Pseudo prestigious privates

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Anonymous wrote:Why is “harder to get into” relevant regarding quality of education?

There's hundreds of quality schools, we only care about the exclusive ones. We suddenly play facetious when it comes to Emory's (or schools like it) selectivity. Its great your DC can get an equal or near equal education at Uva, Wake, William and Mary etc. Your child still couldn't get into Emory or WashU and you know that matters or you wouldn't be so bitter about it.

My kid went to Northwestern, and I still don’t think difficulty of admission is relevant. Every December there are some products (Cabbage Patch dolls or whatever) that are hard to get. It could be because of great advertising, some famous person has one, or any other reason. Their difficulty to acquire doesn’t make them great, or even good. It just makes them popular. McDonald’s is popular…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is “harder to get into” relevant regarding quality of education?

News flash: you cannot attend if you don’t get in.

So?

Yeah, I guess it doesn’t matter. You can always be like Dustin Hoffman at Berkeley in the “Graduate”.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Poor OP, so insecure and miserable that they need to go online picking fights with people and pretending to be Ivies or bust.

Sucks to be you, I guess.

Not Ivy or bust at all. Just saying that private school parents who can’t get their kids into Ivies tell themselves that these schools are great just because they’re private and expensive — but they’re not great. At all. Many state flagships are better, certainly the ones around here.

Why can’t you just worry about your own kids? You are insufferable. Everyone isn’t looking to compete with your kid and many choose based on fit, not the “perceived prestige” you are obsessed with.

You really need help.

+1. Plenty of public school parents sending their kids to the supposedly Ivy-reject-private-school-parent-cope schools OP disdains. I know because my kid (who had no interest in the Ivies and did not apply) is at one of those schools and their roommate attended public school.

I love the “my kid had no interest in the Ivies” posters—what they really mean is that they knew the kid wouldn’t get in. There is not a kid enrolled in any of the schools on my list who wouldn’t be in an Ivy League school if they could get in.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not saying that these are bad schools. They're not. They're basically on the level of the better state flagships, which are also very good in many cases and great in others. So I'm left scratching my head over why families are picking them, and it can only come down to snobbery. Right? What am I missing?

But snobbery for what? If your kid goes to UVA, it's just as well respected and more so than virtually all of the schools on this list and for only half the price or less. People will argue that Wash U or Emory are "better" but their academic reputations aren't better and in fact UVA is ahead of both of them in its "peer assessment" score. At most, one can plausibly claim they're a "little" better but no so much as to justify the price.

The claim here that "you're jealous that you can't afford them" or the flagships are for poor kids is laughable. UVA is full of rich kids -- in fact, that's one of the most common knocks against it.

It can only be snobbery, but it's misplaced because the schools listed don't have real snob appeal.

Emory and UVa both have a 4.2 peer assessment score, stop lying. Emory is better overall because Emory wins cross admits according to parchment and its simply harder to get into. T25 privates are better than T25 publics but at the end of the day, Uva is still T25.

Parchment is fluff and doesn’t mean anything.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is “harder to get into” relevant regarding quality of education?

There's hundreds of quality schools, we only care about the exclusive ones. We suddenly play facetious when it comes to Emory's (or schools like it) selectivity. Its great your DC can get an equal or near equal education at Uva, Wake, William and Mary etc. Your child still couldn't get into Emory or WashU and you know that matters or you wouldn't be so bitter about it.

The majority of UVA students could get into Emory. No doubt about it. Most instate students don’t even think about Emory though because with UVA available going to Emory makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is “harder to get into” relevant regarding quality of education?

There's hundreds of quality schools, we only care about the exclusive ones. We suddenly play facetious when it comes to Emory's (or schools like it) selectivity. Its great your DC can get an equal or near equal education at Uva, Wake, William and Mary etc. Your child still couldn't get into Emory or WashU and you know that matters or you wouldn't be so bitter about it.

The majority of UVA students could get into Emory. No doubt about it. Most instate students don’t even think about Emory though because with UVA available going to Emory makes no sense.

UVA is an easier admit in-state than Emory. Not even close.
UVA is a much, much easier admit oos than Emory.

[Anonymous]

I haven’t read the replies, just came here to say why so judgmental OP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I haven’t read the replies, just came here to say why so judgmental OP?

In other words, “I have not read the replies,” but I deserve an answer anyhow, because I am the entitled sort.

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Anonymous wrote:We all know they're just expensive backups that are no better than the better state flagships, but private school parents have convinced themselves that they're prestigious.

In US News order:

WashU
Emory
NYU
BU
Wake
Northeastern
Tulane

NYU has a lot of issues. Too big. No campus. Job-central. These issues make it non-elite. But it's still a great school.

Agree on BU, Wake, NEU, and Tulane.

All positives. No other school in the US like it, although USC, UCLA and Cal are the closest. But none of them can match being educated in NYC.

USC is nothing like it. UCLA and UCB maybe but you just comp’d yourself to a pair of public’s…..which definitely aren’t elite except in the eyes of the middle class and immigrant engineering families.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Poor OP, so insecure and miserable that they need to go online picking fights with people and pretending to be Ivies or bust.

Sucks to be you, I guess.

Not Ivy or bust at all. Just saying that private school parents who can’t get their kids into Ivies tell themselves that these schools are great just because they’re private and expensive — but they’re not great. At all. Many state flagships are better, certainly the ones around here.

Why can’t you just worry about your own kids? You are insufferable. Everyone isn’t looking to compete with your kid and many choose based on fit, not the “perceived prestige” you are obsessed with.

You really need help.

+1. Plenty of public school parents sending their kids to the supposedly Ivy-reject-private-school-parent-cope schools OP disdains. I know because my kid (who had no interest in the Ivies and did not apply) is at one of those schools and their roommate attended public school.

I love the “my kid had no interest in the Ivies” posters—what they really mean is that they knew the kid wouldn’t get in. There is not a kid enrolled in any of the schools on my list who wouldn’t be in an Ivy League school if they could get in.

You’re absolutely right-my kid who’s at one of the schools on OP’s list (top 10% of class at strong private, 1500+ SAT, regular EC’s no hooks, average-excellent, less competitive major) knew they couldn’t get into the Ivies in today’s admissions climate, and focused instead on putting together a well-thought-out balanced list of colleges where they had a realistic chance. Much happier outcome than if they had tried to shotgun the T-20’s hoping for a hit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Poor OP, so insecure and miserable that they need to go online picking fights with people and pretending to be Ivies or bust.

Sucks to be you, I guess.

Not Ivy or bust at all. Just saying that private school parents who can’t get their kids into Ivies tell themselves that these schools are great just because they’re private and expensive — but they’re not great. At all. Many state flagships are better, certainly the ones around here.

Why can’t you just worry about your own kids? You are insufferable. Everyone isn’t looking to compete with your kid and many choose based on fit, not the “perceived prestige” you are obsessed with.

You really need help.

+1. Plenty of public school parents sending their kids to the supposedly Ivy-reject-private-school-parent-cope schools OP disdains. I know because my kid (who had no interest in the Ivies and did not apply) is at one of those schools and their roommate attended public school.

I love the “my kid had no interest in the Ivies” posters—what they really mean is that they knew the kid wouldn’t get in. There is not a kid enrolled in any of the schools on my list who wouldn’t be in an Ivy League school if they could get in.

Really? Mine didn’t apply to a single Ivy yet got into MIT. She didn’t vibe with the obsession at her school and then didn’t really love any of them. She didn’t attend MIT in the end either and chose CalTech. In the end location won.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I haven’t read the replies, just came here to say why so judgmental OP?

In other words, “I have not read the replies,” but I deserve an answer anyhow, because I am the entitled sort.

No l didn’t expect a reply. It was meant to prompt self rejection. Why do you care? (I also don’t expect a response to that one)

[Anonymous]

lol. Self reflection

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is “harder to get into” relevant regarding quality of education?

There's hundreds of quality schools, we only care about the exclusive ones. We suddenly play facetious when it comes to Emory's (or schools like it) selectivity. Its great your DC can get an equal or near equal education at Uva, Wake, William and Mary etc. Your child still couldn't get into Emory or WashU and you know that matters or you wouldn't be so bitter about it.

The majority of UVA students could get into Emory. No doubt about it. Most instate students don’t even think about Emory though because with UVA available going to Emory makes no sense.

UVA is an easier admit in-state than Emory. Not even close.
UVA is a much, much easier admit oos than Emory.

Not sure where you are going with this, Emory is a prettty easy admit ED from most private high schools. It has over a 30 percent admit rate. OOS UVA admit is below 20 percent.

[Anonymous]

I legitimately do not understand OP's animosity, or criticism.

Is it just the $$?

No one is arguing that these schools are more prestigious than the top ten schools, but LORD, virtually no one gets into the top ten schools.

There are lots of academically motivated kids who get rejected from Ivys and they end up at schools like these.

And they have a great four years, and matriculate to great careers.