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Anonymous wrote:NYC nurses striking claiming it is due to workload and staffing levels. Meanwhile, they're already making $165k and want to increase it up to $275k at some NY hospitals. GMAFB. That is grotesque overpay for a 4 year degree job. We are supposed to now compensate nurses more than many family docs? Talk about wage inflation spiral. If nurses make $275k I guess we have to pay teachers $200k and docs $1M now.

USA wages and cost of labor are out of control.


What are your sources for these salaries and what types of roles?

-RN


https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/12/nyregion/nurses-strike-hospitals-nyc.html

AVERAGE is already $165k. Union is making demands that would push it to $275k.

Ridiculous over compensation. Fire all union nursing and replace.


CRNAs there are making $205/hr per diem or 300-350k salary. That’s more than some physicians make. That’s an amazing value for a masters degree


So go get your nursing degree and get it on it!


Only those who are ambitious and more highly educated and trained make those higher salaries. The strikers want higher salaries for lower levels of credentialing, basing their argument on the profitability of their employers, not on the actual market value they bring to their roles. If they want to share in their employer's profits, they need to become stockholders, not extortionists. They also surely would not be demanding their wages be reduced in years when their employers profits decline, demonstrating further that this has nothing to do with the value of their labor, which would be the same at an unprofitable hospital as it is where they happen to be fortunate enought to be employed.


If anyone should be profiting off of sick people, it SHOULD be the nurses who are actually doing the day to day care of those people.

I’m sure you have ZERO problems with insurance executives and hospital administrators making bank off of human suffering.


Omg....stop with the crappy comparison to a CEO.

You know what the brutal reality is? EVERYONE in healthcare is overpaid, period. Docs, nurses, healthcareadministration, and hospital/insurance CEOs. You're all massively overpaid. That's why healthcare is bankruping the entire country and costs are out of control compared to the rest of the world. Too many layers of fat. Too many people making too much money when the rest of the world does the same jobs for a fraction of the price with similar or even better outcomes.

$275k for nurses is way too much. $5M for execs is too much. Both can be true at the same time.


Both could be true at the same time, but most nurses aren’t getting $275,000 and many CEOs are making more than $5 million. Do you want to cut costs, start at the top, then see how much you left over for actual patient care, which is what nursing represents.



You must suck at math. 100 nurses making $275k. $27.5M in labor cost. Make the CEO earning $10M get $0. Nursing costs way more.

Everyone in hc gets paid too much.

They should cover medical procedures with American insurance or Medicare and allow people to travel abroad for procedures at prescreened hospitals for quality. Americans and our Healthcare system could get tons of procedures done for a fraction of the cost. HC jobs in the US that are now grossly overcompensated would have to compete globally in terms of salary. Even after factoring in having to pay for flights, which would be covered by insurance, it would still save massive amounts of money since American healthcare is so vastly overpriced.


But the CEO is a no-value added drain on the system. We NEED nurses. So start there and stop whining about nurses.


Because nurses normally run multimillion dollar healthcare businesses? The roles are different. The skills are different. The market decides the compensation for each. CEOs always make more money than others in any line of business, because their job function is valued more highly. If you don't like it, go be a CEO yourself. If you can. If you can't, that's a envy issue, reflecting your market value relative to that of those paid more highly whether CEOs or others.


And that’s exactly what’s happening here.

Healthcare CEOs are parasites. They extract value from the system. Their jobs are only “valued” more highly by mouth breathing idiots who don’t understand the actual point of healthcare.


Their jobs are valued more highly by the stockholders who elect the Board which sets compensation policy. That you don't like their decisions hardly makes them improper.


Great, then you understand the fact that you don’t like labor unions and worker protections hardly makes them improper.
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I’m a nurse and when nurses decide to strike, it always ends up becoming about the greedy nurses wanting more money vs other issues laid on the table. Like patient-nurse ratios, which can by abysmal and unsafe in many parts of the country. It impacts care. Nurses can only be in so many places at once. I’ve heard horror from nurses who have worked in NYC EDs. And then there is work place violence. Even if you don’t give a damn about nurses, maybe just think about how all of this impacts care you and your loved ones receive in hospitals. And it’s going to get worse. Aging population, funding cuts, people losing insurance. It’s going to make COVID times look like a picnic.
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Anonymous wrote:NYC nurses striking claiming it is due to workload and staffing levels. Meanwhile, they're already making $165k and want to increase it up to $275k at some NY hospitals. GMAFB. That is grotesque overpay for a 4 year degree job. We are supposed to now compensate nurses more than many family docs? Talk about wage inflation spiral. If nurses make $275k I guess we have to pay teachers $200k and docs $1M now.

USA wages and cost of labor are out of control.


Okay. Then you go clean up vomit and puke for 12 hours straight. Have blood splattered on you. Deal with the trauma of seeing a 12 year old mangled by a tractor or fingers cut off by a lawn mower or a woman beaten up by her husband.

The nurses should get a raise.

Plus NYC is expensive.



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Anonymous wrote:You know what's out of control OP? CEO wages. CEO greed.


Seriously.

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Anonymous wrote:NYC nurses striking claiming it is due to workload and staffing levels. Meanwhile, they're already making $165k and want to increase it up to $275k at some NY hospitals. GMAFB. That is grotesque overpay for a 4 year degree job. We are supposed to now compensate nurses more than many family docs? Talk about wage inflation spiral. If nurses make $275k I guess we have to pay teachers $200k and docs $1M now.

USA wages and cost of labor are out of control.


What are your sources for these salaries and what types of roles?

-RN


https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/12/nyregion/nurses-strike-hospitals-nyc.html

AVERAGE is already $165k. Union is making demands that would push it to $275k.

Ridiculous over compensation. Fire all union nursing and replace.


CRNAs there are making $205/hr per diem or 300-350k salary. That’s more than some physicians make. That’s an amazing value for a masters degree


So go get your nursing degree and get it on it!


Only those who are ambitious and more highly educated and trained make those higher salaries. The strikers want higher salaries for lower levels of credentialing, basing their argument on the profitability of their employers, not on the actual market value they bring to their roles. If they want to share in their employer's profits, they need to become stockholders, not extortionists. They also surely would not be demanding their wages be reduced in years when their employers profits decline, demonstrating further that this has nothing to do with the value of their labor, which would be the same at an unprofitable hospital as it is where they happen to be fortunate enought to be employed.


If anyone should be profiting off of sick people, it SHOULD be the nurses who are actually doing the day to day care of those people.

I’m sure you have ZERO problems with insurance executives and hospital administrators making bank off of human suffering.


Omg....stop with the crappy comparison to a CEO.

You know what the brutal reality is? EVERYONE in healthcare is overpaid, period. Docs, nurses, healthcareadministration, and hospital/insurance CEOs. You're all massively overpaid. That's why healthcare is bankruping the entire country and costs are out of control compared to the rest of the world. Too many layers of fat. Too many people making too much money when the rest of the world does the same jobs for a fraction of the price with similar or even better outcomes.

$275k for nurses is way too much. $5M for execs is too much. Both can be true at the same time.


Both could be true at the same time, but most nurses aren’t getting $275,000 and many CEOs are making more than $5 million. Do you want to cut costs, start at the top, then see how much you left over for actual patient care, which is what nursing represents.



You must suck at math. 100 nurses making $275k. $27.5M in labor cost. Make the CEO earning $10M get $0. Nursing costs way more.

Everyone in hc gets paid too much.

They should cover medical procedures with American insurance or Medicare and allow people to travel abroad for procedures at prescreened hospitals for quality. Americans and our Healthcare system could get tons of procedures done for a fraction of the cost. HC jobs in the US that are now grossly overcompensated would have to compete globally in terms of salary. Even after factoring in having to pay for flights, which would be covered by insurance, it would still save massive amounts of money since American healthcare is so vastly overpriced.


But the CEO is a no-value added drain on the system. We NEED nurses. So start there and stop whining about nurses.


Because nurses normally run multimillion dollar healthcare businesses? The roles are different. The skills are different. The market decides the compensation for each. CEOs always make more money than others in any line of business, because their job function is valued more highly. If you don't like it, go be a CEO yourself. If you can. If you can't, that's a envy issue, reflecting your market value relative to that of those paid more highly whether CEOs or others.


And that’s exactly what’s happening here.

Healthcare CEOs are parasites. They extract value from the system. Their jobs are only “valued” more highly by mouth breathing idiots who don’t understand the actual point of healthcare.


Their jobs are valued more highly by the stockholders who elect the Board which sets compensation policy. That you don't like their decisions hardly makes them improper.


Great, then you understand the fact that you don’t like labor unions and worker protections hardly makes them improper.



They can strike all they want. That doesn't mean they'll gain anything. it may also mean they lose their jobs in favor of others grateful to earn the market rate for their skills, rather than holding out for whatever they think they can extort from their employer without regard to ther valkue as determined by the market. The market rate for CEOs is unrelated to the market rate for nurses.
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I don't know where this salary figure is coming from.

Mt. Sinai is hiring nurses right now for $62/hour. At 40 hours a week that is 124K.

NYU is hiring for 118-145K.

NY Presbyterian is hiring for $59-66/hour or 122-137K.

I'm a nurse, I hire nurses. These figures sound about right for what I expect NYC to pay.
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Anonymous wrote:NYC nurses striking claiming it is due to workload and staffing levels. Meanwhile, they're already making $165k and want to increase it up to $275k at some NY hospitals. GMAFB. That is grotesque overpay for a 4 year degree job. We are supposed to now compensate nurses more than many family docs? Talk about wage inflation spiral. If nurses make $275k I guess we have to pay teachers $200k and docs $1M now.

USA wages and cost of labor are out of control.


What are your sources for these salaries and what types of roles?

-RN


https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/12/nyregion/nurses-strike-hospitals-nyc.html

AVERAGE is already $165k. Union is making demands that would push it to $275k.

Ridiculous over compensation. Fire all union nursing and replace.


CRNAs there are making $205/hr per diem or 300-350k salary. That’s more than some physicians make. That’s an amazing value for a masters degree


So go get your nursing degree and get it on it!


Only those who are ambitious and more highly educated and trained make those higher salaries. The strikers want higher salaries for lower levels of credentialing, basing their argument on the profitability of their employers, not on the actual market value they bring to their roles. If they want to share in their employer's profits, they need to become stockholders, not extortionists. They also surely would not be demanding their wages be reduced in years when their employers profits decline, demonstrating further that this has nothing to do with the value of their labor, which would be the same at an unprofitable hospital as it is where they happen to be fortunate enought to be employed.


If anyone should be profiting off of sick people, it SHOULD be the nurses who are actually doing the day to day care of those people.

I’m sure you have ZERO problems with insurance executives and hospital administrators making bank off of human suffering.


Omg....stop with the crappy comparison to a CEO.

You know what the brutal reality is? EVERYONE in healthcare is overpaid, period. Docs, nurses, healthcareadministration, and hospital/insurance CEOs. You're all massively overpaid. That's why healthcare is bankruping the entire country and costs are out of control compared to the rest of the world. Too many layers of fat. Too many people making too much money when the rest of the world does the same jobs for a fraction of the price with similar or even better outcomes.

$275k for nurses is way too much. $5M for execs is too much. Both can be true at the same time.


Both could be true at the same time, but most nurses aren’t getting $275,000 and many CEOs are making more than $5 million. Do you want to cut costs, start at the top, then see how much you left over for actual patient care, which is what nursing represents.



You must suck at math. 100 nurses making $275k. $27.5M in labor cost. Make the CEO earning $10M get $0. Nursing costs way more.

Everyone in hc gets paid too much.

They should cover medical procedures with American insurance or Medicare and allow people to travel abroad for procedures at prescreened hospitals for quality. Americans and our Healthcare system could get tons of procedures done for a fraction of the cost. HC jobs in the US that are now grossly overcompensated would have to compete globally in terms of salary. Even after factoring in having to pay for flights, which would be covered by insurance, it would still save massive amounts of money since American healthcare is so vastly overpriced.


But the CEO is a no-value added drain on the system. We NEED nurses. So start there and stop whining about nurses.


Because nurses normally run multimillion dollar healthcare businesses? The roles are different. The skills are different. The market decides the compensation for each. CEOs always make more money than others in any line of business, because their job function is valued more highly. If you don't like it, go be a CEO yourself. If you can. If you can't, that's a envy issue, reflecting your market value relative to that of those paid more highly whether CEOs or others.


And that’s exactly what’s happening here.

Healthcare CEOs are parasites. They extract value from the system. Their jobs are only “valued” more highly by mouth breathing idiots who don’t understand the actual point of healthcare.


Their jobs are valued more highly by the stockholders who elect the Board which sets compensation policy. That you don't like their decisions hardly makes them improper.


Great, then you understand the fact that you don’t like labor unions and worker protections hardly makes them improper.



They can strike all they want. That doesn't mean they'll gain anything. it may also mean they lose their jobs in favor of others grateful to earn the market rate for their skills, rather than holding out for whatever they think they can extort from their employer without regard to ther valkue as determined by the market. The market rate for CEOs is unrelated to the market rate for nurses.


Stop saying market rate. You obviously don’t understand what it means.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't know where this salary figure is coming from.

Mt. Sinai is hiring nurses right now for $62/hour. At 40 hours a week that is 124K.

NYU is hiring for 118-145K.

NY Presbyterian is hiring for $59-66/hour or 122-137K.

I'm a nurse, I hire nurses. These figures sound about right for what I expect NYC to pay.


The figure is coming from the lying mouths of for-profit healthcare, greedy CEO apologists.
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Anonymous wrote:NYC nurses striking claiming it is due to workload and staffing levels. Meanwhile, they're already making $165k and want to increase it up to $275k at some NY hospitals. GMAFB. That is grotesque overpay for a 4 year degree job. We are supposed to now compensate nurses more than many family docs? Talk about wage inflation spiral. If nurses make $275k I guess we have to pay teachers $200k and docs $1M now.

USA wages and cost of labor are out of control.


What are your sources for these salaries and what types of roles?

-RN


https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/12/nyregion/nurses-strike-hospitals-nyc.html

AVERAGE is already $165k. Union is making demands that would push it to $275k.

Ridiculous over compensation. Fire all union nursing and replace.


CRNAs there are making $205/hr per diem or 300-350k salary. That’s more than some physicians make. That’s an amazing value for a masters degree


So go get your nursing degree and get it on it!


Only those who are ambitious and more highly educated and trained make those higher salaries. The strikers want higher salaries for lower levels of credentialing, basing their argument on the profitability of their employers, not on the actual market value they bring to their roles. If they want to share in their employer's profits, they need to become stockholders, not extortionists. They also surely would not be demanding their wages be reduced in years when their employers profits decline, demonstrating further that this has nothing to do with the value of their labor, which would be the same at an unprofitable hospital as it is where they happen to be fortunate enought to be employed.


If anyone should be profiting off of sick people, it SHOULD be the nurses who are actually doing the day to day care of those people.

I’m sure you have ZERO problems with insurance executives and hospital administrators making bank off of human suffering.


Omg....stop with the crappy comparison to a CEO.

You know what the brutal reality is? EVERYONE in healthcare is overpaid, period. Docs, nurses, healthcareadministration, and hospital/insurance CEOs. You're all massively overpaid. That's why healthcare is bankruping the entire country and costs are out of control compared to the rest of the world. Too many layers of fat. Too many people making too much money when the rest of the world does the same jobs for a fraction of the price with similar or even better outcomes.

$275k for nurses is way too much. $5M for execs is too much. Both can be true at the same time.


Both could be true at the same time, but most nurses aren’t getting $275,000 and many CEOs are making more than $5 million. Do you want to cut costs, start at the top, then see how much you left over for actual patient care, which is what nursing represents.



You must suck at math. 100 nurses making $275k. $27.5M in labor cost. Make the CEO earning $10M get $0. Nursing costs way more.

Everyone in hc gets paid too much.

They should cover medical procedures with American insurance or Medicare and allow people to travel abroad for procedures at prescreened hospitals for quality. Americans and our Healthcare system could get tons of procedures done for a fraction of the cost. HC jobs in the US that are now grossly overcompensated would have to compete globally in terms of salary. Even after factoring in having to pay for flights, which would be covered by insurance, it would still save massive amounts of money since American healthcare is so vastly overpriced.


But the CEO is a no-value added drain on the system. We NEED nurses. So start there and stop whining about nurses.


Because nurses normally run multimillion dollar healthcare businesses? The roles are different. The skills are different. The market decides the compensation for each. CEOs always make more money than others in any line of business, because their job function is valued more highly. If you don't like it, go be a CEO yourself. If you can. If you can't, that's a envy issue, reflecting your market value relative to that of those paid more highly whether CEOs or others.


And that’s exactly what’s happening here.

Healthcare CEOs are parasites. They extract value from the system. Their jobs are only “valued” more highly by mouth breathing idiots who don’t understand the actual point of healthcare.


Their jobs are valued more highly by the stockholders who elect the Board which sets compensation policy. That you don't like their decisions hardly makes them improper.


Great, then you understand the fact that you don’t like labor unions and worker protections hardly makes them improper.



They can strike all they want. That doesn't mean they'll gain anything. it may also mean they lose their jobs in favor of others grateful to earn the market rate for their skills, rather than holding out for whatever they think they can extort from their employer without regard to ther valkue as determined by the market. The market rate for CEOs is unrelated to the market rate for nurses.


I have a feeling they’ll get quite a bit, and I support them getting everything they can. People are smart enough to look at a 53% increase in CEO salaries while proposing to take away nurses health insurance and see where the real problems are. Plus the regulatory environment in New York supports the nurses.
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Anonymous wrote:NYC nurses striking claiming it is due to workload and staffing levels. Meanwhile, they're already making $165k and want to increase it up to $275k at some NY hospitals. GMAFB. That is grotesque overpay for a 4 year degree job. We are supposed to now compensate nurses more than many family docs? Talk about wage inflation spiral. If nurses make $275k I guess we have to pay teachers $200k and docs $1M now.

USA wages and cost of labor are out of control.


What are your sources for these salaries and what types of roles?

-RN


https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/12/nyregion/nurses-strike-hospitals-nyc.html

AVERAGE is already $165k. Union is making demands that would push it to $275k.

Ridiculous over compensation. Fire all union nursing and replace.


CRNAs there are making $205/hr per diem or 300-350k salary. That’s more than some physicians make. That’s an amazing value for a masters degree


So go get your nursing degree and get it on it!


Only those who are ambitious and more highly educated and trained make those higher salaries. The strikers want higher salaries for lower levels of credentialing, basing their argument on the profitability of their employers, not on the actual market value they bring to their roles. If they want to share in their employer's profits, they need to become stockholders, not extortionists. They also surely would not be demanding their wages be reduced in years when their employers profits decline, demonstrating further that this has nothing to do with the value of their labor, which would be the same at an unprofitable hospital as it is where they happen to be fortunate enought to be employed.


If anyone should be profiting off of sick people, it SHOULD be the nurses who are actually doing the day to day care of those people.

I’m sure you have ZERO problems with insurance executives and hospital administrators making bank off of human suffering.


Omg....stop with the crappy comparison to a CEO.

You know what the brutal reality is? EVERYONE in healthcare is overpaid, period. Docs, nurses, healthcareadministration, and hospital/insurance CEOs. You're all massively overpaid. That's why healthcare is bankruping the entire country and costs are out of control compared to the rest of the world. Too many layers of fat. Too many people making too much money when the rest of the world does the same jobs for a fraction of the price with similar or even better outcomes.

$275k for nurses is way too much. $5M for execs is too much. Both can be true at the same time.


Both could be true at the same time, but most nurses aren’t getting $275,000 and many CEOs are making more than $5 million. Do you want to cut costs, start at the top, then see how much you left over for actual patient care, which is what nursing represents.



You must suck at math. 100 nurses making $275k. $27.5M in labor cost. Make the CEO earning $10M get $0. Nursing costs way more.

Everyone in hc gets paid too much.

They should cover medical procedures with American insurance or Medicare and allow people to travel abroad for procedures at prescreened hospitals for quality. Americans and our Healthcare system could get tons of procedures done for a fraction of the cost. HC jobs in the US that are now grossly overcompensated would have to compete globally in terms of salary. Even after factoring in having to pay for flights, which would be covered by insurance, it would still save massive amounts of money since American healthcare is so vastly overpriced.


But the CEO is a no-value added drain on the system. We NEED nurses. So start there and stop whining about nurses.


Because nurses normally run multimillion dollar healthcare businesses? The roles are different. The skills are different. The market decides the compensation for each. CEOs always make more money than others in any line of business, because their job function is valued more highly. If you don't like it, go be a CEO yourself. If you can. If you can't, that's a envy issue, reflecting your market value relative to that of those paid more highly whether CEOs or others.


And that’s exactly what’s happening here.

Healthcare CEOs are parasites. They extract value from the system. Their jobs are only “valued” more highly by mouth breathing idiots who don’t understand the actual point of healthcare.


Their jobs are valued more highly by the stockholders who elect the Board which sets compensation policy. That you don't like their decisions hardly makes them improper.


Great, then you understand the fact that you don’t like labor unions and worker protections hardly makes them improper.



They can strike all they want. That doesn't mean they'll gain anything. it may also mean they lose their jobs in favor of others grateful to earn the market rate for their skills, rather than holding out for whatever they think they can extort from their employer without regard to ther valkue as determined by the market. The market rate for CEOs is unrelated to the market rate for nurses.


I can’t believe you’re blabbing on about market rate while these hospitals pay vastly above the market rate to bring in travel nurses in order to keep their doors open. Between that cost and canceling procedures as well as transferring patients out of the NICU, it’s probably better on the bottom line just to pay the nurses decently or higher a few more to improve the ratios. Being in the party against better nurse to patient ratio is not a winning position.
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Anonymous wrote:NYC nurses striking claiming it is due to workload and staffing levels. Meanwhile, they're already making $165k and want to increase it up to $275k at some NY hospitals. GMAFB. That is grotesque overpay for a 4 year degree job. We are supposed to now compensate nurses more than many family docs? Talk about wage inflation spiral. If nurses make $275k I guess we have to pay teachers $200k and docs $1M now.

USA wages and cost of labor are out of control.


What are your sources for these salaries and what types of roles?

-RN


https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/12/nyregion/nurses-strike-hospitals-nyc.html

AVERAGE is already $165k. Union is making demands that would push it to $275k.

Ridiculous over compensation. Fire all union nursing and replace.


CRNAs there are making $205/hr per diem or 300-350k salary. That’s more than some physicians make. That’s an amazing value for a masters degree


So go get your nursing degree and get it on it!


Only those who are ambitious and more highly educated and trained make those higher salaries. The strikers want higher salaries for lower levels of credentialing, basing their argument on the profitability of their employers, not on the actual market value they bring to their roles. If they want to share in their employer's profits, they need to become stockholders, not extortionists. They also surely would not be demanding their wages be reduced in years when their employers profits decline, demonstrating further that this has nothing to do with the value of their labor, which would be the same at an unprofitable hospital as it is where they happen to be fortunate enought to be employed.


If anyone should be profiting off of sick people, it SHOULD be the nurses who are actually doing the day to day care of those people.

I’m sure you have ZERO problems with insurance executives and hospital administrators making bank off of human suffering.


Omg....stop with the crappy comparison to a CEO.

You know what the brutal reality is? EVERYONE in healthcare is overpaid, period. Docs, nurses, healthcareadministration, and hospital/insurance CEOs. You're all massively overpaid. That's why healthcare is bankruping the entire country and costs are out of control compared to the rest of the world. Too many layers of fat. Too many people making too much money when the rest of the world does the same jobs for a fraction of the price with similar or even better outcomes.

$275k for nurses is way too much. $5M for execs is too much. Both can be true at the same time.


Both could be true at the same time, but most nurses aren’t getting $275,000 and many CEOs are making more than $5 million. Do you want to cut costs, start at the top, then see how much you left over for actual patient care, which is what nursing represents.



You must suck at math. 100 nurses making $275k. $27.5M in labor cost. Make the CEO earning $10M get $0. Nursing costs way more.

Everyone in hc gets paid too much.

They should cover medical procedures with American insurance or Medicare and allow people to travel abroad for procedures at prescreened hospitals for quality. Americans and our Healthcare system could get tons of procedures done for a fraction of the cost. HC jobs in the US that are now grossly overcompensated would have to compete globally in terms of salary. Even after factoring in having to pay for flights, which would be covered by insurance, it would still save massive amounts of money since American healthcare is so vastly overpriced.


But the CEO is a no-value added drain on the system. We NEED nurses. So start there and stop whining about nurses.


Because nurses normally run multimillion dollar healthcare businesses? The roles are different. The skills are different. The market decides the compensation for each. CEOs always make more money than others in any line of business, because their job function is valued more highly. If you don't like it, go be a CEO yourself. If you can. If you can't, that's a envy issue, reflecting your market value relative to that of those paid more highly whether CEOs or others.


And that’s exactly what’s happening here.

Healthcare CEOs are parasites. They extract value from the system. Their jobs are only “valued” more highly by mouth breathing idiots who don’t understand the actual point of healthcare.


Their jobs are valued more highly by the stockholders who elect the Board which sets compensation policy. That you don't like their decisions hardly makes them improper.


Great, then you understand the fact that you don’t like labor unions and worker protections hardly makes them improper.



They can strike all they want. That doesn't mean they'll gain anything. it may also mean they lose their jobs in favor of others grateful to earn the market rate for their skills, rather than holding out for whatever they think they can extort from their employer without regard to ther valkue as determined by the market. The market rate for CEOs is unrelated to the market rate for nurses.


The travel nurses are making BANK right now. If anyone is making $275k in nursing in NYC right now, it’s them.
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Anonymous wrote:Well you all will be happy to know that DC hospitals are still paying new grad RN/BSNs around 75K to start and most make around 100K with 10+ years experience. You can easily make only $50K here if you're working in a physician's office or $80K in research or care management.

I have no no idea where OP gets the 275K figure from.


Can you people frigging read?

The NYT article was posted. NYC nurses make an AVERAGE of $165k already. At one hospital, the union is making demands that would push averages all the way up to $275k.

Ridiculous over compensation. The median HHI in NYC is $128k. They are demanding upwards of double the HHI. Ridiculous.


And the CEO gets upwards of 50 times the household income, what is your point?


This person is arguing that nurses make too much but the CEO is compensated fairly. i.e. This person is not capable of formulating a logical opinion, and certainly they aren’t capable of having a rational discussion.


Even if you got rid of the ceo that wouldn't help the salaries more than 10 bux a person
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NYC nurses striking claiming it is due to workload and staffing levels. Meanwhile, they're already making $165k and want to increase it up to $275k at some NY hospitals. GMAFB. That is grotesque overpay for a 4 year degree job. We are supposed to now compensate nurses more than many family docs? Talk about wage inflation spiral. If nurses make $275k I guess we have to pay teachers $200k and docs $1M now.

USA wages and cost of labor are out of control.


Okay. Then you go clean up vomit and puke for 12 hours straight. Have blood splattered on you. Deal with the trauma of seeing a 12 year old mangled by a tractor or fingers cut off by a lawn mower or a woman beaten up by her husband.

The nurses should get a raise.

Plus NYC is expensive.






Oh, I'm sure they're cleaning up vomit "for 12 hours straight". Is that in between the 10 hours they're sitting there doing nothing except scrolling on their phones the whole time?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NYC nurses striking claiming it is due to workload and staffing levels. Meanwhile, they're already making $165k and want to increase it up to $275k at some NY hospitals. GMAFB. That is grotesque overpay for a 4 year degree job. We are supposed to now compensate nurses more than many family docs? Talk about wage inflation spiral. If nurses make $275k I guess we have to pay teachers $200k and docs $1M now.

USA wages and cost of labor are out of control.


Okay. Then you go clean up vomit and puke for 12 hours straight. Have blood splattered on you. Deal with the trauma of seeing a 12 year old mangled by a tractor or fingers cut off by a lawn mower or a woman beaten up by her husband.

The nurses should get a raise.

Plus NYC is expensive.






Oh, I'm sure they're cleaning up vomit "for 12 hours straight". Is that in between the 10 hours they're sitting there doing nothing except scrolling on their phones the whole time?


Feel free to go get yourself hired a a nurse.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NYC nurses striking claiming it is due to workload and staffing levels. Meanwhile, they're already making $165k and want to increase it up to $275k at some NY hospitals. GMAFB. That is grotesque overpay for a 4 year degree job. We are supposed to now compensate nurses more than many family docs? Talk about wage inflation spiral. If nurses make $275k I guess we have to pay teachers $200k and docs $1M now.

USA wages and cost of labor are out of control.


Okay. Then you go clean up vomit and puke for 12 hours straight. Have blood splattered on you. Deal with the trauma of seeing a 12 year old mangled by a tractor or fingers cut off by a lawn mower or a woman beaten up by her husband.

The nurses should get a raise.

Plus NYC is expensive.






Oh, I'm sure they're cleaning up vomit "for 12 hours straight". Is that in between the 10 hours they're sitting there doing nothing except scrolling on their phones the whole time?


Feel free to go get yourself hired a a nurse.


+1

I barely peed some days, barely had time to eat lunch. What a jerk.
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