Real Concern: Does Hazing still happen in the Greek system?

[Anonymous]

Just had dinner with a friend. Her kid rushed last year and shared some things. Sounded similar to my day. One thing he shared was 8 pledges locked in a shed with four cases of beer and a bucket and couldn’t leave until gone. We drank way too much in our day too with activities. That’s the big part I don’t like, I had hoped the healthier lifestyle many kids have embraced would have changed this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:W&M has a very well monitored system. I haven't heard of any hazing in the sorority system. None when I was there, haven't heard of any when my daughter was there. Not that something couldn't happen, but it's not a major issue. My son just joined a fraternity and has had no issues. Just a nice social group. There have been some sporadic issues with fraternities in the past, but those fraternities have been removed from campus if the issue is significant.

https://www.wtkr.com/2017/12/01/william-mary-sorority-suspended-for-hazing-violations

Not one of the 10 main social sororities, which I should have specified.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Holy crap. As a mother of a kid who enjoys his social “partying” and is looking into frats, this is all scarier than I imagined.

I’ve done my best to limit SEC apps but it can really happen anywhere. Handles of JD taped into one’s hand is the most frightening thing.

You actually think hazing only happens within the SEC?

[Anonymous]

Here is W&Ms hazing reports. The college pays attention and there are sanctions when it happens.

https://www.wm.edu/offices/communityvalues/sarp/org_discipline/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:W&M has a very well monitored system. I haven't heard of any hazing in the sorority system. None when I was there, haven't heard of any when my daughter was there. Not that something couldn't happen, but it's not a major issue. My son just joined a fraternity and has had no issues. Just a nice social group. There have been some sporadic issues with fraternities in the past, but those fraternities have been removed from campus if the issue is significant.

https://www.wtkr.com/2017/12/01/william-mary-sorority-suspended-for-hazing-violations

Not one of the 10 main social sororities, which I should have specified.

https://flathatnews.com/2019/12/02/fraternities-sororities-suspended-following-increased-hazing-reports/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not really hazing, but more of a “trust exercise,” but expect sorority pledges to have to disrobe in front of their sisters, at least once in private. It’s widespread and normal.

So do you only trust people you’ve seen naked? This makes no sense and is far from normal. The pilot doesn’t come out of the cockpit nude and yet you still trust them to fly your plane. In fact, I’d wager you wouldn’t trust a pilot who did this.

What? We didn't have anything like that when I was pledging.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:W&M has a very well monitored system. I haven't heard of any hazing in the sorority system. None when I was there, haven't heard of any when my daughter was there. Not that something couldn't happen, but it's not a major issue. My son just joined a fraternity and has had no issues. Just a nice social group. There have been some sporadic issues with fraternities in the past, but those fraternities have been removed from campus if the issue is significant.

https://www.wtkr.com/2017/12/01/william-mary-sorority-suspended-for-hazing-violations

Not one of the 10 main social sororities, which I should have specified.

https://flathatnews.com/2019/12/02/fraternities-sororities-suspended-following-increased-hazing-reports/

Yes, there are sporadic issues. Fraternities are removed from campus for major infractions. The college pays attention.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:W&M has a very well monitored system. I haven't heard of any hazing in the sorority system. None when I was there, haven't heard of any when my daughter was there. Not that something couldn't happen, but it's not a major issue. My son just joined a fraternity and has had no issues. Just a nice social group. There have been some sporadic issues with fraternities in the past, but those fraternities have been removed from campus if the issue is significant.

W&M has had plenty of hazing incidents, as cited in the above posts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, hazing isn’t common at all among sororities. It’s the fraternities where this tradition unfortunately lives on.

Sororities never pressure candidates to have sex with actives/candidates from favored fraternities?

No

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:W&M has a very well monitored system. I haven't heard of any hazing in the sorority system. None when I was there, haven't heard of any when my daughter was there. Not that something couldn't happen, but it's not a major issue. My son just joined a fraternity and has had no issues. Just a nice social group. There have been some sporadic issues with fraternities in the past, but those fraternities have been removed from campus if the issue is significant.

W&M has had plenty of hazing incidents, as cited in the above posts.

the number per year is not high, many years with none.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here is W&Ms hazing reports. The college pays attention and there are sanctions when it happens.

https://www.wm.edu/offices/communityvalues/sarp/org_discipline/

Thank you!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry to be naive but are girls fully naked during this process, or in underwear (not that this isn’t horrid)?

Depends; varies by sorority, university, etc. and as a PP said: this is all private and kept very secret. Sisters are coached and sworn to secrecy.

A little Harvey Weinstein-ish, no? Get naked and I’ll let you participate. Creepy

[Anonymous]

I can't imagine what would be worth this sort of humiliation. I went to a university that banned fraternities and sororities. I can't imagine putting up with that kind of treatment.

[Anonymous]

I have heard of hazing like that in off campus sororities. One of my friends in the 80s had some weird hazing initiation with hers. No nakedness in my sorority initiation or any of my friends in the Panhellenic sanctioned sororities.

[Anonymous]

Does the hazing continue all four years?