How do you justify eating meat?

[Anonymous]

Is an egg inherently evil because it could have been a chicken?

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Anonymous wrote:Thinking about it as a political issue. What do you think the proper justification is for it, if any?

I’m likely the most progressive, farthest-left person on this entire forum, and I eat meat and fish.

Because I understand biology. Humans are omnivores. That’s not subject to argument. We have molar teeth for crushing plant and vegetable material, and we have incisor and canine teeth for biting and tearing flesh. We are dependent on large intake of animal protein and fat when young to achieve proper brain development. This is one thing that distinguishes us from the other high order primates, where fat and protein intake in young comes only from milk and stops at weaning.


Remove emotion. Remove whatever morality you think you have to abide by. Only consider the science. And the science tells us we should be omnivores. And science is truth.

[Anonymous]

This song, "Screams of the Vegetables," seems appropriate here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgjZc4x8JTU

[Anonymous]

I'm pretty sure Veganism is a corporate conspiracy to justify plastics and unhealthy lifestyle choices.

Wear polyester, eat Skittles go Vegan and be gay!

I mean I get people in South India can live on fish, eggs and Milk, no meat, but they have access to all kinds of high quality tropical foods.

Try being a locavore Vegan in Kansas? No coconut or avocado. Sprouts and fermented soy all winter long.

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Anonymous wrote:Thinking about it as a political issue. What do you think the proper justification is for it, if any?

It's delicious and nutritious. What exactly is your question?

Is the taste and nutrition of it justified when it ends someone else’s life? There are plenty of other options for delicious and nutritious food.

Someone else? Anthropomorphic much? And there's nothing as delicious as meat. To prove my point, there's no artificial artichoke or carrots made from meat. Yet there's artificial meat made from soybeans and peas. Why would a vegetarian want to eat fake meat if it weren't inherently more delicious?

Is an animal more of a someone or a something? It’s not a thing. It’s a living being. We’re all animals at the end of the day.

I’m not denying that meat tastes good. I’m asking if you think it’s ethically justified to kill an animal because you think its flesh tastes good?

Everything depends on your ethics standards. As Christian, we were told by God to eat meat. "Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you". With some limitations outlined in the Bible. But if you have different ethics standards then Christians, obviously you should follow your ethics.

If one believes that there was once an ark where exactly 2 of every animal on earth were permitted on board, what happened if one died along the way?

How did anyone maintain an adequate supply of correct food for every animal?

Were the cats not permitted to hunt rats and mice on the ark?

Was there only 1 hen and one rooster? Was the hen allowed to hatch her eggs? What if the hen died from being the only one that the rooster had to have sex with all day long? (Because that’s what they do)

I have never seen horses or dinosaurs or dogs depicted on the ark. What kind of dogs? Was it only one breed? Are all dogs today descended from … what were the dogs on the ark again?

Why weren’t there dinosaurs on the ark?

I have some Jesus Gun cousins who recently posted about having visited the Ark Encounter for vacation in MO? TN? I forget. One of those states. I saw a picture they took of themselves in front of a depiction of a caveman riding a dinosaur under SADDLE

Well, hen survived.

But not with eggs that would ever hatch into new chickens.

How does one even know if God is a “HE” … is there a DNA test? Does God have a penis? Does he even have hands to write the Bible?

English didn’t even exist in the supposed time of Jesus.

And to me there’s a good chance Jesus, however he existed, he was gay, hanging around with all those male disciples all the time

Y'all need to take this to the Religon forum.

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Anonymous wrote:Thinking about it as a political issue. What do you think the proper justification is for it, if any?

It's delicious and nutritious. What exactly is your question?

Is the taste and nutrition of it justified when it ends someone else’s life? There are plenty of other options for delicious and nutritious food.

Someone else? Anthropomorphic much? And there's nothing as delicious as meat. To prove my point, there's no artificial artichoke or carrots made from meat. Yet there's artificial meat made from soybeans and peas. Why would a vegetarian want to eat fake meat if it weren't inherently more delicious?

Is an animal more of a someone or a something? It’s not a thing. It’s a living being. We’re all animals at the end of the day.

I’m not denying that meat tastes good. I’m asking if you think it’s ethically justified to kill an animal because you think its flesh tastes good?

Everything depends on your ethics standards. As Christian, we were told by God to eat meat. "Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you". With some limitations outlined in the Bible. But if you have different ethics standards then Christians, obviously you should follow your ethics.

If one believes that there was once an ark where exactly 2 of every animal on earth were permitted on board, what happened if one died along the way?

How did anyone maintain an adequate supply of correct food for every animal?

Were the cats not permitted to hunt rats and mice on the ark?

Was there only 1 hen and one rooster? Was the hen allowed to hatch her eggs? What if the hen died from being the only one that the rooster had to have sex with all day long? (Because that’s what they do)

I have never seen horses or dinosaurs or dogs depicted on the ark. What kind of dogs? Was it only one breed? Are all dogs today descended from … what were the dogs on the ark again?

Why weren’t there dinosaurs on the ark?

I have some Jesus Gun cousins who recently posted about having visited the Ark Encounter for vacation in MO? TN? I forget. One of those states. I saw a picture they took of themselves in front of a depiction of a caveman riding a dinosaur under SADDLE

Well, hen survived.

But not with eggs that would ever hatch into new chickens.

How does one even know if God is a “HE” … is there a DNA test? Does God have a penis? Does he even have hands to write the Bible?

English didn’t even exist in the supposed time of Jesus.

And to me there’s a good chance Jesus, however he existed, he was gay, hanging around with all those male disciples all the time

Y'all need to take this to the Religon forum.

Agree. Religion has no place whatsoever in politics and government.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Thinking about it as a political issue. What do you think the proper justification is for it, if any?

Most of the reasons given, including on this board, is rooted in taste or want. I don’t eat meat as a personal preference. I think it’s gross. And it’s immoral in the way we do it now. Factory farming is a scourge. It is unethical. It is inhumane, it contributes to climate change, it contributes to antibiotic resistance, it contributes to pollution. And the suffering, those animals undergo from birth through slaughter is vile. I think it was Paul McCartney who said that if slaughter houses had glass walls, everyone would be vegetarian. And he’s not wrong about that.

There is a difference in raising animals, humanely and sustainably and intelligently and then they have “one bad day“. That is not how it’s done in this country and there is absolutely no reason that justifies or excuses it. This country eats an obscene amount of meat that is destroying the planet, is not always good for yourself given the amount of antibiotics and hormones, and is supremely cruel.


There are so many reasons people should at least cut down on their meat consumption. But they choose their own selfish desires or deliberately ignore all of the red flags associated with how we raise meat in this country

I personally know people who raise beef cattle and other animals this way, yes in this country. I will buy half a cow from them and freeze it. You don't know where my meat comes from, but I do. Focus on your own plate.

[Anonymous]

I personally don’t. I haven’t eaten meat in 40 years and don’t miss it. But I understand people who do and will make it for guests.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t. Because it not optimal and is inflammatory. Plant proteins are better sources. It’s a personal choice, though, I don’t care if others want to.

The volume of food you must eat to get 145g of protein (which is the amount recommended for someone my age, height, and weight) on a plant based diet is too much. I can’t eat that much. It’s easier to hit recommended protein goals with lean meats.

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Anonymous wrote:DH would love this question. He’s a carnivore but he swears in the future society is going to appalled and morally outraged that their ancestors ate meat.

Cows/cattle are so amazing for the environment.

Grazing animals contribute nutrients to the soil, promoting healthy plant growth and preventing fires.

There is a storyline companies offering fake meat/ plant-based meat and big Pharma are pushing that suggests beef production is harming our environment.

California is such a fire risk now. It used to be the land of buffalo and bison before we attacked Native Americans and buffalos off the land. Now the land is one big fire zone.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t. Because it not optimal and is inflammatory. Plant proteins are better sources. It’s a personal choice, though, I don’t care if others want to.

The volume of food you must eat to get 145g of protein (which is the amount recommended for someone my age, height, and weight) on a plant based diet is too much. I can’t eat that much. It’s easier to hit recommended protein goals with lean meats.

Americans are obsessed with protein. They’re not one with cholesterol or heart health, unfortunately.

https://www.uclahealth.org/news/article/is-plant-based-protein-for-you-heres-what-you-need-to-know

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t. I’ve been vegetarian for nearly four decades. But it’s my choice, I do it for ethical reasons, but I also recognize that we live in a meat-centric society and I don’t expect others to give it up because, as many have mentioned, they enjoy eating it.

Your ethics are questionable. As a vegetarian you eat living beings like plants. Don’t you care about plants? Aren’t you ashamed?

[Anonymous]

i don't need to justify it.

i just do.

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Anonymous wrote:You can't add morality to eating meat. It's the arrogance of humanity. Animals have been eating other animals since the beginning of time. The livestock species now literally wouldn't exist if humans hadn't cultivated them long ago. Next you're going to ask whether humans should have animals as pets.

No but you CAN have ethics about raising livestock and that is a major problem in our culture. We treat animals very badly. That is wrong. Anything short of hunting wild animals is unethical using the natural right justification.

What about all the millions of ants, bugs, and insects that you are killing during your everyday activities?
What happened to your sense of ethics?
Don't they have a right to live?

At least we raise animals for food to support our families.

[Anonymous]

Eating meat is MAGA.