Declining UVA

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Anonymous wrote:My DC chose CNU over UVA. He liked the fit better and the vibe. UVA was larger than he wanted as well. 10K was his goal but other than Radford and WM not many schools in that range. He is thriving at CNU and (from my biased view) is a big fish there. He made a great decision. He also wants to be closer to the beach than the mountains.

What a bizarre decision, sorry.

You’re a jerk, sorry. DP

DP

The average GPA at CNU is about 1200 with an acceptance rate over 80%. If your kid got into UVA, then your kid isn't a big fish in a little pond, your kid is a whale in a fishtank. This does seem a little bit unusual.

DP. My kid is truly torn between UVA and VCU, which has a 92% acceptance rate.

I had kids attend both. One of my VCU kid’s BFF was a UVA transfer, and one of my UVA kid’s BFFs also transferred to VCU after the first year at UVA. In both instances the kids were artsy types with interests in the kind of majors that made them natural fits for VCU from the get go but who were also very high achievers in high school who felt pressure from parents and peers and themselves to try UVA because it’s UVA.

VCU is a totally different vibe and attracts a totally different type of student than UVA, though. So you can see how for a discrete subset of student going there over UVA makes complete and total sense.

But CNU over UVA makes no sense at all.

Also, notwithstanding its higher acceptance rate, VCU is a much better school than CNU in its own right.

Do you have a cite?

It’s a given.

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Anonymous wrote:For some kids attending UVA is a lifelong dream, for some kids it is a target and for others a safety.

Kids apply to a number of schools, and in most cases get acceptances from more than one school but in the end can only attend one school. So yield won’t be 100%.

Fit matters and believe it or not UVA may not be the best fit for everyone.

Nice subtle dig. UVA isn't a "safety" for any kid, almost by definition.

It was a safety for me 30 years ago.

Yea that’s what they said about Penn 30 years ago too. Not relevant today.

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Anonymous wrote:My DC chose CNU over UVA. He liked the fit better and the vibe. UVA was larger than he wanted as well. 10K was his goal but other than Radford and WM not many schools in that range. He is thriving at CNU and (from my biased view) is a big fish there. He made a great decision. He also wants to be closer to the beach than the mountains.

What a bizarre decision, sorry.

THIS is why people think UVA grads are such douches.
That they went to UVA is the first thing you learn about them . . . as if anyone cares.

FYI, my DC turned down a top 15 school in the NE for a small VA school, akin to CNU. Part was costs (we COULD have paid the big bill but DC chose to grad debt free with money for grad school). Part was location. Part was feel of the campus/vibe. On paper, the choice looks crazy but, in reality, it was the perfect decision and DC is thriving.

Not everyone is a wanna-be striver, PP.

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I didn’t go to UVA and I think choosing CNU over UVA is weird and questionable. It’s the kind of thing people say when their kid didn’t actually get into UVA “oh yeah he just preferred the vastly inferior school, he liked the vibe better.” Uh huh.

+1 I just admit I think that too. Who chooses CNU over UVA???

Someone that thinks CNU is a better fit.

Someone who is smart enough to not be a sheep. The kid who chooses CNU is likely very mature for their age and is looking for close mentoring relationships that a smaller school can provide. I’m a proud Mary Washington grad so I understand. Not everyone chases prestige.

It’s high time you got over not being admitted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Undergrad students at smaller schools like CNU are likely to be taught by full professors rather than teaching assistants or part-time instructors. Some students prefer that. The connections one can get from actually having a mentoring relationship with a professor vs just being a butt in a seat is invaluable. First jobs are often the result of recommendations from faculty who know you as an individual.

Yeah, I doubt that CNU grads are landing better first year jobs than UVA grads. Sorry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Undergrad students at smaller schools like CNU are likely to be taught by full professors rather than teaching assistants or part-time instructors. Some students prefer that. The connections one can get from actually having a mentoring relationship with a professor vs just being a butt in a seat is invaluable. First jobs are often the result of recommendations from faculty who know you as an individual.

This is believable at least compared with some colleges.

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Anonymous wrote:My DC chose CNU over UVA. He liked the fit better and the vibe. UVA was larger than he wanted as well. 10K was his goal but other than Radford and WM not many schools in that range. He is thriving at CNU and (from my biased view) is a big fish there. He made a great decision. He also wants to be closer to the beach than the mountains.

What a bizarre decision, sorry.

You’re a jerk, sorry. DP

DP

The average GPA at CNU is about 1200 with an acceptance rate over 80%. If your kid got into UVA, then your kid isn't a big fish in a little pond, your kid is a whale in a fishtank. This does seem a little bit unusual.

DP. My kid is truly torn between UVA and VCU, which has a 92% acceptance rate.

I had kids attend both. One of my VCU kid’s BFF was a UVA transfer, and one of my UVA kid’s BFFs also transferred to VCU after the first year at UVA. In both instances the kids were artsy types with interests in the kind of majors that made them natural fits for VCU from the get go but who were also very high achievers in high school who felt pressure from parents and peers and themselves to try UVA because it’s UVA.

VCU is a totally different vibe and attracts a totally different type of student than UVA, though. So you can see how for a discrete subset of student going there over UVA makes complete and total sense.

But CNU over UVA makes no sense at all.

Also, notwithstanding its higher acceptance rate, VCU is a much better school than CNU in its own right.

Do you have a cite?

It’s a given.

That’s not how this works. I’m sure a CNU student knows to cite courses. Oh well, next time don’t make claims without being able to back them up with a cite.

[Anonymous]

Ours just wants to leave Virginia and they got into a dream lac which better aligns with what they want out of a college. Had no interest but had to apply to a state school.

[Anonymous]

“New data shows that at elite private colleges, the children of alumni, known as legacies, are in fact slightly more qualified than typical applicants”

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/27/upshot/ivy-league-legacy-admissions.html

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My DC chose CNU over UVA. He liked the fit better and the vibe. UVA was larger than he wanted as well. 10K was his goal but other than Radford and WM not many schools in that range. He is thriving at CNU and (from my biased view) is a big fish there. He made a great decision. He also wants to be closer to the beach than the mountains.

What a bizarre decision, sorry.

THIS is why people think UVA grads are such douches.
That they went to UVA is the first thing you learn about them . . . as if anyone cares.

FYI, my DC turned down a top 15 school in the NE for a small VA school, akin to CNU. Part was costs (we COULD have paid the big bill but DC chose to grad debt free with money for grad school). Part was location. Part was feel of the campus/vibe. On paper, the choice looks crazy but, in reality, it was the perfect decision and DC is thriving.

Not everyone is a wanna-be striver, PP.

o

I didn’t go to UVA and I think choosing CNU over UVA is weird and questionable. It’s the kind of thing people say when their kid didn’t actually get into UVA “oh yeah he just preferred the vastly inferior school, he liked the vibe better.” Uh huh.

+1 I just admit I think that too. Who chooses CNU over UVA???

Someone that thinks CNU is a better fit.

Someone who is smart enough to not be a sheep. The kid who chooses CNU is likely very mature for their age and is looking for close mentoring relationships that a smaller school can provide. I’m a proud Mary Washington grad so I understand. Not everyone chases prestige.

It’s high time you got over not being admitted.

I didn’t apply to UVA. I didn’t want it. I knew I wanted MW because of family history of attending going back to the early 1900’s. FWIW, at one time MW was the women’s division of UVA.

[Anonymous]

Like they say…one person’s rejection is another’s desire.

So wish we could get into Uva.

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Anonymous wrote:My DC chose CNU over UVA. He liked the fit better and the vibe. UVA was larger than he wanted as well. 10K was his goal but other than Radford and WM not many schools in that range. He is thriving at CNU and (from my biased view) is a big fish there. He made a great decision. He also wants to be closer to the beach than the mountains.

What a bizarre decision, sorry.

You’re a jerk, sorry. DP

DP

The average GPA at CNU is about 1200 with an acceptance rate over 80%. If your kid got into UVA, then your kid isn't a big fish in a little pond, your kid is a whale in a fishtank. This does seem a little bit unusual.

DP. My kid is truly torn between UVA and VCU, which has a 92% acceptance rate.

I had kids attend both. One of my VCU kid’s BFF was a UVA transfer, and one of my UVA kid’s BFFs also transferred to VCU after the first year at UVA. In both instances the kids were artsy types with interests in the kind of majors that made them natural fits for VCU from the get go but who were also very high achievers in high school who felt pressure from parents and peers and themselves to try UVA because it’s UVA.

VCU is a totally different vibe and attracts a totally different type of student than UVA, though. So you can see how for a discrete subset of student going there over UVA makes complete and total sense.

But CNU over UVA makes no sense at all.

Also, notwithstanding its higher acceptance rate, VCU is a much better school than CNU in its own right.

Do you have a cite?

It’s a given.

That’s not how this works. I’m sure a CNU student knows to cite courses. Oh well, next time don’t make claims without being able to back them up with a cite.

[Anonymous]

peer-reviewed? what is there to review? it’s simple tabulation from the colleges, just like the numbers released by each college in the cds regarding the middle sat range, demographics of students.

[Anonymous]

To each her own, but if I were in charge and couldn’t get my kid into UVA, W&M or Tech I’d go first with VCU, then with JMU maybe, and only then with CNU. VCU is a comprehensive university that offers just about everything and has a truly diverse student body and JMU is a lot of fun and has D1 sports. CNU has none of the above—and no one’s ever even heard of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To each her own, but if I were in charge and couldn’t get my kid into UVA, W&M or Tech I’d go first with VCU, then with JMU maybe, and only then with CNU. VCU is a comprehensive university that offers just about everything and has a truly diverse student body and JMU is a lot of fun and has D1 sports. CNU has none of the above—and no one’s ever even heard of it.

That’s not how this works.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To each her own, but if I were in charge and couldn’t get my kid into UVA, W&M or Tech I’d go first with VCU, then with JMU maybe, and only then with CNU. VCU is a comprehensive university that offers just about everything and has a truly diverse student body and JMU is a lot of fun and has D1 sports. CNU has none of the above—and no one’s ever even heard of it.

If you have any confidence whatsoever in the kid you've raised, you wouldn't care about the bolded.