Are they crazy in Florida?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder what doctors and scientists have to say about this at the University of Florida.

Not everyone in Florida is crazy. People need to speak up.

Exemptions, sure. That gives you freedom. But eliminating mandates, no.

Had relatives who were on faculty at the UF Med School. I just feel so bad for the UF faculty. They are trying to keep their chin up and push back on things they can. Florida spent 50 years developing a world class med school and associated research facilities at UF. Let's see how quickly they can burn it all down.

[Anonymous]

It’s a shame really. All of it.

[Anonymous]

Great, first I can’t get a Covid vaccine without a prescription now this bullshit? Where’s the “don’t tell others what to do with their bodies” when it comes to abortion?


Anti science, anti truth, anti reason, anti knowledge pro conspiracy pro gun pro death cult.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hate to interrupt the kvechting, but how about we add some data to this. How many people died of measles in 1960? Pick any other disease you are terrified of and check a year just before the vaccine.

That’s your worst case scenario, which also assumes sanitation, nutrition and medical treatment also rolls back that far.

And lastly, compare those numbers to road deaths.

I can’t find 1960 but in 1980 worldwide 810,000. In the Americas 7000 and in Europe, 10,000.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/deaths-due-to-measles-by-region

Chicken pox is easier -- 145 days per year in the years prior to vaccination. But focusing on deaths is really the wrong number. Lots of kids who got measles and didn't die were rendered blind, or permanent sterile, or had other serious complications.

I had chicken pox a couple of years before the vaccine. I missed a month of school and had litterally thousands of chicken pox with lifetime scarring. Not that huge a deal, but it could have been worse -- I had multiple days with my temperature at or over 104 even with Tylenol. I barely remember those days as I was in and out of consciousness but remember the ice baths and the fact that I wasn't really allowed to eat (even if I could) because food would raise my body temperature. (Starve a fever.) I was really lucky not to have febrile seizures or any brain damage. My mother was a nurse so was pretty on top of it. I also infected at least a dozen people during the 1 hour I was at school before they sent me home -- including someone whose father was immunocompromised and also got sick. I got it from a preschooler who was basically asymptomatic -- he had like 2 pox marks and was running and playing, so that could totally be a kid at school, at Disney, at the playground or mall or whatever.

[Anonymous]

Does anyone know if individual school districts can mandate it even if it's not state law? Many of the individual localities in Florida are pretty sane and I'm sure those school districts would prefer to keep the vaccination. Can you imagine being a pregnant teacher (which like 10% of teachers are pretty much every year), or an immunocompromised teacher, and having to walk into a school full of unvaccinated kids? It's hard enough to keep people in the teaching field -- this stuff really doesn't help.

[Anonymous]

I initially thought that this meant mandate for the COVID vaccine, so this is for any vaccine?

Yes Florida is a hell

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I initially thought that this meant mandate for the COVID vaccine, so this is for any vaccine?

Yes Florida is a hell

All vaccines including tetanus

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if individual school districts can mandate it even if it's not state law? Many of the individual localities in Florida are pretty sane and I'm sure those school districts would prefer to keep the vaccination. Can you imagine being a pregnant teacher (which like 10% of teachers are pretty much every year), or an immunocompromised teacher, and having to walk into a school full of unvaccinated kids? It's hard enough to keep people in the teaching field -- this stuff really doesn't help.

Whatever the legislature decides. With covid stuff the legislature banned local governments from setting their own requirements.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hate to interrupt the kvechting, but how about we add some data to this. How many people died of measles in 1960? Pick any other disease you are terrified of and check a year just before the vaccine.

That’s your worst case scenario, which also assumes sanitation, nutrition and medical treatment also rolls back that far.

And lastly, compare those numbers to road deaths.

I can’t find 1960 but in 1980 worldwide 810,000. In the Americas 7000 and in Europe, 10,000.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/deaths-due-to-measles-by-region

Chicken pox is easier -- 145 days per year in the years prior to vaccination. But focusing on deaths is really the wrong number. Lots of kids who got measles and didn't die were rendered blind, or permanent sterile, or had other serious complications.

I had chicken pox a couple of years before the vaccine. I missed a month of school and had litterally thousands of chicken pox with lifetime scarring. Not that huge a deal, but it could have been worse -- I had multiple days with my temperature at or over 104 even with Tylenol. I barely remember those days as I was in and out of consciousness but remember the ice baths and the fact that I wasn't really allowed to eat (even if I could) because food would raise my body temperature. (Starve a fever.) I was really lucky not to have febrile seizures or any brain damage. My mother was a nurse so was pretty on top of it. I also infected at least a dozen people during the 1 hour I was at school before they sent me home -- including someone whose father was immunocompromised and also got sick. I got it from a preschooler who was basically asymptomatic -- he had like 2 pox marks and was running and playing, so that could totally be a kid at school, at Disney, at the playground or mall or whatever.

And measles was 450. The point being the numbers are so small that many vaccines may not even produce a net positive. You can’t just pretend there is no risk in vaccines either. So they rarely net out. It’s why no one wants to be fiscally responsible for them.