Real Concern: Does Hazing still happen in the Greek system?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was in an SEC sorority as were many of my friends and I can confidently report that hazing is incredibly rare. Sororities do NOT eff around with that because nationals will have your head if it gets back to them. We were basically showered with gifts instead.

Fraternities…different story

No hazing except for the list of men you had to sleep with from the frats with close ties.

Lol, ummm no. Where do you people come up with this stuff?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was in an SEC sorority as were many of my friends and I can confidently report that hazing is incredibly rare. Sororities do NOT eff around with that because nationals will have your head if it gets back to them. We were basically showered with gifts instead.

Fraternities…different story

No hazing except for the list of men you had to sleep with from the frats with close ties.

I was in a top sorority in the 1980s at an SEC school.

No I didn't have to sleep with anyone. Nor did any of our pledges. I was never hated nor did I haze anyone.

Frats did have hazing.

Ditto at my SEC school, in the 2010s. I’m not saying it didn’t happen at some or doesn’t happen elsewhere, but it did not happen in my house or any houses that my high school friends joined. I don’t think I can express how seriously this was taken. Anything that could even remotely be considered hazing—I’m talking something as simple as setting up a new member scavenger hunt for big/little—was not allowed. Nationals would punish houses and pull charters over this. We did not mess around. My new member period was nothing but months of women being exceptionally nice and trying to make me feel welcome.

[Anonymous]

I was in a top 3 sorority in the 90s at UNC (and had many friends in the other 2) and there was ZERO hazing. None.

Didn’t hear about any either at UVA from my friends in Kappa, Theta, Tri Delt or Pi Phi.

I am sure some hazing happened at some schools but those are serious outliners. I have heard about hazing from athletic teams, esp in high schools. But sororities in college, no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, of course.

And it happens outside of frats.

My college banned frats for hazing and then found the various clubs picked up the slack... the theater society or whatever it was was vicious—it was different vicious, no dog cages and elephant walks, but it was cruel, involved drugs, alcohol, sexual humiliation and sleep deprivation.

Hell, I was the editor in chief of the student paper and we hazed the shit out of freshmen writers.

18-22 kids who are offered power/freedom from adult supervision are very mean to newbies.

My DS played D3 baseball at a college that does not have fraternities and sororities - he just graduated so was a freshman in 2021-22. His baseball team hazed the freshmen players. I found out his freshman year. One of his fellow freshman teammates ended up in the emergency room with serious alcohol poisoning after a hazing party.

Ugh . . . do you mind saying where? My DS is on the verge of committing to play at an academic D3 school without a Greek system, and this concern has been on the back of my mind. A former Seton Hall player recently sued the school, alleging that the baseball coach there turned a blind eye to violent hazing there. I worry that this is more common than parents think.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was in an SEC sorority as were many of my friends and I can confidently report that hazing is incredibly rare. Sororities do NOT eff around with that because nationals will have your head if it gets back to them. We were basically showered with gifts instead.

Fraternities…different story

No hazing except for the list of men you had to sleep with from the frats with close ties.

I was in a top sorority in the 1980s at an SEC school.

No I didn't have to sleep with anyone. Nor did any of our pledges. I was never hated nor did I haze anyone.

Frats did have hazing.

Ditto at my SEC school, in the 2010s. I’m not saying it didn’t happen at some or doesn’t happen elsewhere, but it did not happen in my house or any houses that my high school friends joined. I don’t think I can express how seriously this was taken. Anything that could even remotely be considered hazing—I’m talking something as simple as setting up a new member scavenger hunt for big/little—was not allowed. Nationals would punish houses and pull charters over this. We did not mess around. My new member period was nothing but months of women being exceptionally nice and trying to make me feel welcome.

Huge night and day difference between sororities and fraternities. Frats still haze today and it's a huge part of the pledging experience that go on for months. Most sororities don't have hazing although a small number do.

[Anonymous]

Yes, it still happens. Lots of examples at UMD last year

[Anonymous]

Cornell frat hazing. Search online.
It’s really bad. Lasts 3 months I think?

[Anonymous]

It’s not really hazing, but more of a “trust exercise,” but expect sorority pledges to have to disrobe in front of their sisters, at least once in private. It’s widespread and normal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids were Greek at UVA never personally experienced hazing at any time. My DS chose a fraternity that was known for not hazing and yes there were definitely some houses that did haze and subsequently got in trouble (kicked off). So the answer is yes it still happens but not in every chapter.

BS your kid did not tell you.

They all haze

No they don’t.

I was in a sorority. I wasn’t hazed.
My daughter is in a sorority. She hasn’t been hazed.

There’s enough falsehood flying around right now. Don’t add to it just to support your beliefs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s not really hazing, but more of a “trust exercise,” but expect sorority pledges to have to disrobe in front of their sisters, at least once in private. It’s widespread and normal.

BS.

This also doesn't happen.

[Anonymous]

Hazing is serious problem with Greeks. Someone dies every couple of years. Most Greeks have experienced blacking out, many become alcoholics later in life, which also leads to early death. Hazing didn’t really start until after WW2 when all of the soldiers returning from the war used the newly established GI bill to go to college. Prior to WW2 it was really focused on philanthropy and being scholarly. Wish it would revert to what it was back in 1890s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hazing is serious problem with Greeks. Someone dies every couple of years. Most Greeks have experienced blacking out, many become alcoholics later in life, which also leads to early death. Hazing didn’t really start until after WW2 when all of the soldiers returning from the war used the newly established GI bill to go to college. Prior to WW2 it was really focused on philanthropy and being scholarly. Wish it would revert to what it was back in 1890s.

I’ve heard that sororities (and the Greek system in general) at W&M is more like this. Anyone have experience with Greek life at W&M, specifically sororities?

My daughter has expressed interest since she’s heard there it’s more about a group for camaraderie, study partners, and service. She’s not interested in Greek life as depicted on Bama Rush but people tell her the scene at W&M is very different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hazing is serious problem with Greeks. Someone dies every couple of years. Most Greeks have experienced blacking out, many become alcoholics later in life, which also leads to early death. Hazing didn’t really start until after WW2 when all of the soldiers returning from the war used the newly established GI bill to go to college. Prior to WW2 it was really focused on philanthropy and being scholarly. Wish it would revert to what it was back in 1890s.

I’ve heard that sororities (and the Greek system in general) at W&M is more like this. Anyone have experience with Greek life at W&M, specifically sororities?

My daughter has expressed interest since she’s heard there it’s more about a group for camaraderie, study partners, and service. She’s not interested in Greek life as depicted on Bama Rush but people tell her the scene at W&M is very different.

Bama Rush sounds more fun and the kids are definitely cuter!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not really hazing, but more of a “trust exercise,” but expect sorority pledges to have to disrobe in front of their sisters, at least once in private. It’s widespread and normal.

BS.

This also doesn't happen.

This for sure happened to me and I would be shocked if it wasn't still happening many places. I would wager we weren't the only sorority that had to wear robes for the initiation ritual. It was more of a mental game. All assembled in a group in a room with the infamous sharpies. Chatter leading up to it about circled fat so idea was in your head. Then we have to strip down to bra and underwear before receiving a robe one by one. it was awkward and uncomfortable. I am sure the sharpie thing has long since played out, but for sure girls are getting undressed in groups and led around in robes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s not really hazing, but more of a “trust exercise,” but expect sorority pledges to have to disrobe in front of their sisters, at least once in private. It’s widespread and normal.

This is an old urban legend. I heard this was going to happen in the early 90s when I pledged and nope. Not at my sorority, not for any of my friends in other sororities, not for any of my relatives or their children who rushed, not for my kid or any of her friends now.

Trolls have really taken over DCUM in the last year with intensity. It’s a real shame because this website has been so helpful in the past as a good parenting resource. Now let board warrior trolls have ruined it.