Roofer didn't finish job because of ICE

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone that works for me has a work authorization, a green card or are natural born citizens however they are all brown and will no longer go to DC.

The ice agents can be brutal and with any large organization there are innocent victims of the chaos.
Everyone who works for me remembers another employee who was swept up a few years ago when ice arrived to serve a warrant at an apartment, the employee was born at Inova Fairfax, went to Stonewall in Manassas yet was held in detention for two weeks because the arresting agents did not believe or chose not to believe his credentials. He was locked in a nightmare while trying to contact family, or anyone who could get his birth certificate while locked in a chain-link cage in Gainesville. He was eventually let go without so much as a nod or an apology.
Imagine being removed from your life for three days let alone two weeks, imagine how long it would take to clean up the wreckage, that’s why brown people don’t want to go to DC. Your contractor isn’t playing games his men simply won’t go and I don’t blame them.

What kind of business? Name of it or website? If roofer, prices per square or sg ft on website?

It’s a roofing company, we don’t have a price per square, I don’t know anyone that does. $psf advertising is usually just for carpet and it’s almost always a bait and switch.

The central Americans I’ve worked with for the past 25 years are the absolute salt, their work ethic is near superhuman, done cheerfully and to the absolute best of their ability. Their appreciation and love for family, their drive to rise in the world honestly and their kindness is inspiring and has changed me. I’ve seen them face prejudice and shrug it off over the years but this is different, this hurts them.

Each wave of immigrants to America faces discrimination, Irish, Italians, eastern Europeans all get here and do the job no one else wants; eventually they wind up doing that awful job better than anyone. The second generation follows into that same rough business and starts their own and they rise, by the third generation no one remembers the struggle and you’re just American.
The workflow through immigration and rising through hard work is being interrupted by people who seem to be embarrassed that they’re being passed by those they deem as inferior. If I’m a white man you’ll just assume I belong here, but I as a second generation grandson of an Irish mason have the luck of skin color to let me past the gate, my brothers from Honduras are being treated unfairly and are finding the gate locked.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]Everyone that works for me[/b] has a work authorization, a green card or are natural born citizens however they are all brown and will no longer go to DC.

The ice agents can be brutal and with any large organization there are innocent victims of the chaos.
[b]Everyone who works for me[/b] remembers another employee who was swept up a few years ago when ice arrived to serve a warrant at an apartment, the employee was born at Inova Fairfax, went to Stonewall in Manassas yet was held in detention for two weeks because the arresting agents did not believe or chose not to believe his credentials. He was locked in a nightmare while trying to contact family, or anyone who could get his birth certificate while locked in a chain-link cage in Gainesville. He was eventually let go without so much as a nod or an apology.
Imagine being removed from your life for three days let alone two weeks, imagine how long it would take to clean up the wreckage, that’s why brown people don’t want to go to DC. Your contractor isn’t playing games his men simply won’t go and I don’t blame them.



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What kind of business? Name of it or website? If roofer, prices per square or sg ft on website?[/quote]

It’s a roofing company, we don’t have a price per square, I don’t know anyone that does. $psf advertising is usually just for carpet and it’s almost always a bait and switch.

The central Americans I’ve worked with for the past 25 years are the absolute salt, their work ethic is near superhuman, done cheerfully and to the absolute best of their ability. Their appreciation and love for family, their drive to rise in the world honestly and their kindness is inspiring and has changed me. I’ve seen them face prejudice and shrug it off over the years but this is different, this hurts them.

Each wave of immigrants to America faces discrimination, Irish, Italians, eastern Europeans all get here and do the job no one else wants; eventually they wind up doing that awful job better than anyone. The second generation follows into that same rough business and starts their own and they rise, by the third generation no one remembers the struggle and you’re just American.
The workflow through immigration and rising through hard work is being interrupted by people who seem to be embarrassed that they’re being passed by those they deem as inferior. If I’m a white man you’ll just assume I belong here, but I as a second generation grandson of an Irish mason have the luck of skin color to let me past the gate, my brothers from Honduras are being treated unfairly and are finding the gate locked.
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The INA was passed in the 50s. Whether you like it or not, it is the current immigration law. I don't understand why you think people breaking this law should be rewarded for breaking in line over those following the correct procedure, in many cases waiting over 20 years to come here.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]Everyone that works for me[/b] has a work authorization, a green card or are natural born citizens however they are all brown and will no longer go to DC.

The ice agents can be brutal and with any large organization there are innocent victims of the chaos.
[b]Everyone who works for me[/b] remembers another employee who was swept up a few years ago when ice arrived to serve a warrant at an apartment, the employee was born at Inova Fairfax, went to Stonewall in Manassas yet was held in detention for two weeks because the arresting agents did not believe or chose not to believe his credentials. He was locked in a nightmare while trying to contact family, or anyone who could get his birth certificate while locked in a chain-link cage in Gainesville. He was eventually let go without so much as a nod or an apology.
Imagine being removed from your life for three days let alone two weeks, imagine how long it would take to clean up the wreckage, that’s why brown people don’t want to go to DC. Your contractor isn’t playing games his men simply won’t go and I don’t blame them.



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What kind of business? Name of it or website? If roofer, prices per square or sg ft on website?[/quote]

It’s a roofing company, we don’t have a price per square, I don’t know anyone that does. $psf advertising is usually just for carpet and it’s almost always a bait and switch.

The central Americans I’ve worked with for the past 25 years are the absolute salt, their work ethic is near superhuman, done cheerfully and to the absolute best of their ability. Their appreciation and love for family, their drive to rise in the world honestly and their kindness is inspiring and has changed me. I’ve seen them face prejudice and shrug it off over the years but this is different, this hurts them.

Each wave of immigrants to America faces discrimination, Irish, Italians, eastern Europeans all get here and do the job no one else wants; eventually they wind up doing that awful job better than anyone. The second generation follows into that same rough business and starts their own and they rise, by the third generation no one remembers the struggle and you’re just American.
The workflow through immigration and rising through hard work is being interrupted by people who seem to be embarrassed that they’re being passed by those they deem as inferior. If I’m a white man you’ll just assume I belong here, but I as a second generation grandson of an Irish mason have the luck of skin color to let me past the gate, my brothers from Honduras are being treated unfairly and are finding the gate locked.
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The INA was passed in the 50s. Whether you like it or not, it is the current immigration law. I don't understand why you think people breaking this law should be rewarded for breaking in line over those following the correct procedure, in many cases waiting over 20 years to come here.[/quote]

I’m not talking about illegal immigrants, people that come here illegally roll the dice and are very well aware of the risks, I’m talking about people who are here with authorization and the extra layer of fear they are living under for having a certain complexion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You are just getting ripped off. You didn't pay full in advance for the siding did you?? If you did, live and learn.

Find a reputable place that doesn't hire illegals.

I feel like a proud student from Alabama University reading this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone that works for me has a work authorization, a green card or are natural born citizens however they are all brown and will no longer go to DC.

The ice agents can be brutal and with any large organization there are innocent victims of the chaos.
Everyone who works for me remembers another employee who was swept up a few years ago when ice arrived to serve a warrant at an apartment, the employee was born at Inova Fairfax, went to Stonewall in Manassas yet was held in detention for two weeks because the arresting agents did not believe or chose not to believe his credentials. He was locked in a nightmare while trying to contact family, or anyone who could get his birth certificate while locked in a chain-link cage in Gainesville. He was eventually let go without so much as a nod or an apology.
Imagine being removed from your life for three days let alone two weeks, imagine how long it would take to clean up the wreckage, that’s why brown people don’t want to go to DC. Your contractor isn’t playing games his men simply won’t go and I don’t blame them.

What kind of business? Name of it or website? If roofer, prices per square or sg ft on website?

It’s a roofing company, we don’t have a price per square, I don’t know anyone that does. $psf advertising is usually just for carpet and it’s almost always a bait and switch.

The central Americans I’ve worked with for the past 25 years are the absolute salt, their work ethic is near superhuman, done cheerfully and to the absolute best of their ability. Their appreciation and love for family, their drive to rise in the world honestly and their kindness is inspiring and has changed me. I’ve seen them face prejudice and shrug it off over the years but this is different, this hurts them.

Each wave of immigrants to America faces discrimination, Irish, Italians, eastern Europeans all get here and do the job no one else wants; eventually they wind up doing that awful job better than anyone. The second generation follows into that same rough business and starts their own and they rise, by the third generation no one remembers the struggle and you’re just American.
The workflow through immigration and rising through hard work is being interrupted by people who seem to be embarrassed that they’re being passed by those they deem as inferior. If I’m a white man you’ll just assume I belong here, but I as a second generation grandson of an Irish mason have the luck of skin color to let me past the gate, my brothers from Honduras are being treated unfairly and are finding the gate locked.

Website link then or call BS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so sad. I’m embarrassed for my country. Immigrants are so hardworking. America is going down the drain without them. Watch all the MAGA mansions fall apart in 3…2…1… and boom, no one to fix them.

You live in bizarro world.

https://www.npr.org/2024/04/26/1242236604/florida-economy-immigration-businesses-workers-undocumented

I know you won't read that article, but FL businesses (construction, farms) have suffered after FL passed stringent immigration rules.

Honestly, this dependency of cheap illegal labor didn’t happen overnight, it took many, many years. It might be painful for awhile, and “gasp” people might need to pay more for yardwork or construction if actual US citizens are paid to do the work, but in the long run it’s better for the country. Bringing in cheap labor to compete against the poorest Americans isn’t exactly a great thing to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so sad. I’m embarrassed for my country. Immigrants are so hardworking. America is going down the drain without them. Watch all the MAGA mansions fall apart in 3…2…1… and boom, no one to fix them.

You live in bizarro world.

https://www.npr.org/2024/04/26/1242236604/florida-economy-immigration-businesses-workers-undocumented

I know you won't read that article, but FL businesses (construction, farms) have suffered after FL passed stringent immigration rules.

Honestly, this dependency of cheap illegal labor didn’t happen overnight, it took many, many years. It might be painful for awhile, and “gasp” people might need to pay more for yardwork or construction if actual US citizens are paid to do the work, but in the long run it’s better for the country. Bringing in cheap labor to compete against the poorest Americans isn’t exactly a great thing to do.

THIS. So much of this.

Illegal immigration was a SCAM and EXPLOITATION of immigrants by the rich ruling socialists who want their cheap labor, and to keep American poor and blue collar workers "in their place" and dependent on them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so sad. I’m embarrassed for my country. Immigrants are so hardworking. America is going down the drain without them. Watch all the MAGA mansions fall apart in 3…2…1… and boom, no one to fix them.

You live in bizarro world.

https://www.npr.org/2024/04/26/1242236604/florida-economy-immigration-businesses-workers-undocumented

I know you won't read that article, but FL businesses (construction, farms) have suffered after FL passed stringent immigration rules.

Honestly, this dependency of cheap illegal labor didn’t happen overnight, it took many, many years. It might be painful for awhile, and “gasp” people might need to pay more for yardwork or construction if actual US citizens are paid to do the work, but in the long run it’s better for the country. Bringing in cheap labor to compete against the poorest Americans isn’t exactly a great thing to do.

THIS. So much of this.

Illegal immigration was a SCAM and EXPLOITATION of immigrants by the rich ruling socialists who want their cheap labor, and to keep American poor and blue collar workers "in their place" and dependent on them.

Generally, in the US, when someone is the victim of exploitation, we should aim to support them and punish the people exploiting them.

A route to legal status and throwing the employers in jail seems like the way to go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so sad. I’m embarrassed for my country. Immigrants are so hardworking. America is going down the drain without them. Watch all the MAGA mansions fall apart in 3…2…1… and boom, no one to fix them.

You live in bizarro world.

https://www.npr.org/2024/04/26/1242236604/florida-economy-immigration-businesses-workers-undocumented

I know you won't read that article, but FL businesses (construction, farms) have suffered after FL passed stringent immigration rules.

Honestly, this dependency of cheap illegal labor didn’t happen overnight, it took many, many years. It might be painful for awhile, and “gasp” people might need to pay more for yardwork or construction if actual US citizens are paid to do the work, but in the long run it’s better for the country. Bringing in cheap labor to compete against the poorest Americans isn’t exactly a great thing to do.

THIS. So much of this.

Illegal immigration was a SCAM and EXPLOITATION of immigrants by the rich ruling socialists who want their cheap labor, and to keep American poor and blue collar workers "in their place" and dependent on them.

Generally, in the US, when someone is the victim of exploitation, we should aim to support them and punish the people exploiting them.

A route to legal status and throwing the employers in jail seems like the way to go.

Definitely this.
But also deporting the criminals who came illegally.

Do you also suggest that breaking and entering into someone's home be rewarded with residency in that home?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so sad. I’m embarrassed for my country. Immigrants are so hardworking. America is going down the drain without them. Watch all the MAGA mansions fall apart in 3…2…1… and boom, no one to fix them.

You live in bizarro world.

https://www.npr.org/2024/04/26/1242236604/florida-economy-immigration-businesses-workers-undocumented

I know you won't read that article, but FL businesses (construction, farms) have suffered after FL passed stringent immigration rules.

Honestly, this dependency of cheap illegal labor didn’t happen overnight, it took many, many years. It might be painful for awhile, and “gasp” people might need to pay more for yardwork or construction if actual US citizens are paid to do the work, but in the long run it’s better for the country. Bringing in cheap labor to compete against the poorest Americans isn’t exactly a great thing to do.

THIS. So much of this.

Illegal immigration was a SCAM and EXPLOITATION of immigrants by the rich ruling socialists who want their cheap labor, and to keep American poor and blue collar workers "in their place" and dependent on them.

Generally, in the US, when someone is the victim of exploitation, we should aim to support them and punish the people exploiting them.

A route to legal status and throwing the employers in jail seems like the way to go.

So reward the criminals?
An analogy. If someone is robbing and raping a woman, and another criminal comes up and robs the robber/raper, but doesn't stop the raping and walks away, who do you punish?

The woman being raped and the second robber?????

[Anonymous]

Maybe the roofer owner is illegal himself and is afraid to come back and finish the job. ICE is nabbing people out of court rooms in Maryland.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are just getting ripped off. You didn't pay full in advance for the siding did you?? If you did, live and learn.

Find a reputable place that doesn't hire illegals.

Hehe, don't be fooled because all the "reputable places" hire illegals.

Even legal workers don't want to get picked up and taken away for who knows how long. He should give you any money back, but I appreciate that the company no longer wants to do business with that much danger for their workers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are just getting ripped off. You didn't pay full in advance for the siding did you?? If you did, live and learn.

Find a reputable place that doesn't hire illegals.

Hehe, don't be fooled because all the "reputable places" hire illegals.

Even legal workers don't want to get picked up and taken away for who knows how long. He should give you any money back, but I appreciate that the company no longer wants to do business with that much danger for their workers.

The house across the street from me just had a roof done last week, people are still working.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]Everyone that works for me[/b] has a work authorization, a green card or are natural born citizens however they are all brown and will no longer go to DC.

The ice agents can be brutal and with any large organization there are innocent victims of the chaos.
[b]Everyone who works for me[/b] remembers another employee who was swept up a few years ago when ice arrived to serve a warrant at an apartment, the employee was born at Inova Fairfax, went to Stonewall in Manassas yet was held in detention for two weeks because the arresting agents did not believe or chose not to believe his credentials. He was locked in a nightmare while trying to contact family, or anyone who could get his birth certificate while locked in a chain-link cage in Gainesville. He was eventually let go without so much as a nod or an apology.
Imagine being removed from your life for three days let alone two weeks, imagine how long it would take to clean up the wreckage, that’s why brown people don’t want to go to DC. Your contractor isn’t playing games his men simply won’t go and I don’t blame them.



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What kind of business? Name of it or website? If roofer, prices per square or sg ft on website?[/quote]

It’s a roofing company, we don’t have a price per square, I don’t know anyone that does. $psf advertising is usually just for carpet and it’s almost always a bait and switch.

The central Americans I’ve worked with for the past 25 years are the absolute salt, their work ethic is near superhuman, done cheerfully and to the absolute best of their ability. Their appreciation and love for family, their drive to rise in the world honestly and their kindness is inspiring and has changed me. I’ve seen them face prejudice and shrug it off over the years but this is different, this hurts them.

Each wave of immigrants to America faces discrimination, Irish, Italians, eastern Europeans all get here and do the job no one else wants; eventually they wind up doing that awful job better than anyone. The second generation follows into that same rough business and starts their own and they rise, by the third generation no one remembers the struggle and you’re just American.
The workflow through immigration and rising through hard work is being interrupted by people who seem to be embarrassed that they’re being passed by those they deem as inferior. If I’m a white man you’ll just assume I belong here, but I as a second generation grandson of an Irish mason have the luck of skin color to let me past the gate, my brothers from Honduras are being treated unfairly and are finding the gate locked.
[/quote]

The INA was passed in the 50s. Whether you like it or not, it is the current immigration law. I don't understand why you think people breaking this law should be rewarded for breaking in line over those following the correct procedure, in many cases waiting over 20 years to come here.[/quote]

are you unfamiliar with IRCA of 1986?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are just getting ripped off. You didn't pay full in advance for the siding did you?? If you did, live and learn.

Find a reputable place that doesn't hire illegals.

Hehe, don't be fooled because all the "reputable places" hire illegals.

Even legal workers don't want to get picked up and taken away for who knows how long. He should give you any money back, but I appreciate that the company no longer wants to do business with that much danger for their workers.

The house across the street from me just had a roof done last week, people are still working.

The music never stops.
Those who want to work will continue working and profit from it. Win-win.