Why is Toll still allowed to run age group champs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m assuming the event is staff is contracted. Can the meet directors just ask for her to be replaced with another contractor employee?

It’s some company called CSC. I think they are contracted by UMD, not the meet directors

Contemporary Services Corporation - csc-usa.com

Unless you've been living under a rock or a longtime recluse, you've seen them a million times before.

I’ve seen Centreville Swim Club a million times. But not Contemporary Services Corporation.

[Anonymous]

That’s an interesting perspective from a swimmer. My swimmer has the complete opposite. She said she sees her be awful to swimmers and parents every meet and it makes her upset to see her treat others so poorly. We value kindness and she sees her be unnecessarily cruel. She says she does it every meet and it really bothers her to witness it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That’s an interesting perspective from a swimmer. My swimmer has the complete opposite. She said she sees her be awful to swimmers and parents every meet and it makes her upset to see her treat others so poorly. We value kindness and she sees her be unnecessarily cruel. She says she does it every meet and it really bothers her to witness it.

I have officiated and timed at various UMd meets. I don’t discount the reports above, but I’ve never seen her be anything but kind. (In both roles, I have waited a long time in the holding area, sometimes 30+ minutes, so it seems I should have noticed the alleged poor behavior by now.) As such, the above posters who have a positive or neutral opinion about her — swimmers included — may have never seen the behavior reported in this thread.

[Anonymous]

A couple things.

Security at Maryland is the way it is because Maryland wants it that way. Maryland has significant liability risk when hosting events at the rec center because of the ability of non-students/members to gain access to the rest of the facility. One creep using a swim meet to sneak in and sexually assault a student would be a huge scandal. Not defending her attitude or tone, but that is what Maryland wants.

Second, for Championship meets, I believe PVS sets almost all the parameters for the meet, including how volunteers are requested, any spectator fees, etc. I believe the host club is really only there to execute. Unlike the holiday meets like KLI or the RMSC meet, where the teams are running the meet how they like.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A couple things.

Security at Maryland is the way it is because Maryland wants it that way. Maryland has significant liability risk when hosting events at the rec center because of the ability of non-students/members to gain access to the rest of the facility. One creep using a swim meet to sneak in and sexually assault a student would be a huge scandal. Not defending her attitude or tone, but that is what Maryland wants.

Second, for Championship meets, I believe PVS sets almost all the parameters for the meet, including how volunteers are requested, any spectator fees, etc. I believe the host club is really only there to execute. Unlike the holiday meets like KLI or the RMSC meet, where the teams are running the meet how they like.

Her behavior is the same for KLI, IMX and every other meet we’ve ever been to at UMD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A couple things.

Security at Maryland is the way it is because Maryland wants it that way. Maryland has significant liability risk when hosting events at the rec center because of the ability of non-students/members to gain access to the rest of the facility. One creep using a swim meet to sneak in and sexually assault a student would be a huge scandal. Not defending her attitude or tone, but that is what Maryland wants.

Second, for Championship meets, I believe PVS sets almost all the parameters for the meet, including how volunteers are requested, any spectator fees, etc. I believe the host club is really only there to execute. Unlike the holiday meets like KLI or the RMSC meet, where the teams are running the meet how they like.

Her behavior is the same for KLI, IMX and every other meet we’ve ever been to at UMD.

I’m aware. As I said, I think the University of Maryland sees that as a feature, not a bug.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A couple things.

Security at Maryland is the way it is because Maryland wants it that way. Maryland has significant liability risk when hosting events at the rec center because of the ability of non-students/members to gain access to the rest of the facility. One creep using a swim meet to sneak in and sexually assault a student would be a huge scandal. Not defending her attitude or tone, but that is what Maryland wants.

Second, for Championship meets, I believe PVS sets almost all the parameters for the meet, including how volunteers are requested, any spectator fees, etc. I believe the host club is really only there to execute. Unlike the holiday meets like KLI or the RMSC meet, where the teams are running the meet how they like.

Curious as to how this is different than any other college or rec center that hosts swim meets. Why is it unique to UMD?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A couple things.

Security at Maryland is the way it is because Maryland wants it that way. Maryland has significant liability risk when hosting events at the rec center because of the ability of non-students/members to gain access to the rest of the facility. One creep using a swim meet to sneak in and sexually assault a student would be a huge scandal. Not defending her attitude or tone, but that is what Maryland wants.

Second, for Championship meets, I believe PVS sets almost all the parameters for the meet, including how volunteers are requested, any spectator fees, etc. I believe the host club is really only there to execute. Unlike the holiday meets like KLI or the RMSC meet, where the teams are running the meet how they like.

Her behavior is the same for KLI, IMX and every other meet we’ve ever been to at UMD.

And yet I have worked every NCI, KLI, SC Champs, LC Champs, and a few Turkey Claus meets and have NEVER had or seen her treat anyone unprofessionally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m assuming the event is staff is contracted. Can the meet directors just ask for her to be replaced with another contractor employee?

It’s some company called CSC. I think they are contracted by UMD, not the meet directors

Contemporary Services Corporation - csc-usa.com

Unless you've been living under a rock or a longtime recluse, you've seen them a million times before.

I’ve seen Centreville Swim Club a million times. But not Contemporary Services Corporation.

You seem to be a bit of a bumpkin and need to get out more.

[Anonymous]

I’ve interacted w her over the past 10+ years and all I have learned is that she gives back whatever energy she gets from you. If you slow down, smile, and are basically polite and decent, so is she. If you are rude, hysterical, entitled, pushy- she will shut it straight down in no uncertain terms. She’s a good lesson for us all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve interacted w her over the past 10+ years and all I have learned is that she gives back whatever energy she gets from you. If you slow down, smile, and are basically polite and decent, so is she. If you are rude, hysterical, entitled, pushy- she will shut it straight down in no uncertain terms. She’s a good lesson for us all.

Yes, I'm sure that 10 year old thought deeply about the energy she was bringing after her encounter. Once she stopped crying, that is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve interacted w her over the past 10+ years and all I have learned is that she gives back whatever energy she gets from you. If you slow down, smile, and are basically polite and decent, so is she. If you are rude, hysterical, entitled, pushy- she will shut it straight down in no uncertain terms. She’s a good lesson for us all.

Yes, I'm sure that 10 year old thought deeply about the energy she was bringing after her encounter. Once she stopped crying, that is.

Seriously. I can’t believe people are defending a grown adult who treats little kids this way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve interacted w her over the past 10+ years and all I have learned is that she gives back whatever energy she gets from you. If you slow down, smile, and are basically polite and decent, so is she. If you are rude, hysterical, entitled, pushy- she will shut it straight down in no uncertain terms. She’s a good lesson for us all.

Yes, I'm sure that 10 year old thought deeply about the energy she was bringing after her encounter. Once she stopped crying, that is.

Seriously. I can’t believe people are defending a grown adult who treats little kids this way.

I can't believe we are still talking about this.