Neighbor's Dog In Our Yard

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fence your property.

OP here.

No. It's 41 acres. We aren't spending 100k to put up a fence to keep out trespassers. I'll shoot their dog first. And no, they do not clean up after their dog.

I’m sure you’re just being over the top but threatening their dog makes you sound unstable. They 100% should not be letting it roam but it’s an owner issue not reason to kill the dog.

Will you also be killing the deer, fox, rabbits, and every other animal that use the bathroom on your 41 acres?

Maybe a simple conversation with them about the dog would resolve the issue.

Do you understand the difference between wild animals and domesticated pets?

Very much so. Also enough to know that this is a problem with the dog’s owner and not something a decent person would kill a dog over. The owners should keep their dog off of OP’s property, without a doubt.

Also, poop is poop. Truly can’t imagine the actual dog poop is more of a problem than the poop of wild animals on a 41 acre piece of property OP uses occasionally.

The owners are definitely wrong but threatening someone’s pet is a sign of being unstable.

Apparently "poop is not poop":

"Hazards of Dog Feces
Health Risks: Contains harmful bacteria and parasites (E. coli, salmonella, hookworms, roundworms, Giardia) that can survive in the soil for years and infect humans and other animals.

Environmental Impact: High in phosphorus and nitrogen, which, when washed into waterways by rain, causes algae blooms, kills fish, and reduces water quality.

Soil Damage: Due to a high-protein diet, dog waste is acidic and can burn grass and kill vegetation, whereas herbivore manure often fertilizes soil.

Disease Transmission: Dogs can pass on antibiotic-resistant bacteria, such as E. faecium and E. faecalis, into the environment.

Hazards of Wild Animal Feces

Natural Decomposition: Wildlife feces are a natural part of the ecosystem, decomposing quickly to return nutrients to the soil, rather than overloading it.

Limited Impact: Wild animal feces do not contain high levels of nutrients or contaminants like dogs, which are not considered a "natural" part of the ecosystem in high concentrations. - Google

+1 Correct. There is a reason dogs are prohibited from many parks and wildlife areas.

Can you name any of these many parks?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does this actually cause a problem for you or is this a petty gripe? I can’t imagine on that large of a property that a little dog poop would be such an issue. So, you might just need to check your ego and the part of you that feels disrespected, and let it go of it. It is an emotional reaction.

Is tracking dog shit into your house and spending 30 minutes cleaning up every time you visit your country house a problem? Is trespassing a problem? Is this really your question???

The question was “does this actually cause a problem for you” and yes that is really my question. Thanks.

[Anonymous]

People letting this slide are weird. They're purposely having the dog shit on someone else's acreage because they don't want the shit on their massive acreage. If shit is no big deal, let your dog shit all over your grass.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does this actually cause a problem for you or is this a petty gripe? I can’t imagine on that large of a property that a little dog poop would be such an issue. So, you might just need to check your ego and the part of you that feels disrespected, and let it go of it. It is an emotional reaction.

Is tracking dog shit into your house and spending 30 minutes cleaning up every time you visit your country house a problem? Is trespassing a problem? Is this really your question???

The question was “does this actually cause a problem for you” and yes that is really my question. Thanks.

So to be clear- you don't consider cleaning up dogshit from someone else's dog to be a problem. Glad to have stablished how disingenuous you are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does this actually cause a problem for you or is this a petty gripe? I can’t imagine on that large of a property that a little dog poop would be such an issue. So, you might just need to check your ego and the part of you that feels disrespected, and let it go of it. It is an emotional reaction.

Is tracking dog shit into your house and spending 30 minutes cleaning up every time you visit your country house a problem? Is trespassing a problem? Is this really your question???

The question was “does this actually cause a problem for you” and yes that is really my question. Thanks.

Dogs don't shit in the deep brush, they shit on the same trails and manicured lawn...over and over and over. Sometimes 3 big shits a day. Do the math on how long it takes for your trails and manicured acreage to be full of shit. You want to step barefoot in that? You want your own dogs constantly sniffing other dog's shit? It's a-hole anti-social behavior to do this to your neighbor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People letting this slide are weird. They're purposely having the dog shit on someone else's acreage because they don't want the shit on their massive acreage. If shit is no big deal, let your dog shit all over your grass.

It's one or two trolls. I've already emailed Jeff and asked that they be IP banned. This forum loses all utility if its just a bunch of sock puppets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People letting this slide are weird. They're purposely having the dog shit on someone else's acreage because they don't want the shit on their massive acreage. If shit is no big deal, let your dog shit all over your grass.

It's one or two trolls. I've already emailed Jeff and asked that they be IP banned. This forum loses all utility if its just a bunch of sock puppets.

You think people disagreeing about dog shit is a banable offense?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People letting this slide are weird. They're purposely having the dog shit on someone else's acreage because they don't want the shit on their massive acreage. If shit is no big deal, let your dog shit all over your grass.

It's one or two trolls. I've already emailed Jeff and asked that they be IP banned. This forum loses all utility if its just a bunch of sock puppets.

You think people disagreeing about dog shit is a banable offense?

You'll find out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have 10 acres in rural VA. The animals that poop on my property daily include: deer, rabbits, birds, wild turkeys, coyotes, foxes, squirrels, groundhogs, voles, and random barn cats belonging to my neighbors.

You have 41 acres and are worked up about a little dog poop? I mean, sure. Die on that hill.

Yes, but the above mentioned scat is small.
If the dog is large, the poop is correspondingly so.

[Anonymous]

It’s 40 ac OP. Do you go out looking for dog sh*t? Is that your hobby?

[Anonymous]

My in-laws have a summer place on the Rappahannock. The neighbors sometimes let their dog run on the property. The worsr offender was my BIL who would bring his dog and let the dog poop all over the yard. BIL would become surly when told his dog pooped here or there. Thankfully that dog disappeared along with the divorce.
It is a thing down there for people to let their dogs run unleashed around the paved roadway. It is also a thing down there for dogs to die from car accidents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fence your property.

OP here.

No. It's 41 acres. We aren't spending 100k to put up a fence to keep out trespassers. I'll shoot their dog first. And no, they do not clean up after their dog.

I’m sure you’re just being over the top but threatening their dog makes you sound unstable. They 100% should not be letting it roam but it’s an owner issue not reason to kill the dog.

Will you also be killing the deer, fox, rabbits, and every other animal that use the bathroom on your 41 acres?

Maybe a simple conversation with them about the dog would resolve the issue.

Do you understand the difference between wild animals and domesticated pets?

Very much so. Also enough to know that this is a problem with the dog’s owner and not something a decent person would kill a dog over. The owners should keep their dog off of OP’s property, without a doubt.

Also, poop is poop. Truly can’t imagine the actual dog poop is more of a problem than the poop of wild animals on a 41 acre piece of property OP uses occasionally.

The owners are definitely wrong but threatening someone’s pet is a sign of being unstable.

Apparently "poop is not poop":

"Hazards of Dog Feces
Health Risks: Contains harmful bacteria and parasites (E. coli, salmonella, hookworms, roundworms, Giardia) that can survive in the soil for years and infect humans and other animals.

Environmental Impact: High in phosphorus and nitrogen, which, when washed into waterways by rain, causes algae blooms, kills fish, and reduces water quality.

Soil Damage: Due to a high-protein diet, dog waste is acidic and can burn grass and kill vegetation, whereas herbivore manure often fertilizes soil.

Disease Transmission: Dogs can pass on antibiotic-resistant bacteria, such as E. faecium and E. faecalis, into the environment.

Hazards of Wild Animal Feces

Natural Decomposition: Wildlife feces are a natural part of the ecosystem, decomposing quickly to return nutrients to the soil, rather than overloading it.

Limited Impact: Wild animal feces do not contain high levels of nutrients or contaminants like dogs, which are not considered a "natural" part of the ecosystem in high concentrations. - Google

+1 Correct. There is a reason dogs are prohibited from many parks and wildlife areas.

Can you name any of these many parks?

Uhh, yeah. Off the top of my head:

Glacier National Park
Rocky Mountain National Park
Yellowstone National Park
Mount Rainier National Park
Mount Hood National Park
Dry Tortugas
Isle Royale National Park
Channel Islands National Park
Arches National Park
Big Bend National Park
Canyonland National Park
Yosemite National Park
.......

[Anonymous]

I would say something to them firmly and respectfully the first time. Are there leash laws where you are? If so, remind them. The next time put it in writing. We have entitled older neighbors who cause a lot of drama in other ways and they who constantly let their dog poop right on the border of our land and HOA land. I can't tell them not to on HOA land, but when I catch it, I stand there and watch to make sure it gets cleaned up. I also have needed to remind them multiple times of leash laws. Ever since I started speaking up firmly, but respectfully, they stopped asking for favors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would say something to them firmly and respectfully the first time. Are there leash laws where you are? If so, remind them. The next time put it in writing. We have entitled older neighbors who cause a lot of drama in other ways and they who constantly let their dog poop right on the border of our land and HOA land. I can't tell them not to on HOA land, but when I catch it, I stand there and watch to make sure it gets cleaned up. I also have needed to remind them multiple times of leash laws. Ever since I started speaking up firmly, but respectfully, they stopped asking for favors.

So I just looked up leash laws for the county and they're pretty interesting, basically the opposite of a leash law. The regs are written with the underlying assumption dogs will be pretty free roaming and can go onto anyone's property at any time. If you don't want this, you can petition the county for banned dog exemption (for a specific dog) after which they can be fined $150 for each violation. You are also required to clearly mark and define your property to make it clear to the owner where your property starts and ends. That would be a lot on 41 acres. You can shoot a dog only if actively in the act of killing livestock.

Just ask the neighbors to pick it up if they see it, but this is clearly just how it goes out there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fence your property.

OP here.

No. It's 41 acres. We aren't spending 100k to put up a fence to keep out trespassers. I'll shoot their dog first. And no, they do not clean up after their dog.

I’m sure you’re just being over the top but threatening their dog makes you sound unstable. They 100% should not be letting it roam but it’s an owner issue not reason to kill the dog.

Will you also be killing the deer, fox, rabbits, and every other animal that use the bathroom on your 41 acres?

Maybe a simple conversation with them about the dog would resolve the issue.

Do you understand the difference between wild animals and domesticated pets?

Very much so. Also enough to know that this is a problem with the dog’s owner and not something a decent person would kill a dog over. The owners should keep their dog off of OP’s property, without a doubt.

Also, poop is poop. Truly can’t imagine the actual dog poop is more of a problem than the poop of wild animals on a 41 acre piece of property OP uses occasionally.

The owners are definitely wrong but threatening someone’s pet is a sign of being unstable.

Apparently "poop is not poop":

"Hazards of Dog Feces
Health Risks: Contains harmful bacteria and parasites (E. coli, salmonella, hookworms, roundworms, Giardia) that can survive in the soil for years and infect humans and other animals.

Environmental Impact: High in phosphorus and nitrogen, which, when washed into waterways by rain, causes algae blooms, kills fish, and reduces water quality.

Soil Damage: Due to a high-protein diet, dog waste is acidic and can burn grass and kill vegetation, whereas herbivore manure often fertilizes soil.

Disease Transmission: Dogs can pass on antibiotic-resistant bacteria, such as E. faecium and E. faecalis, into the environment.

Hazards of Wild Animal Feces

Natural Decomposition: Wildlife feces are a natural part of the ecosystem, decomposing quickly to return nutrients to the soil, rather than overloading it.

Limited Impact: Wild animal feces do not contain high levels of nutrients or contaminants like dogs, which are not considered a "natural" part of the ecosystem in high concentrations. - Google

+1 Correct. There is a reason dogs are prohibited from many parks and wildlife areas.

Can you name any of these many parks?

Uhh, yeah. Off the top of my head:

Glacier National Park
Rocky Mountain National Park
Yellowstone National Park
Mount Rainier National Park
Mount Hood National Park
Dry Tortugas
Isle Royale National Park
Channel Islands National Park
Arches National Park
Big Bend National Park
Canyonland National Park
Yosemite National Park
.......

Checking Yellowstone, https://www.nps.gov/yell/planyourvisit/pets.htm

So, now we need to get a dictionary and agree what prohibited means before I bother with any more of your drivel.