Savannah Guthrie’s mom is missing, suspect kidnapping

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Anonymous wrote:Are there other adult children and family in the area? A kid living 3,000 miles away from their aging widow mom makes me so sad. She prob only saw her a handful of times a year

It's very different these days in the age of all the apps with cameras, though

Signed, Grandma in her 60s

Back in the older days it was literally just letters and still pictures and phone calls across state lines that cost money per minutes

Now photos can be posted online in a hot minute

It is really different

Yeah it’s different that strivers who abandoned their elders think FaceTime and social media means they’re “there” for the elderly. They’re not. The elderly are super vulnerable; both health safety and financial crimes. If SHTF they’re a world apart and can’t help

What exactly are you trying to imply she should have done? If her mother didn't want to move near her, she should drop her job and move there? There were cameras in the home. She may have had family nearby. Savanah has a sister, I think. This mother was NOT abandoned. Do you think women should not allowed to have careers? Are you suggesting Savannah should have forced her mom to move by basically kidnapping her and moving her somewhere against her will to protect her from kidnapping? Do you know how rare kidnapping is? Was she supposed to predict this?

Why are you making this about women/daughters? Because you're projecting. Both self-centered striver sons and daughters abandon elderly and then eagerly cash the trust fund and estate checks when they croak after years of sadness and loneliness -- or worse.

When is the last time Savannah lived in Arizona? 30 years ago? 35? When her mom was in her 40s or 50s? It doesn’t sound like she abandoned the elderly. What a weird take you have.

Also, the rest of the family lives there. Savannah is the one who moved away. Her mom remained in her hometown with family and friends. Nothing weird or bad on Savannah’s part.

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This is just so awful for Savannah and her family. To lose a parent/grandmother this way is devastating.

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Why is this national news? It shouldn't be. Sucks for Savannah, but no one really cares.

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Anonymous wrote:Are there other adult children and family in the area? A kid living 3,000 miles away from their aging widow mom makes me so sad. She prob only saw her a handful of times a year

She was close with her mom. This was not her fault. Elderly parents are free agents. Check the Eldercare board and you will see many of us have elders who want to age in place. Check yourself.

You’re projecting because you have a guilty conscience

Do you understand you cannot force your elderly parent to move when they are of sound mind. Look into the legality before you post.

Of sound mind but can't walk 50 yds alone?

Why is this difficult? Many elderly people have physical challenges but are still mentally sound.

Also to the people implying Savannah Guthrie shouldn’t have allowed her mom to live there, that’s where Savannah is from. It is her mother’s home and she has other family and friends in the area. It’s not like Savannah is the only family and abandoned her.

Savannah also has two siblings.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this national news? It shouldn't be. Sucks for Savannah, but no one really cares.

Because it could potentially be a targeted kidnapping of a nationally known journalist's family member. Do you live under a rock?

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this national news? It shouldn't be. Sucks for Savannah, but no one really cares.

Lots of people care!

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Anonymous wrote:What were the concerns about the house? They never said.

Unfortunately it probably means: stuff on the floor, broken, blood.

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Forced entry, evidence of a struggle, blood, etc.

Read between the lines. Use context.

I didn’t think of blood. I imagined forced entry and contents strewn around.

they said *grave concern*, which means blood.

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Anonymous wrote:Are there other adult children and family in the area? A kid living 3,000 miles away from their aging widow mom makes me so sad. She prob only saw her a handful of times a year

She was close with her mom. This was not her fault. Elderly parents are free agents. Check the Eldercare board and you will see many of us have elders who want to age in place. Check yourself.

You’re projecting because you have a guilty conscience

Do you understand you cannot force your elderly parent to move when they are of sound mind. Look into the legality before you post.

Of sound mind but can't walk 50 yds alone?

Why is this difficult? Many elderly people have physical challenges but are still mentally sound.

Also to the people implying Savannah Guthrie shouldn’t have allowed her mom to live there, that’s where Savannah is from. It is her mother’s home and she has other family and friends in the area. It’s not like Savannah is the only family and abandoned her.

I meant she may be cognitively sound, but if she can't walk well and needs assistance to be mobile, then perhaps live-in help or assisted living facility is appropriate. We sometimes have to make difficult decisions regarding elderly parent care.

If she is cognitively sound, she makes her own decisions. Just like no one can decide for you where you will live, the same is true for parents. They are still people with rights and dignity and can make decisions for themselves. You can't take their rights away, steamroll what they want and forcibly move them out of their own homes all without their consent just because you want to.

Good to know she wasn't vulnerable and could take care of herself.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this national news? It shouldn't be. Sucks for Savannah, but no one really cares.

Because it could potentially be a targeted kidnapping of a nationally known journalist's family member. Do you live under a rock?

What a strange conclusion to jump to.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this national news? It shouldn't be. Sucks for Savannah, but no one really cares.

Because it could potentially be a targeted kidnapping of a nationally known journalist's family member. Do you live under a rock?

What a strange conclusion to jump to.

No one has concluded everything, but fortunately you are not in charge of the investigation. If this is so strange, then why did the journalists at this morning's news conference ask multiple questions about threats to SG, and mention her security team is working with the Pima County Sheriff?

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Anonymous wrote:Are there other adult children and family in the area? A kid living 3,000 miles away from their aging widow mom makes me so sad. She prob only saw her a handful of times a year

She was close with her mom. This was not her fault. Elderly parents are free agents. Check the Eldercare board and you will see many of us have elders who want to age in place. Check yourself.

You’re projecting because you have a guilty conscience

Do you understand you cannot force your elderly parent to move when they are of sound mind. Look into the legality before you post.

Of sound mind but can't walk 50 yds alone?

Why is this difficult? Many elderly people have physical challenges but are still mentally sound.

Also to the people implying Savannah Guthrie shouldn’t have allowed her mom to live there, that’s where Savannah is from. It is her mother’s home and she has other family and friends in the area. It’s not like Savannah is the only family and abandoned her.

I meant she may be cognitively sound, but if she can't walk well and needs assistance to be mobile, then perhaps live-in help or assisted living facility is appropriate. We sometimes have to make difficult decisions regarding elderly parent care.

My mom lives in Tucson and certainly can’t walk 50 yards unassisted. She has a walker for longer walks like that. My siblings live within a mile or two. She also has an Apple Watch that alerts us if she falls and an Apple home thing she can use to alert us if she falls or needs help. She definitely doesn’t want to move. She comes to visit out here but not in the winter. You’re ridiculous to suggest someone needs to go into a home just because they can’t walk half a football field unassisted!

I stated OR live-in help. If you think not needed for a person in their 80s with very limited mobility, fine with me.

Why the heck would she need live in help? According to her Apple Watch, she averages 2000 steps a day around her house—she just can’t walk long distances due to the athritis. She cooks and cleans and does her laundry and takes her medication. She only needs help with certain things like some of the more complicated online accounts and of course she doesn’t drive. We used to have someone come in a couple times a eeek when my dad was alive but even then the lady ended up just sitting around with nothing really to do, irritating my mom.
It sounds like savannahs mom was totally capable of taking care of herself but maybe didn’t drive anymore and couldn’t walk a half football field. That doesn’t mean she needs round the clock care!

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Anonymous wrote:What were the concerns about the house? They never said.

Unfortunately it probably means: stuff on the floor, broken, blood.

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Forced entry, evidence of a struggle, blood, etc.

Read between the lines. Use context.

I didn’t think of blood. I imagined forced entry and contents strewn around.

they said *grave concern*, which means blood.

Or it means they have someone sketchy recorded on th home cameras or Apple home or whatever she uses. If there was significant blood, the family would not have spent an hour looking for her before calling police.

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The “grave concern” could be as simple as her phone/wallet/meds etc left at home + the front door left open. Both of which are the case, according to unconfirmed reports from neighbors.

That + her limited mobility on foot + a thorough search of the immediate surrounding area for good measure, pretty much confirms that she did not leave the house on her own. She was not able to. At least not on foot.

Also, she may have had a drivers license and vehicle. I haven’t seen any confirmation that she did not. She may have typically driven to church on her own. If she did have a car, obviously it remains at the residence.

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Anonymous wrote:Are there other adult children and family in the area? A kid living 3,000 miles away from their aging widow mom makes me so sad. She prob only saw her a handful of times a year

She was close with her mom. This was not her fault. Elderly parents are free agents. Check the Eldercare board and you will see many of us have elders who want to age in place. Check yourself.

You’re projecting because you have a guilty conscience

Do you understand you cannot force your elderly parent to move when they are of sound mind. Look into the legality before you post.

Of sound mind but can't walk 50 yds alone?

Why is this difficult? Many elderly people have physical challenges but are still mentally sound.

Also to the people implying Savannah Guthrie shouldn’t have allowed her mom to live there, that’s where Savannah is from. It is her mother’s home and she has other family and friends in the area. It’s not like Savannah is the only family and abandoned her.

I meant she may be cognitively sound, but if she can't walk well and needs assistance to be mobile, then perhaps live-in help or assisted living facility is appropriate. We sometimes have to make difficult decisions regarding elderly parent care.

My mom lives in Tucson and certainly can’t walk 50 yards unassisted. She has a walker for longer walks like that. My siblings live within a mile or two. She also has an Apple Watch that alerts us if she falls and an Apple home thing she can use to alert us if she falls or needs help. She definitely doesn’t want to move. She comes to visit out here but not in the winter. You’re ridiculous to suggest someone needs to go into a home just because they can’t walk half a football field unassisted!

I stated OR live-in help. If you think not needed for a person in their 80s with very limited mobility, fine with me.

Why the heck would she need live in help? According to her Apple Watch, she averages 2000 steps a day around her house—she just can’t walk long distances due to the athritis. She cooks and cleans and does her laundry and takes her medication. She only needs help with certain things like some of the more complicated online accounts and of course she doesn’t drive. We used to have someone come in a couple times a eeek when my dad was alive but even then the lady ended up just sitting around with nothing really to do, irritating my mom.
It sounds like savannahs mom was totally capable of taking care of herself but maybe didn’t drive anymore and couldn’t walk a half football field. That doesn’t mean she needs round the clock care!

Great!

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Anonymous wrote:Very scary and I hope they find her. She is quite close to her mom and likely visits very often. Otherwise, I would just assume she was the clueless sibling who insists you are crazy and mom is fine and does not have dementia because mom seems lucid and showboats when she visits. The person pushes back until something bad happens and then swears it was sudden onset of some severe dementia when you were saying things for years and everyone insisted you were wrong and refused to plan. That is what happened to us, but the scary event was NOT a disappearance, so sadly it was my first thought here. I hope they find her soon.

Wow, project much? Your issues are your own.