If anyone should be profiting off of sick people, it SHOULD be the nurses who are actually doing the day to day care of those people. I’m sure you have ZERO problems with insurance executives and hospital administrators making bank off of human suffering. |
This. Nursing staffing is the biggest budget and personnel number of any hospital and we can never keep up. For one 30ish bed med surg unit in an urban hospital, we had something like 50 nurses, 15 cnas, and a couple of unit clerks. Multiply that by 30 units, the ER which employs way more, plus the operating rooms, preop, postop, interventional radiology and other imaging services, endoscopy, and on and on... And all with specialized training to their area too. You think you can just replace them all? |
Omg....stop with the crappy comparison to a CEO. You know what the brutal reality is? EVERYONE in healthcare is overpaid, period. Docs, nurses, healthcareadministration, and hospital/insurance CEOs. You're all massively overpaid. That's why healthcare is bankruping the entire country and costs are out of control compared to the rest of the world. Too many layers of fat. Too many people making too much money when the rest of the world does the same jobs for a fraction of the price with similar or even better outcomes. $275k for nurses is way too much. $5M for execs is too much. Both can be true at the same time. |
Pay has never been based on 4 year degree or no degree. It’s based on skill, supply and demand and other factors. Maybe there is more value in city nurses than than family docs. |
Both could be true at the same time, but most nurses aren’t getting $275,000 and many CEOs are making more than $5 million. Do you want to cut costs, start at the top, then see how much you left over for actual patient care, which is what nursing represents. |
You must suck at math. 100 nurses making $275k. $27.5M in labor cost. Make the CEO earning $10M get $0. Nursing costs way more. Everyone in hc gets paid too much. They should cover medical procedures with American insurance or Medicare and allow people to travel abroad for procedures at prescreened hospitals for quality. Americans and our Healthcare system could get tons of procedures done for a fraction of the cost. HC jobs in the US that are now grossly overcompensated would have to compete globally in terms of salary. Even after factoring in having to pay for flights, which would be covered by insurance, it would still save massive amounts of money since American healthcare is so vastly overpriced. |
There are hundreds of thousands of h1bs from India ready to go. What is stopping us? Democrats have filed lawsuits against the new h1b fee to keep expanding h1bs Now is the time democrats |
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Maybe nurses should ask if you supported their strike before they provide services to you when you’re in the hospital.
Now you can go back to shopping at target. |
I’m not in the healthcare industry. Nurses are absolutely NOT overpaid. Nurses also don’t make $275K, stop lying. |
But the CEO is a no-value added drain on the system. We NEED nurses. So start there and stop whining about nurses. |
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But I thought women were supposed to work for free because they care about patients! Just like teachers are supposed to work for free because they care about kids.
Besides, everyone knows that nursing degrees are free and women only work as nurses until they get married (hopefully to a doctor!) /sarcasm. Check your privilege, posters. If you want a free market privatized health care system, then you need to accept free market private labor activity which drives some wages up and other wages down based on supply, demand, and of course coordinated activity. If you don’t like it, socialize healthcare and fix wages. |
FOR REAL. I personally know two sales people- one makes 300k+ and the other 1 million +. They travel a lot, drink a lot, and dress nicely. Oh and golf. So consumption consumption consumption. |
Because nurses normally run multimillion dollar healthcare businesses? The roles are different. The skills are different. The market decides the compensation for each. CEOs always make more money than others in any line of business, because their job function is valued more highly. If you don't like it, go be a CEO yourself. If you can. If you can't, that's a envy issue, reflecting your market value relative to that of those paid more highly whether CEOs or others. |
| The passage of the ACA is when the nursing burnout became real. Insurance/healthcare expansion meant any and everyone was finally going to the hospital. |
My point wasn’t that the CEO doesn’t make as much as all the nurses combined— it is that he’s less critical to patient outcomes which, we agree, is the point of healthcare? Plenty of people receive excellent care in hospitals where the CEO position is not filled. No one receives excellent care in a hospital with no nurses. |