no interest in either and VT was his top choice. Got into all three and is a very happy Hokie. Not a STEM major.
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