Neighbor's Dog In Our Yard

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fence your property.

OP here.

No. It's 41 acres. We aren't spending 100k to put up a fence to keep out trespassers. I'll shoot their dog first. And no, they do not clean up after their dog.

I’m sure you’re just being over the top but threatening their dog makes you sound unstable. They 100% should not be letting it roam but it’s an owner issue not reason to kill the dog.

Will you also be killing the deer, fox, rabbits, and every other animal that use the bathroom on your 41 acres?

Maybe a simple conversation with them about the dog would resolve the issue.

Do you understand the difference between wild animals and domesticated pets?

Very much so. Also enough to know that this is a problem with the dog’s owner and not something a decent person would kill a dog over. The owners should keep their dog off of OP’s property, without a doubt.

Also, poop is poop. Truly can’t imagine the actual dog poop is more of a problem than the poop of wild animals on a 41 acre piece of property OP uses occasionally.

The owners are definitely wrong but threatening someone’s pet is a sign of being unstable.

Completely false. Domesticated dog poo is full of all sorts of dangerous pathogens, bacteria, and pathogens not found in the feces of wild animals. This is especially true in an agricultural environment.

I'm not going to waste my time explaining how, but educate yourself so you dont look so foolish the next time you make demonstrably false statements.

Why would any of that be relevant to OP? They don't have an agricultural property, they're hardly there enough to have a vegetable garden.

How do you know it's not agricultural and that they don't grow food? Agriculture is the number one land classification in that county. They could grow low effort cover crops that require zero effort or high risk/high reward rain fed agricultural products. They could grow tomatoes on a drip system. And on and on. You know you don't have to be standing in a field every day to be a successful farmer, right? OP said they were there a lot more during the growing season. I think you just like to argue a lot but happen to be terrible at it.

Uh, because they're there so few times a year?

[Anonymous]

This thread has gotten so out of control. There’s the guy detailing the scientific difference between dog poop and deer poop, the one who acts as if OP is growing the nation’s agriculture supply and must have the most pristine growing soil, and the wild Wild West culture of allegedly shooting dogs for sport.

Why can’t OP simply ask the neighbor to keep the dog on their own multi acre property?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does this actually cause a problem for you or is this a petty gripe? I can’t imagine on that large of a property that a little dog poop would be such an issue. So, you might just need to check your ego and the part of you that feels disrespected, and let it go of it. It is an emotional reaction.

Is tracking dog shit into your house and spending 30 minutes cleaning up every time you visit your country house a problem? Is trespassing a problem? Is this really your question???

[Anonymous]

If 41 acres in not fenced, I don't see anyone could expect animals to be kept off the property. If there is a designated "yard" area within the 41 acres, then fence that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Get a fence. But I'd let go of them trespassing if they're just going over to get their dog.

No, he does NOT need a $$$ fence. The bad neighbors with the dog need to buy a fence.

Correct. One person's laziness and entitlement does not become another person's 5 figure obligation.

For all of you clutching pearls over a dog getting shot. Tell me you don't know diddily about rural life without telling me you don't know diddily. Real country people- not some K lobbyist retirees playing homesteader in rich as hell Rappahannock- will shoot dogs all day long because they harass, harm and kill valuable items like chickens, game birds, crops, cows etc. Like, theyd expect their dog to get shot so they contain them before it happens. Or at least the decent people do.

Shooting a dog because it's killing your chickens is not the same thing as shooting a dog because it crapped in the woods. Do you even understand that?

Did you miss the words "harass", "harm", "crops", and "game birds" on purpose or are you illiterate?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fence your property.

OP here.

No. It's 41 acres. We aren't spending 100k to put up a fence to keep out trespassers. I'll shoot their dog first. And no, they do not clean up after their dog.

I’m sure you’re just being over the top but threatening their dog makes you sound unstable. They 100% should not be letting it roam but it’s an owner issue not reason to kill the dog.

Will you also be killing the deer, fox, rabbits, and every other animal that use the bathroom on your 41 acres?

Maybe a simple conversation with them about the dog would resolve the issue.

Do you understand the difference between wild animals and domesticated pets?

Very much so. Also enough to know that this is a problem with the dog’s owner and not something a decent person would kill a dog over. The owners should keep their dog off of OP’s property, without a doubt.

Also, poop is poop. Truly can’t imagine the actual dog poop is more of a problem than the poop of wild animals on a 41 acre piece of property OP uses occasionally.

The owners are definitely wrong but threatening someone’s pet is a sign of being unstable.

Completely false. Domesticated dog poo is full of all sorts of dangerous pathogens, bacteria, and pathogens not found in the feces of wild animals. This is especially true in an agricultural environment.

I'm not going to waste my time explaining how, but educate yourself so you dont look so foolish the next time you make demonstrably false statements.

Why would any of that be relevant to OP? They don't have an agricultural property, they're hardly there enough to have a vegetable garden.

How do you know it's not agricultural and that they don't grow food? Agriculture is the number one land classification in that county. They could grow low effort cover crops that require zero effort or high risk/high reward rain fed agricultural products. They could grow tomatoes on a drip system. And on and on. You know you don't have to be standing in a field every day to be a successful farmer, right? OP said they were there a lot more during the growing season. I think you just like to argue a lot but happen to be terrible at it.

Uh, because they're there so few times a year?

OP stated they are very frequently there during the growing season

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does this actually cause a problem for you or is this a petty gripe? I can’t imagine on that large of a property that a little dog poop would be such an issue. So, you might just need to check your ego and the part of you that feels disrespected, and let it go of it. It is an emotional reaction.

Is tracking dog shit into your house and spending 30 minutes cleaning up every time you visit your country house a problem? Is trespassing a problem? Is this really your question???

So you’re saying that the very few times a year OP visits their rural home that they can’t avoid stepping in one pile of dog poop from their car to the front door? Quite a stretch.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does this actually cause a problem for you or is this a petty gripe? I can’t imagine on that large of a property that a little dog poop would be such an issue. So, you might just need to check your ego and the part of you that feels disrespected, and let it go of it. It is an emotional reaction.

Is tracking dog shit into your house and spending 30 minutes cleaning up every time you visit your country house a problem? Is trespassing a problem? Is this really your question???

So you’re saying that the very few times a year OP visits their rural home that they can’t avoid stepping in one pile of dog poop from their car to the front door? Quite a stretch.

Why do you keep stating falsities like they are there very few times a year? OP stated they are there infrequently during the winter, but very frequently during the spring, summer and fall. Do you need to lie to make a point?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread has gotten so out of control. There’s the guy detailing the scientific difference between dog poop and deer poop, the one who acts as if OP is growing the nation’s agriculture supply and must have the most pristine growing soil, and the wild Wild West culture of allegedly shooting dogs for sport.

Why can’t OP simply ask the neighbor to keep the dog on their own multi acre property?

Because OP is a troll and none of this is real.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Two former stupid neighbors used to let their stupid dogs roam my 2 acre yard to poop and bark on me. You know what stopped them? Police, a restraining order, and then a fence.

That’s different. You have a small yard and aren’t on some sort of 15+ acre wooded lot

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread has gotten so out of control. There’s the guy detailing the scientific difference between dog poop and deer poop, the one who acts as if OP is growing the nation’s agriculture supply and must have the most pristine growing soil, and the wild Wild West culture of allegedly shooting dogs for sport.

Why can’t OP simply ask the neighbor to keep the dog on their own multi acre property?

Because

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fence your property.

OP here.

No. It's 41 acres. We aren't spending 100k to put up a fence to keep out trespassers. I'll shoot their dog first. And no, they do not clean up after their dog.

I’m sure you’re just being over the top but threatening their dog makes you sound unstable. They 100% should not be letting it roam but it’s an owner issue not reason to kill the dog.

Will you also be killing the deer, fox, rabbits, and every other animal that use the bathroom on your 41 acres?

Maybe a simple conversation with them about the dog would resolve the issue.

Do you understand the difference between wild animals and domesticated pets?

Very much so. Also enough to know that this is a problem with the dog’s owner and not something a decent person would kill a dog over. The owners should keep their dog off of OP’s property, without a doubt.

Also, poop is poop. Truly can’t imagine the actual dog poop is more of a problem than the poop of wild animals on a 41 acre piece of property OP uses occasionally.

The owners are definitely wrong but threatening someone’s pet is a sign of being unstable.

Apparently "poop is not poop":

"Hazards of Dog Feces
Health Risks: Contains harmful bacteria and parasites (E. coli, salmonella, hookworms, roundworms, Giardia) that can survive in the soil for years and infect humans and other animals.

Environmental Impact: High in phosphorus and nitrogen, which, when washed into waterways by rain, causes algae blooms, kills fish, and reduces water quality.

Soil Damage: Due to a high-protein diet, dog waste is acidic and can burn grass and kill vegetation, whereas herbivore manure often fertilizes soil.

Disease Transmission: Dogs can pass on antibiotic-resistant bacteria, such as E. faecium and E. faecalis, into the environment.

Hazards of Wild Animal Feces

Natural Decomposition: Wildlife feces are a natural part of the ecosystem, decomposing quickly to return nutrients to the soil, rather than overloading it.

Limited Impact: Wild animal feces do not contain high levels of nutrients or contaminants like dogs, which are not considered a "natural" part of the ecosystem in high concentrations. - Google

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fence your property.

OP here.

No. It's 41 acres. We aren't spending 100k to put up a fence to keep out trespassers. I'll shoot their dog first. And no, they do not clean up after their dog.

I’m sure you’re just being over the top but threatening their dog makes you sound unstable. They 100% should not be letting it roam but it’s an owner issue not reason to kill the dog.

Will you also be killing the deer, fox, rabbits, and every other animal that use the bathroom on your 41 acres?

Maybe a simple conversation with them about the dog would resolve the issue.

Do you understand the difference between wild animals and domesticated pets?

Very much so. Also enough to know that this is a problem with the dog’s owner and not something a decent person would kill a dog over. The owners should keep their dog off of OP’s property, without a doubt.

Also, poop is poop. Truly can’t imagine the actual dog poop is more of a problem than the poop of wild animals on a 41 acre piece of property OP uses occasionally.

The owners are definitely wrong but threatening someone’s pet is a sign of being unstable.

Apparently "poop is not poop":

"Hazards of Dog Feces
Health Risks: Contains harmful bacteria and parasites (E. coli, salmonella, hookworms, roundworms, Giardia) that can survive in the soil for years and infect humans and other animals.

Environmental Impact: High in phosphorus and nitrogen, which, when washed into waterways by rain, causes algae blooms, kills fish, and reduces water quality.

Soil Damage: Due to a high-protein diet, dog waste is acidic and can burn grass and kill vegetation, whereas herbivore manure often fertilizes soil.

Disease Transmission: Dogs can pass on antibiotic-resistant bacteria, such as E. faecium and E. faecalis, into the environment.

Hazards of Wild Animal Feces

Natural Decomposition: Wildlife feces are a natural part of the ecosystem, decomposing quickly to return nutrients to the soil, rather than overloading it.

Limited Impact: Wild animal feces do not contain high levels of nutrients or contaminants like dogs, which are not considered a "natural" part of the ecosystem in high concentrations. - Google

If you ask Google nicely, it says:


Yes, wildlife feces frequently contain
E. coli, Salmonella, hookworms, roundworms, and Giardia, which are zoonotic pathogens capable of causing illness in humans and pets. These pathogens can contaminate soil and water, with parasites like raccoon roundworm eggs remaining in the environment for years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fence your property.

OP here.

No. It's 41 acres. We aren't spending 100k to put up a fence to keep out trespassers. I'll shoot their dog first. And no, they do not clean up after their dog.

I’m sure you’re just being over the top but threatening their dog makes you sound unstable. They 100% should not be letting it roam but it’s an owner issue not reason to kill the dog.

Will you also be killing the deer, fox, rabbits, and every other animal that use the bathroom on your 41 acres?

Maybe a simple conversation with them about the dog would resolve the issue.

Do you understand the difference between wild animals and domesticated pets?

Very much so. Also enough to know that this is a problem with the dog’s owner and not something a decent person would kill a dog over. The owners should keep their dog off of OP’s property, without a doubt.

Also, poop is poop. Truly can’t imagine the actual dog poop is more of a problem than the poop of wild animals on a 41 acre piece of property OP uses occasionally.

The owners are definitely wrong but threatening someone’s pet is a sign of being unstable.

Apparently "poop is not poop":

"Hazards of Dog Feces
Health Risks: Contains harmful bacteria and parasites (E. coli, salmonella, hookworms, roundworms, Giardia) that can survive in the soil for years and infect humans and other animals.

Environmental Impact: High in phosphorus and nitrogen, which, when washed into waterways by rain, causes algae blooms, kills fish, and reduces water quality.

Soil Damage: Due to a high-protein diet, dog waste is acidic and can burn grass and kill vegetation, whereas herbivore manure often fertilizes soil.

Disease Transmission: Dogs can pass on antibiotic-resistant bacteria, such as E. faecium and E. faecalis, into the environment.

Hazards of Wild Animal Feces

Natural Decomposition: Wildlife feces are a natural part of the ecosystem, decomposing quickly to return nutrients to the soil, rather than overloading it.

Limited Impact: Wild animal feces do not contain high levels of nutrients or contaminants like dogs, which are not considered a "natural" part of the ecosystem in high concentrations. - Google

This is totally wrong. Here is just one example of hazards related to feral cat feces in agricultural settings.

https://www.canr.msu.edu/news/risks-posed-by-cats-on-produce-farms

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fence your property.

OP here.

No. It's 41 acres. We aren't spending 100k to put up a fence to keep out trespassers. I'll shoot their dog first. And no, they do not clean up after their dog.

I’m sure you’re just being over the top but threatening their dog makes you sound unstable. They 100% should not be letting it roam but it’s an owner issue not reason to kill the dog.

Will you also be killing the deer, fox, rabbits, and every other animal that use the bathroom on your 41 acres?

Maybe a simple conversation with them about the dog would resolve the issue.

Do you understand the difference between wild animals and domesticated pets?

Very much so. Also enough to know that this is a problem with the dog’s owner and not something a decent person would kill a dog over. The owners should keep their dog off of OP’s property, without a doubt.

Also, poop is poop. Truly can’t imagine the actual dog poop is more of a problem than the poop of wild animals on a 41 acre piece of property OP uses occasionally.

The owners are definitely wrong but threatening someone’s pet is a sign of being unstable.

Apparently "poop is not poop":

"Hazards of Dog Feces
Health Risks: Contains harmful bacteria and parasites (E. coli, salmonella, hookworms, roundworms, Giardia) that can survive in the soil for years and infect humans and other animals.

Environmental Impact: High in phosphorus and nitrogen, which, when washed into waterways by rain, causes algae blooms, kills fish, and reduces water quality.

Soil Damage: Due to a high-protein diet, dog waste is acidic and can burn grass and kill vegetation, whereas herbivore manure often fertilizes soil.

Disease Transmission: Dogs can pass on antibiotic-resistant bacteria, such as E. faecium and E. faecalis, into the environment.

Hazards of Wild Animal Feces

Natural Decomposition: Wildlife feces are a natural part of the ecosystem, decomposing quickly to return nutrients to the soil, rather than overloading it.

Limited Impact: Wild animal feces do not contain high levels of nutrients or contaminants like dogs, which are not considered a "natural" part of the ecosystem in high concentrations. - Google

+1 Correct. There is a reason dogs are prohibited from many parks and wildlife areas.