Neighbor's Dog In Our Yard

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, you are a petty man. As petty as it gets.

+1. Time for some introspection.

[Anonymous]

I see three options.

1. Shoot the dog.
2. Trap the dog and relocate 100 miles away.
3. Place poison stations where the dog shits.

I'd probably go with number 2 and just feign ignorance if they ever ask you about it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fence your property.

OP here.

No. It's 41 acres. We aren't spending 100k to put up a fence to keep out trespassers. I'll shoot their dog first. And no, they do not clean up after their dog.

I’m sure you’re just being over the top but threatening their dog makes you sound unstable. They 100% should not be letting it roam but it’s an owner issue not reason to kill the dog.

Will you also be killing the deer, fox, rabbits, and every other animal that use the bathroom on your 41 acres?

Maybe a simple conversation with them about the dog would resolve the issue.

Do you understand the difference between wild animals and domesticated pets?

Very much so. Also enough to know that this is a problem with the dog’s owner and not something a decent person would kill a dog over. The owners should keep their dog off of OP’s property, without a doubt.

Also, poop is poop. Truly can’t imagine the actual dog poop is more of a problem than the poop of wild animals on a 41 acre piece of property OP uses occasionally.

The owners are definitely wrong but threatening someone’s pet is a sign of being unstable.

Apparently "poop is not poop":

"Hazards of Dog Feces
Health Risks: Contains harmful bacteria and parasites (E. coli, salmonella, hookworms, roundworms, Giardia) that can survive in the soil for years and infect humans and other animals.

Environmental Impact: High in phosphorus and nitrogen, which, when washed into waterways by rain, causes algae blooms, kills fish, and reduces water quality.

Soil Damage: Due to a high-protein diet, dog waste is acidic and can burn grass and kill vegetation, whereas herbivore manure often fertilizes soil.

Disease Transmission: Dogs can pass on antibiotic-resistant bacteria, such as E. faecium and E. faecalis, into the environment.

Hazards of Wild Animal Feces

Natural Decomposition: Wildlife feces are a natural part of the ecosystem, decomposing quickly to return nutrients to the soil, rather than overloading it.

Limited Impact: Wild animal feces do not contain high levels of nutrients or contaminants like dogs, which are not considered a "natural" part of the ecosystem in high concentrations. - Google

Where did this answer come from? State your source so the rest of us know not to use it

Google AI.

[Anonymous]

Okay, this is a 10 page thread and I haven’t read the responses, so maybe by now this is irrelevant…but I would never think of my neighbors as “trespassers” when they’re on my property to retrieve their dog. That’s just not my world view. But they need to control their dog and absolutely remove its poop from your yard, if at all possible (perhaps it would he difficult to find it).

You are entirely justified in asking them to take measures to prevent your dog from entering your yard. “Bob, we’ve been noticing Fido in our yard on our cameras, and we’re finding quite a bit of waste on our property. May we kindly ask that you take steps to prevent this from happening? Thank you”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Okay, this is a 10 page thread and I haven’t read the responses, so maybe by now this is irrelevant…but I would never think of my neighbors as “trespassers” when they’re on my property to retrieve their dog. That’s just not my world view. But they need to control their dog and absolutely remove its poop from your yard, if at all possible (perhaps it would he difficult to find it).

You are entirely justified in asking them to take measures to prevent your dog from entering your yard. “Bob, we’ve been noticing Fido in our yard on our cameras, and we’re finding quite a bit of waste on our property. May we kindly ask that you take steps to prevent this from happening? Thank you”

^prevent *their dog

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I see three options.

1. Shoot the dog.
2. Trap the dog and relocate 100 miles away.
3. Place poison stations where the dog shits.

I'd probably go with number 2 and just feign ignorance if they ever ask you about it.

You truly should either be arrested or seek counseling and preferably both.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I see three options.

1. Shoot the dog.
2. Trap the dog and relocate 100 miles away.
3. Place poison stations where the dog shits.

I'd probably go with number 2 and just feign ignorance if they ever ask you about it.

If you shoot a dog get ready to get shot.
Live by the sword and you die by the sword.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fence your property.

OP here.

No. It's 41 acres. We aren't spending 100k to put up a fence to keep out trespassers. I'll shoot their dog first. And no, they do not clean up after their dog.

I’m sure you’re just being over the top but threatening their dog makes you sound unstable. They 100% should not be letting it roam but it’s an owner issue not reason to kill the dog.

Will you also be killing the deer, fox, rabbits, and every other animal that use the bathroom on your 41 acres?

Maybe a simple conversation with them about the dog would resolve the issue.

Do you understand the difference between wild animals and domesticated pets?

Very much so. Also enough to know that this is a problem with the dog’s owner and not something a decent person would kill a dog over. The owners should keep their dog off of OP’s property, without a doubt.

Also, poop is poop. Truly can’t imagine the actual dog poop is more of a problem than the poop of wild animals on a 41 acre piece of property OP uses occasionally.

The owners are definitely wrong but threatening someone’s pet is a sign of being unstable.

Apparently "poop is not poop":

"Hazards of Dog Feces
Health Risks: Contains harmful bacteria and parasites (E. coli, salmonella, hookworms, roundworms, Giardia) that can survive in the soil for years and infect humans and other animals.

Environmental Impact: High in phosphorus and nitrogen, which, when washed into waterways by rain, causes algae blooms, kills fish, and reduces water quality.

Soil Damage: Due to a high-protein diet, dog waste is acidic and can burn grass and kill vegetation, whereas herbivore manure often fertilizes soil.

Disease Transmission: Dogs can pass on antibiotic-resistant bacteria, such as E. faecium and E. faecalis, into the environment.

Hazards of Wild Animal Feces

Natural Decomposition: Wildlife feces are a natural part of the ecosystem, decomposing quickly to return nutrients to the soil, rather than overloading it.

Limited Impact: Wild animal feces do not contain high levels of nutrients or contaminants like dogs, which are not considered a "natural" part of the ecosystem in high concentrations. - Google

+1 Correct. There is a reason dogs are prohibited from many parks and wildlife areas.

Can you name any of these many parks?

Uhh, yeah. Off the top of my head:

Glacier National Park
Rocky Mountain National Park
Yellowstone National Park
Mount Rainier National Park
Mount Hood National Park
Dry Tortugas
Isle Royale National Park
Channel Islands National Park
Arches National Park
Big Bend National Park
Canyonland National Park
Yosemite National Park
.......

Checking Yellowstone, https://www.nps.gov/yell/planyourvisit/pets.htm

So, now we need to get a dictionary and agree what prohibited means before I bother with any more of your drivel.

I love it when morons don't even read their own links.

Pets are not allowed on boardwalks, hiking trails, in the backcountry, or in thermal areas. Carried pets (in arms, strollers, backpacks, carriers, etc.) are also not allowed in these areas.

I read it. You ignored:

Pets are only allowed in developed areas and must stay within 100 feet (30.5 meters) of roads, parking areas, and campgrounds.

That doesn't sound like prohibited. Of course, you are free to use whatever crazy dictionary you have.

DP. I view that as prohibited, clear as day. I mean, it explicitly states dogs may not be on the trails or in the backcountry. If a ranger caught you with a dog on the trails or the backcountry, they'd absolutely evict you from the park and probably issue you a fine. Because you were caught doing something.... that was prohibited.

I get that you are a troll and being a contrarian in that pursuit, but I've been on trails in the Shennandoah National Park (Bearfence) where dogs are strictly prohibited . Ive personally witnessed rangers turning back people with dogs. It's a clear cut safety situation where dogs are a genuine danger. So, yeah, dogs are prohibited from lots of parks.

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Anonymous wrote:Fence your property.

OP here.

No. It's 41 acres. We aren't spending 100k to put up a fence to keep out trespassers. I'll shoot their dog first. And no, they do not clean up after their dog.

I’m sure you’re just being over the top but threatening their dog makes you sound unstable. They 100% should not be letting it roam but it’s an owner issue not reason to kill the dog.

Will you also be killing the deer, fox, rabbits, and every other animal that use the bathroom on your 41 acres?

Maybe a simple conversation with them about the dog would resolve the issue.

Do you understand the difference between wild animals and domesticated pets?

Very much so. Also enough to know that this is a problem with the dog’s owner and not something a decent person would kill a dog over. The owners should keep their dog off of OP’s property, without a doubt.

Also, poop is poop. Truly can’t imagine the actual dog poop is more of a problem than the poop of wild animals on a 41 acre piece of property OP uses occasionally.

The owners are definitely wrong but threatening someone’s pet is a sign of being unstable.

Apparently "poop is not poop":

"Hazards of Dog Feces
Health Risks: Contains harmful bacteria and parasites (E. coli, salmonella, hookworms, roundworms, Giardia) that can survive in the soil for years and infect humans and other animals.

Environmental Impact: High in phosphorus and nitrogen, which, when washed into waterways by rain, causes algae blooms, kills fish, and reduces water quality.

Soil Damage: Due to a high-protein diet, dog waste is acidic and can burn grass and kill vegetation, whereas herbivore manure often fertilizes soil.

Disease Transmission: Dogs can pass on antibiotic-resistant bacteria, such as E. faecium and E. faecalis, into the environment.

Hazards of Wild Animal Feces

Natural Decomposition: Wildlife feces are a natural part of the ecosystem, decomposing quickly to return nutrients to the soil, rather than overloading it.

Limited Impact: Wild animal feces do not contain high levels of nutrients or contaminants like dogs, which are not considered a "natural" part of the ecosystem in high concentrations. - Google

+1 Correct. There is a reason dogs are prohibited from many parks and wildlife areas.

Can you name any of these many parks?

Uhh, yeah. Off the top of my head:

Glacier National Park
Rocky Mountain National Park
Yellowstone National Park
Mount Rainier National Park
Mount Hood National Park
Dry Tortugas
Isle Royale National Park
Channel Islands National Park
Arches National Park
Big Bend National Park
Canyonland National Park
Yosemite National Park
.......

Checking Yellowstone, https://www.nps.gov/yell/planyourvisit/pets.htm

So, now we need to get a dictionary and agree what prohibited means before I bother with any more of your drivel.

I love it when morons don't even read their own links.

Pets are not allowed on boardwalks, hiking trails, in the backcountry, or in thermal areas. Carried pets (in arms, strollers, backpacks, carriers, etc.) are also not allowed in these areas.

I read it. You ignored:

Pets are only allowed in developed areas and must stay within 100 feet (30.5 meters) of roads, parking areas, and campgrounds.

That doesn't sound like prohibited. Of course, you are free to use whatever crazy dictionary you have.

You think posting 'pets are allowed in parking lots, but not in the actual park or trails or boardwalk or woods or thermal areas' supports your stance?

Bless your heart.

Developed areas, like campgrounds inside Yellowstone. Or are you going to tell me that the campgrounds aren't part of Yellowstone? So, pets are not prohibited from Yellowstone.

[Anonymous]

In my experience, you have to decide what matters more to you—potentially starting a feud or not having the pooping dog and its owners on your property.

We had a neighbor’s dog, not only poop on our property, but charge at us when we were on our own property. Not the dog’s fault—she didn’t know where the property line was.

We spoke to the neighbors and their response was if you’ll let us know when you’re going to be up near the property line we’ll bring the dog in. Excuse me, I need to give you advance notice of when I’ll be using my own property? No.

In our case, we had several conversations which were not abided by and ended up putting up a fence. These neighbors no longer speak to us and I’m fine with it. Entitled people are not my kind of people.

My advice is that if you’re going to have a conversation, you need to be very clear and very direct.

[Anonymous]

You are in the country

Run a barbed wire fence as one wall to the left.
You can probably do this yourself with the special gloves/tools.

See if the barbed wire on that one side is enough to block the dog.

Ask the farmer neighbor for a referral on who locally can do this if you are not up to installing it yourself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fence your property.

OP here.

No. It's 41 acres. We aren't spending 100k to put up a fence to keep out trespassers. I'll shoot their dog first. And no, they do not clean up after their dog.

I’m sure you’re just being over the top but threatening their dog makes you sound unstable. They 100% should not be letting it roam but it’s an owner issue not reason to kill the dog.

Will you also be killing the deer, fox, rabbits, and every other animal that use the bathroom on your 41 acres?

Maybe a simple conversation with them about the dog would resolve the issue.

Do you understand the difference between wild animals and domesticated pets?

Very much so. Also enough to know that this is a problem with the dog’s owner and not something a decent person would kill a dog over. The owners should keep their dog off of OP’s property, without a doubt.

Also, poop is poop. Truly can’t imagine the actual dog poop is more of a problem than the poop of wild animals on a 41 acre piece of property OP uses occasionally.

The owners are definitely wrong but threatening someone’s pet is a sign of being unstable.

Apparently "poop is not poop":

"Hazards of Dog Feces
Health Risks: Contains harmful bacteria and parasites (E. coli, salmonella, hookworms, roundworms, Giardia) that can survive in the soil for years and infect humans and other animals.

Environmental Impact: High in phosphorus and nitrogen, which, when washed into waterways by rain, causes algae blooms, kills fish, and reduces water quality.

Soil Damage: Due to a high-protein diet, dog waste is acidic and can burn grass and kill vegetation, whereas herbivore manure often fertilizes soil.

Disease Transmission: Dogs can pass on antibiotic-resistant bacteria, such as E. faecium and E. faecalis, into the environment.

Hazards of Wild Animal Feces

Natural Decomposition: Wildlife feces are a natural part of the ecosystem, decomposing quickly to return nutrients to the soil, rather than overloading it.

Limited Impact: Wild animal feces do not contain high levels of nutrients or contaminants like dogs, which are not considered a "natural" part of the ecosystem in high concentrations. - Google

+1 Correct. There is a reason dogs are prohibited from many parks and wildlife areas.

Can you name any of these many parks?

Uhh, yeah. Off the top of my head:

Glacier National Park
Rocky Mountain National Park
Yellowstone National Park
Mount Rainier National Park
Mount Hood National Park
Dry Tortugas
Isle Royale National Park
Channel Islands National Park
Arches National Park
Big Bend National Park
Canyonland National Park
Yosemite National Park
.......

Checking Yellowstone, https://www.nps.gov/yell/planyourvisit/pets.htm

So, now we need to get a dictionary and agree what prohibited means before I bother with any more of your drivel.

I love it when morons don't even read their own links.

Pets are not allowed on boardwalks, hiking trails, in the backcountry, or in thermal areas. Carried pets (in arms, strollers, backpacks, carriers, etc.) are also not allowed in these areas.

I read it. You ignored:

Pets are only allowed in developed areas and must stay within 100 feet (30.5 meters) of roads, parking areas, and campgrounds.

That doesn't sound like prohibited. Of course, you are free to use whatever crazy dictionary you have.

You think posting 'pets are allowed in parking lots, but not in the actual park or trails or boardwalk or woods or thermal areas' supports your stance?

Bless your heart.

Developed areas, like campgrounds inside Yellowstone. Or are you going to tell me that the campgrounds aren't part of Yellowstone? So, pets are not prohibited from Yellowstone.

I get it. You're the same type of person that claims to have been to New York because you had a layover there.

[Anonymous]

12:06

I think they sell the spools of barbed wire at tractor supply and the metal stakes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fence your property.

OP here.

No. It's 41 acres. We aren't spending 100k to put up a fence to keep out trespassers. I'll shoot their dog first. And no, they do not clean up after their dog.

I’m sure you’re just being over the top but threatening their dog makes you sound unstable. They 100% should not be letting it roam but it’s an owner issue not reason to kill the dog.

Will you also be killing the deer, fox, rabbits, and every other animal that use the bathroom on your 41 acres?

Maybe a simple conversation with them about the dog would resolve the issue.

Do you understand the difference between wild animals and domesticated pets?

Very much so. Also enough to know that this is a problem with the dog’s owner and not something a decent person would kill a dog over. The owners should keep their dog off of OP’s property, without a doubt.

Also, poop is poop. Truly can’t imagine the actual dog poop is more of a problem than the poop of wild animals on a 41 acre piece of property OP uses occasionally.

The owners are definitely wrong but threatening someone’s pet is a sign of being unstable.

Apparently "poop is not poop":

"Hazards of Dog Feces
Health Risks: Contains harmful bacteria and parasites (E. coli, salmonella, hookworms, roundworms, Giardia) that can survive in the soil for years and infect humans and other animals.

Environmental Impact: High in phosphorus and nitrogen, which, when washed into waterways by rain, causes algae blooms, kills fish, and reduces water quality.

Soil Damage: Due to a high-protein diet, dog waste is acidic and can burn grass and kill vegetation, whereas herbivore manure often fertilizes soil.

Disease Transmission: Dogs can pass on antibiotic-resistant bacteria, such as E. faecium and E. faecalis, into the environment.

Hazards of Wild Animal Feces

Natural Decomposition: Wildlife feces are a natural part of the ecosystem, decomposing quickly to return nutrients to the soil, rather than overloading it.

Limited Impact: Wild animal feces do not contain high levels of nutrients or contaminants like dogs, which are not considered a "natural" part of the ecosystem in high concentrations. - Google

+1 Correct. There is a reason dogs are prohibited from many parks and wildlife areas.

Can you name any of these many parks?

Uhh, yeah. Off the top of my head:

Glacier National Park
Rocky Mountain National Park
Yellowstone National Park
Mount Rainier National Park
Mount Hood National Park
Dry Tortugas
Isle Royale National Park
Channel Islands National Park
Arches National Park
Big Bend National Park
Canyonland National Park
Yosemite National Park
.......

Checking Yellowstone, https://www.nps.gov/yell/planyourvisit/pets.htm

So, now we need to get a dictionary and agree what prohibited means before I bother with any more of your drivel.

I love it when morons don't even read their own links.

Pets are not allowed on boardwalks, hiking trails, in the backcountry, or in thermal areas. Carried pets (in arms, strollers, backpacks, carriers, etc.) are also not allowed in these areas.

I read it. You ignored:

Pets are only allowed in developed areas and must stay within 100 feet (30.5 meters) of roads, parking areas, and campgrounds.

That doesn't sound like prohibited. Of course, you are free to use whatever crazy dictionary you have.

You think posting 'pets are allowed in parking lots, but not in the actual park or trails or boardwalk or woods or thermal areas' supports your stance?

Bless your heart.

Developed areas, like campgrounds inside Yellowstone. Or are you going to tell me that the campgrounds aren't part of Yellowstone? So, pets are not prohibited from Yellowstone.

I wonder why they are restricted to parking lots. Hmmmm.

[Anonymous]

I've lived in the country in rural western Maryland and I've lived in the country in the rural eastern shore of Maryland.

Roaming dogs, owned by local neighbors, are pretty common in rural country areas.

Country people don't typically leash and walk their dogs like city people.