Why is Toll still allowed to run age group champs?

[Anonymous]

It's such a pain-in-the-a$$ to host one of these meets. Thanks, Toll, for doing it.

This truly reads as so bratty.

[Anonymous]

I think Toll did a good job hosting. The one thing I think could have made things run more smoothly (and there is nothing Toll could have done to prevent this), is UMD security could have started letting spectators in WAY earlier. Instead they made people wait until after 7. By that time the line was ridiculous. Of course, if they let us in any earlier security lady wouldn’t have been able to give her “this isn’t Walmart” speech (which, in case you don’t know, NO OUTSIDE FOOD OR DRINKS ARE ALLOWED INSIDE!!! IF YOU BRING FOOD INSIDE, YOU ****WILL****** THROW IT OUT!!!THIS ISNT WALMART!!!)

[Anonymous]

We talking about bag tags. Not a meet, not a meet, we talking about bag tags.

OP seriously chill, this has been one of the more smooth 14u champs meets so far in recent years.

[Anonymous]

My big problem with TOLL at this meet is that they assigned timers to each club based on participant count, and nobody signed up from certain clubs. They said they would pull the coaches to time, they did not. They asked, and asked, and asked the general public to time.

Stop begging, pulling on heartstrings, making me feel like a jerk because I won’t time today when I’m signed up to time tomorrow. Let the coaches reach out to their group of parents.

It’s not everybody’s problem, it’s team X’s problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My big problem with TOLL at this meet is that they assigned timers to each club based on participant count, and nobody signed up from certain clubs. They said they would pull the coaches to time, they did not. They asked, and asked, and asked the general public to time.

Stop begging, pulling on heartstrings, making me feel like a jerk because I won’t time today when I’m signed up to time tomorrow. Let the coaches reach out to their group of parents.

It’s not everybody’s problem, it’s team X’s problem.

Yes. Don't send out all caps emails with the plan, then throw the plan out and start guilting/begging right away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PVS made the decision on spectator fees. It was the same for last week. Maybe chill out a little and take a deep breath before throwing a club under the bus

It's not the fee itself, it's the prices being used to collect/verify the fee which is causing huge delays. Hopefully it went better for finals today.

I must have arrived this morning after the line was already gone. I walked in, paid $20 to one of two people taking payments by credit card, then went to the table and got the bracelet, took like 3 minutes max.

[Anonymous]

So very specific issues concerning PVS meets, plus possible suggestions for improvements if you have that, should be submitted to PVS BOD.

Send them an email. Ask that a discussion of the specific issues you identify, with possible suggested improvements if you have that, be discussed at their next available meeting, or at the next applicable committee meeting.

Keep sending polite emails as issues occur.

Look at the meeting minutes they post to see if the issues were discussed. If not, follow up politely.

Don’t expect changes to happen quickly.

If you can get other parents on your team to “sign” your emails, even better. Strength in numbers.

Venting on dcum won’t change anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My big problem with TOLL at this meet is that they assigned timers to each club based on participant count, and nobody signed up from certain clubs. They said they would pull the coaches to time, they did not. They asked, and asked, and asked the general public to time.

Stop begging, pulling on heartstrings, making me feel like a jerk because I won’t time today when I’m signed up to time tomorrow. Let the coaches reach out to their group of parents.

It’s not everybody’s problem, it’s team X’s problem.

Yes. Don't send out all caps emails with the plan, then throw the plan out and start guilting/begging right away.

Probably the only thing that would really get parents attention is not letting their kids swim if the timers for their team aren’t filled. Your team has two slots to fill to time. You don’t have the 2 timers. Your team’s kids don’t swim until your timers are at a block with a watch or a clipboard. Any kid that misses a swim because of this, misses their swim. They can’t make up swims later in the session or meet. They just forfeit that event. Timers would have to slide around to different blocks to time the kids whose parents did step up in the meantime. Watch what happens when the kids realize their team has 40 swimmers in a session and can’t get two parents to time. The problem will be solved with a quickness. The pressure to time needs to come from the kids, not the coaches or meet director.

Or let parents pay someone to time for them if they have to. I’ll time 3 hours for someone else’s team for $75. Not kidding. That’ll pay for most of a hoodie.

Please tell me what is wrong with this idea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My big problem with TOLL at this meet is that they assigned timers to each club based on participant count, and nobody signed up from certain clubs. They said they would pull the coaches to time, they did not. They asked, and asked, and asked the general public to time.

Stop begging, pulling on heartstrings, making me feel like a jerk because I won’t time today when I’m signed up to time tomorrow. Let the coaches reach out to their group of parents.

The same thing happened last weekend with Open champs. Clubs that don’t fill their slots shouldn’t be allowed to swim.

It’s not everybody’s problem, it’s team X’s problem.

[Anonymous]

^ The same thing happened last weekend with Open champs. Clubs that don’t fill their slots shouldn’t be allowed to swim

[Anonymous]

And at last season’s jr/sr
short a long course champs. They just have to start getting strict about it because it’s now a perpetual issue.

Anonymous wrote:^ The same thing happened last weekend with Open champs. Clubs that don’t fill their slots shouldn’t be allowed to swim

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My big problem with TOLL at this meet is that they assigned timers to each club based on participant count, and nobody signed up from certain clubs. They said they would pull the coaches to time, they did not. They asked, and asked, and asked the general public to time.

Stop begging, pulling on heartstrings, making me feel like a jerk because I won’t time today when I’m signed up to time tomorrow. Let the coaches reach out to their group of parents.

It’s not everybody’s problem, it’s team X’s problem.

Yes. Don't send out all caps emails with the plan, then throw the plan out and start guilting/begging right away.

Probably the only thing that would really get parents attention is not letting their kids swim if the timers for their team aren’t filled. Your team has two slots to fill to time. You don’t have the 2 timers. Your team’s kids don’t swim until your timers are at a block with a watch or a clipboard. Any kid that misses a swim because of this, misses their swim. They can’t make up swims later in the session or meet. They just forfeit that event. Timers would have to slide around to different blocks to time the kids whose parents did step up in the meantime. Watch what happens when the kids realize their team has 40 swimmers in a session and can’t get two parents to time. The problem will be solved with a quickness. The pressure to time needs to come from the kids, not the coaches or meet director.

Or let parents pay someone to time for them if they have to. I’ll time 3 hours for someone else’s team for $75. Not kidding. That’ll pay for most of a hoodie.

Please tell me what is wrong with this idea.

NP - I’m all for it. I timed at every meet my kids swam during their first year of club, before I became certified at S&T. Then I officiated at every meet. If every family volunteered at least ONCE per season, this would not be a problem. The number of parents who never volunteer is staggering. I have zero patience for them.

[Anonymous]

Can high schoolers time for SSL hours?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think Toll did a good job hosting. The one thing I think could have made things run more smoothly (and there is nothing Toll could have done to prevent this), is UMD security could have started letting spectators in WAY earlier. Instead they made people wait until after 7. By that time the line was ridiculous. Of course, if they let us in any earlier security lady wouldn’t have been able to give her “this isn’t Walmart” speech (which, in case you don’t know, NO OUTSIDE FOOD OR DRINKS ARE ALLOWED INSIDE!!! IF YOU BRING FOOD INSIDE, YOU ****WILL****** THROW IT OUT!!!THIS ISNT WALMART!!!)

Some of the UMD Security folks are always on ridiculous power trips. It’s so bad it makes me hate coming here (along with the parking situation). Many are super chill and go along to get along and just do their jobs and then you have a handful who I think missed their calling to be ICE agents. No reason to treat parents with such contempt and distain.

[Anonymous]

Why are they screaming for timers when only two spots are empty and the teams are listed? (FXFX-boys and SDS-girls)