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Anonymous wrote:Wow—won’t be long before BASIS DC, a 100% lottery school, ranks above Walls, which only takes straight A students.

That is totally misleading. Yes, basis accepts by lottery -- in 5th grade. It then forces out kids who aren't successful and refuses to accept any new students for 9th grade.

Oh stop. There's lots of schools in DC that have similar policies. BASIS is not unique.

Really? Name one.

Every bilingual school in the city?

What on earth are you talking about. That's definitely not true. Name even one school that does that, with cites. LAMB and YY stop accepting kids at a certain grade but they don't require anyone to repeat grades.

No one ever raised the issue of repeating grades, except for you.

You said "similar policies", and incentivizing kids to leave with developmentally inappropriate retention policies is key to how BASIS operates.

It seems very DC that people hate BASIS, one of the best schools in the city, but they have no problem with the dozens and dozens of steaming piles of shit that pass for public schools in this city.

No, it's because BASIS boosters are narcissistic and annoying, and they're constantly claiming that BASIS is the best when really it's a selective school pretending not to be selective, so the comparison isn't meaningful.

Seems like an abuse of the word selective. Were you required to submit test scores or grades or a writing sample or literally anything at all when you applied to BASIS? No, you were not.

You can say there's self selection going on, but that happens across the city. Hard to go to any public school WOTP without being able to afford a $2 million house.

Why don't you explain to us what's required to be promoted from 6th grade to 7th grade at BASIS. That's where it is selective.

Why don't you explain to us why there's a wealth test that parents must pass before they can send their kids to Janney and Deal and JK? That's where it is selective.

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I'd rather have a school have high academic standards, and stick to those standards, than have a school that discriminates against children whose parents don't happen to be rich.

Which school would that be? If it's not BASIS, then why does BASIS have a lower economically disadvantaged percentage than JR and Deal?

Remind me which neighborhoods you're required to live in before your kid can attend BASIS.

It's not a requirement of JR or Deal either. There are non-residential ways to get in, such as through feeder schools.

It's not a requirement if you went to Janney! Which school, BASIS or JR, takes kids who live in Congress Heights?

A rising 9th grader, enrolling as a new student? Neither.

Disingenuous much? If you're going into fifth grade and you have the right lottery number, BASIS doesnt care where you live or how poor you are. That's a different universe from how WOTP schools operate.

Right, they only care if you're below grade level and will push you out. Unlike Ward 3 schools, who will continue to serve the child in an age-appropriate setting.

Is reading Animal Farm in 12th grade age appropriate?

I think everyone with half a brain understands that going to BASIS is perhaps a bit like going to MIT. It's not going to be fun, and you're going to miss out on a lot of normal kid stuff, but on the other hand, you'll get a terrific education.

MIT can be fun. Some of their frat parties can be nuts and attract kids from neighboring schools. They also offer every NCAA sport and win D3 championships in a number of sports.

I don’t think there is a US college you can compare to BASIS because no US college believe an absence of sports, clubs and all kinds of other non-academic activities makes for a great college experience.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow—won’t be long before BASIS DC, a 100% lottery school, ranks above Walls, which only takes straight A students.

That is totally misleading. Yes, basis accepts by lottery -- in 5th grade. It then forces out kids who aren't successful and refuses to accept any new students for 9th grade.

Oh stop. There's lots of schools in DC that have similar policies. BASIS is not unique.

Really? Name one.

Every bilingual school in the city?

What on earth are you talking about. That's definitely not true. Name even one school that does that, with cites. LAMB and YY stop accepting kids at a certain grade but they don't require anyone to repeat grades.

No one ever raised the issue of repeating grades, except for you.

You said "similar policies", and incentivizing kids to leave with developmentally inappropriate retention policies is key to how BASIS operates.

It seems very DC that people hate BASIS, one of the best schools in the city, but they have no problem with the dozens and dozens of steaming piles of shit that pass for public schools in this city.

The arrogance of BASIS posters to call all the other schools in the city "steaming piles of shit" is why people hate to see them coming. Maybe try appreciating what other schools add to the DC ecosystem. There are good and even excellent schools on both sides of the park. Basis is not the only or even, necessarily, the best middle school or high school. Finding the best fit for each kid is the goal. Why not acknowledge that BASIS is a good fit for some, and not for others. For this reason it's a GOOD thing that many different schools are available to educate our students.

Again, arrogant BASIS posters provoke a negative reaction from parents at other schools. This should not be a surprise to anyone.

THIS. So tiring all the Basis booster threads in the past few months. Just stop.

is the waitlist moving a lot and why the families need to do this?

No, it's because defensive BASIS boosters know their school is mid so they never miss an opportunity to push their talking points.

Don’t want to be mean but Latin is mid. Its biggest positive is that white kids go there.

So you're dumb...and racist?

Most DC high schools have a literal handful of white kids in each grade. There's nothing wrong with wanting there to be 15 white kids in a class of 200 kids. If black parents are allowed to want that for their kids, white parents are too.

It's striking how ignorant you are of DC schools. Do you live actually here?

Here are the numbers of white kids in each high school for 2023-2024. As of that year, most high schools did indeed have around five or fewer white students per grade. Would love to see updated numbers if anyone feels like updating.


Ballou 0
Bard High School Early College 1
Anacostia 1
Maya Angelou 1
Statesman College Preparatory Academy 1
Luke C Moore 1
Woodson 1
Paul High School 2
Phelps 3
Roosevelt STAY 4
EL Haynes 4
Perry Street Prep 4
Washington Leadership Academy 5
Dunbar 3
Coolidge 6
Cap City 7
Roosevelt High School 9
CHEC 13
Eastern 21
Sojourner truth 25
Mc Kinley Tech 24
Banneker 37
MacArthur 52
Duke Ellington 92
Basis 116
DCI 173
Washington Latin 143
School Without Walls 283
Jackson-Reed 722

Well, no surprises here. If white is proxy for higher performing it’s the 3 popular charters (DCI, Latin, Basis) and SWW and JR.

The thing is, though, that, at the high school level, white is not a proxy for high performing. If you cross-reference this list with the highest performers on CAPE or USNWR, several schools with higher white populations were out-performed by schools with fewer white studetns.

Please do a review in statistics because a small sample size is not statistically significant.

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Anonymous wrote:Can we please stop discussing BASIS? absolutely everything that needs to be said about the school has been said.

There are so many more schools to discuss. What about McKinley Tech, which is now #5 and has seen a huge jump in test scores this year?

I'd probably put Latin ahead of Banneker.

There is no dcps that is better than a charter in this city. Sorry. Walls used to be the exception, but now it’s full of kids with below grade level test scores with a 4.0 gpa from a bad middle school. Pass.

Walls is the highest ranked HS in DC…by a pretty wide margin.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow—won’t be long before BASIS DC, a 100% lottery school, ranks above Walls, which only takes straight A students.

That is totally misleading. Yes, basis accepts by lottery -- in 5th grade. It then forces out kids who aren't successful and refuses to accept any new students for 9th grade.

Oh stop. There's lots of schools in DC that have similar policies. BASIS is not unique.

Really? Name one.

Every bilingual school in the city?

What on earth are you talking about. That's definitely not true. Name even one school that does that, with cites. LAMB and YY stop accepting kids at a certain grade but they don't require anyone to repeat grades.

No one ever raised the issue of repeating grades, except for you.

You said "similar policies", and incentivizing kids to leave with developmentally inappropriate retention policies is key to how BASIS operates.

It seems very DC that people hate BASIS, one of the best schools in the city, but they have no problem with the dozens and dozens of steaming piles of shit that pass for public schools in this city.

The arrogance of BASIS posters to call all the other schools in the city "steaming piles of shit" is why people hate to see them coming. Maybe try appreciating what other schools add to the DC ecosystem. There are good and even excellent schools on both sides of the park. Basis is not the only or even, necessarily, the best middle school or high school. Finding the best fit for each kid is the goal. Why not acknowledge that BASIS is a good fit for some, and not for others. For this reason it's a GOOD thing that many different schools are available to educate our students.

Again, arrogant BASIS posters provoke a negative reaction from parents at other schools. This should not be a surprise to anyone.

THIS. So tiring all the Basis booster threads in the past few months. Just stop.

is the waitlist moving a lot and why the families need to do this?

No, it's because defensive BASIS boosters know their school is mid so they never miss an opportunity to push their talking points.

Don’t want to be mean but Latin is mid. Its biggest positive is that white kids go there.

So you're dumb...and racist?

Most DC high schools have a literal handful of white kids in each grade. There's nothing wrong with wanting there to be 15 white kids in a class of 200 kids. If black parents are allowed to want that for their kids, white parents are too.

It's striking how ignorant you are of DC schools. Do you live actually here?

Here are the numbers of white kids in each high school for 2023-2024. As of that year, most high schools did indeed have around five or fewer white students per grade. Would love to see updated numbers if anyone feels like updating.


Ballou 0
Bard High School Early College 1
Anacostia 1
Maya Angelou 1
Statesman College Preparatory Academy 1
Luke C Moore 1
Woodson 1
Paul High School 2
Phelps 3
Roosevelt STAY 4
EL Haynes 4
Perry Street Prep 4
Washington Leadership Academy 5
Dunbar 3
Coolidge 6
Cap City 7
Roosevelt High School 9
CHEC 13
Eastern 21
Sojourner truth 25
Mc Kinley Tech 24
Banneker 37
MacArthur 52
Duke Ellington 92
Basis 116
DCI 173
Washington Latin 143
School Without Walls 283
Jackson-Reed 722

Well, no surprises here. If white is proxy for higher performing it’s the 3 popular charters (DCI, Latin, Basis) and SWW and JR.

The thing is, though, that, at the high school level, white is not a proxy for high performing. If you cross-reference this list with the highest performers on CAPE or USNWR, several schools with higher white populations were out-performed by schools with fewer white studetns.

Please do a review in statistics because a small sample size is not statistically significant.

I'm talking about regardless of race, several schools with a very small white population outperformed some with larger white populations. Or did you have something relevant to say?

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Anonymous wrote:Wow—won’t be long before BASIS DC, a 100% lottery school, ranks above Walls, which only takes straight A students.

That is totally misleading. Yes, basis accepts by lottery -- in 5th grade. It then forces out kids who aren't successful and refuses to accept any new students for 9th grade.

Oh stop. There's lots of schools in DC that have similar policies. BASIS is not unique.

Really? Name one.

Every bilingual school in the city?

What on earth are you talking about. That's definitely not true. Name even one school that does that, with cites. LAMB and YY stop accepting kids at a certain grade but they don't require anyone to repeat grades.

No one ever raised the issue of repeating grades, except for you.

You said "similar policies", and incentivizing kids to leave with developmentally inappropriate retention policies is key to how BASIS operates.

It seems very DC that people hate BASIS, one of the best schools in the city, but they have no problem with the dozens and dozens of steaming piles of shit that pass for public schools in this city.

The arrogance of BASIS posters to call all the other schools in the city "steaming piles of shit" is why people hate to see them coming. Maybe try appreciating what other schools add to the DC ecosystem. There are good and even excellent schools on both sides of the park. Basis is not the only or even, necessarily, the best middle school or high school. Finding the best fit for each kid is the goal. Why not acknowledge that BASIS is a good fit for some, and not for others. For this reason it's a GOOD thing that many different schools are available to educate our students.

Again, arrogant BASIS posters provoke a negative reaction from parents at other schools. This should not be a surprise to anyone.

THIS. So tiring all the Basis booster threads in the past few months. Just stop.

is the waitlist moving a lot and why the families need to do this?

No, it's because defensive BASIS boosters know their school is mid so they never miss an opportunity to push their talking points.

Don’t want to be mean but Latin is mid. Its biggest positive is that white kids go there.

So you're dumb...and racist?

Most DC high schools have a literal handful of white kids in each grade. There's nothing wrong with wanting there to be 15 white kids in a class of 200 kids. If black parents are allowed to want that for their kids, white parents are too.

It's striking how ignorant you are of DC schools. Do you live actually here?

Here are the numbers of white kids in each high school for 2023-2024. As of that year, most high schools did indeed have around five or fewer white students per grade. Would love to see updated numbers if anyone feels like updating.


Ballou 0
Bard High School Early College 1
Anacostia 1
Maya Angelou 1
Statesman College Preparatory Academy 1
Luke C Moore 1
Woodson 1
Paul High School 2
Phelps 3
Roosevelt STAY 4
EL Haynes 4
Perry Street Prep 4
Washington Leadership Academy 5
Dunbar 3
Coolidge 6
Cap City 7
Roosevelt High School 9
CHEC 13
Eastern 21
Sojourner truth 25
Mc Kinley Tech 24
Banneker 37
MacArthur 52
Duke Ellington 92
Basis 116
DCI 173
Washington Latin 143
School Without Walls 283
Jackson-Reed 722

Well, no surprises here. If white is proxy for higher performing it’s the 3 popular charters (DCI, Latin, Basis) and SWW and JR.

The thing is, though, that, at the high school level, white is not a proxy for high performing. If you cross-reference this list with the highest performers on CAPE or USNWR, several schools with higher white populations were out-performed by schools with fewer white studetns.

Please do a review in statistics because a small sample size is not statistically significant.

I'm talking about regardless of race, several schools with a very small white population outperformed some with larger white populations. Or did you have something relevant to say?

Again, review your statistics. You cannot compare absolute numbers but need to look at percentages due to variability in size.

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Updated for 2024-2025
Pulled from this source:
https://osse.dc.gov/page/2024-25-school-year-enrollment-audit-report-and-data

High School. Number White Students (Percentage of overall population)
Jackson Reed is the first school in the list where white students become a plurality of all students

Coolidge 7 (0.68%)
Roosevelt 8 (0.84%)
CHEC 14 (0.89%)
Perry Street Prep 4 (0.91%)
Richard Wright 3 (1%)
Cap City 6 (1.7%)
Eastern 26 (2.8%)
McKinley 34 (4.7%)
Banneker 65 (9.2%)
Sojourner Truth 37 (12.6%)
Duke Ellington 84 (14.2%)
MacArthur 68 (17.4%)
DCI (HS & MS together) 351 (21.2%)

Jackson Reed 674 (36.3%)
Latin HS 157 (44%)
BASIS (includes MS & HS) 340 692 0.4913294798 49
SWW 301 606 0.49669967 50

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Anonymous wrote:Wow—won’t be long before BASIS DC, a 100% lottery school, ranks above Walls, which only takes straight A students.

That is totally misleading. Yes, basis accepts by lottery -- in 5th grade. It then forces out kids who aren't successful and refuses to accept any new students for 9th grade.

Oh stop. There's lots of schools in DC that have similar policies. BASIS is not unique.

Really? Name one.

Every bilingual school in the city?

What on earth are you talking about. That's definitely not true. Name even one school that does that, with cites. LAMB and YY stop accepting kids at a certain grade but they don't require anyone to repeat grades.

No one ever raised the issue of repeating grades, except for you.

You said "similar policies", and incentivizing kids to leave with developmentally inappropriate retention policies is key to how BASIS operates.

It seems very DC that people hate BASIS, one of the best schools in the city, but they have no problem with the dozens and dozens of steaming piles of shit that pass for public schools in this city.

The arrogance of BASIS posters to call all the other schools in the city "steaming piles of shit" is why people hate to see them coming. Maybe try appreciating what other schools add to the DC ecosystem. There are good and even excellent schools on both sides of the park. Basis is not the only or even, necessarily, the best middle school or high school. Finding the best fit for each kid is the goal. Why not acknowledge that BASIS is a good fit for some, and not for others. For this reason it's a GOOD thing that many different schools are available to educate our students.

Again, arrogant BASIS posters provoke a negative reaction from parents at other schools. This should not be a surprise to anyone.

THIS. So tiring all the Basis booster threads in the past few months. Just stop.

is the waitlist moving a lot and why the families need to do this?

No, it's because defensive BASIS boosters know their school is mid so they never miss an opportunity to push their talking points.

Don’t want to be mean but Latin is mid. Its biggest positive is that white kids go there.

So you're dumb...and racist?

Most DC high schools have a literal handful of white kids in each grade. There's nothing wrong with wanting there to be 15 white kids in a class of 200 kids. If black parents are allowed to want that for their kids, white parents are too.

It's striking how ignorant you are of DC schools. Do you live actually here?

Here are the numbers of white kids in each high school for 2023-2024. As of that year, most high schools did indeed have around five or fewer white students per grade. Would love to see updated numbers if anyone feels like updating.


Ballou 0
Bard High School Early College 1
Anacostia 1
Maya Angelou 1
Statesman College Preparatory Academy 1
Luke C Moore 1
Woodson 1
Paul High School 2
Phelps 3
Roosevelt STAY 4
EL Haynes 4
Perry Street Prep 4
Washington Leadership Academy 5
Dunbar 3
Coolidge 6
Cap City 7
Roosevelt High School 9
CHEC 13
Eastern 21
Sojourner truth 25
Mc Kinley Tech 24
Banneker 37
MacArthur 52
Duke Ellington 92
Basis 116
DCI 173
Washington Latin 143
School Without Walls 283
Jackson-Reed 722

Well, no surprises here. If white is proxy for higher performing it’s the 3 popular charters (DCI, Latin, Basis) and SWW and JR.

The thing is, though, that, at the high school level, white is not a proxy for high performing. If you cross-reference this list with the highest performers on CAPE or USNWR, several schools with higher white populations were out-performed by schools with fewer white studetns.

Please do a review in statistics because a small sample size is not statistically significant.

I'm talking about regardless of race, several schools with a very small white population outperformed some with larger white populations. Or did you have something relevant to say?

Again, review your statistics. You cannot compare absolute numbers but need to look at percentages due to variability in size.

You're misunderstanding me. I'm saying that McKinley Tech and Banneker outperformed Jackson Reed and several charters with larger white populations.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow—won’t be long before BASIS DC, a 100% lottery school, ranks above Walls, which only takes straight A students.

That is totally misleading. Yes, basis accepts by lottery -- in 5th grade. It then forces out kids who aren't successful and refuses to accept any new students for 9th grade.

Oh stop. There's lots of schools in DC that have similar policies. BASIS is not unique.

Yes, in fact BASIS is unique in this way. Name any others that force out students who are not successful on the basis of comprehensive (or any) exams.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow—won’t be long before BASIS DC, a 100% lottery school, ranks above Walls, which only takes straight A students.

That is totally misleading. Yes, basis accepts by lottery -- in 5th grade. It then forces out kids who aren't successful and refuses to accept any new students for 9th grade.

Oh stop. There's lots of schools in DC that have similar policies. BASIS is not unique.

Really? Name one.

Every bilingual school in the city?

What on earth are you talking about. That's definitely not true. Name even one school that does that, with cites. LAMB and YY stop accepting kids at a certain grade but they don't require anyone to repeat grades.

No one ever raised the issue of repeating grades, except for you.

You said "similar policies", and incentivizing kids to leave with developmentally inappropriate retention policies is key to how BASIS operates.

It seems very DC that people hate BASIS, one of the best schools in the city, but they have no problem with the dozens and dozens of steaming piles of shit that pass for public schools in this city.

The arrogance of BASIS posters to call all the other schools in the city "steaming piles of shit" is why people hate to see them coming. Maybe try appreciating what other schools add to the DC ecosystem. There are good and even excellent schools on both sides of the park. Basis is not the only or even, necessarily, the best middle school or high school. Finding the best fit for each kid is the goal. Why not acknowledge that BASIS is a good fit for some, and not for others. For this reason it's a GOOD thing that many different schools are available to educate our students.

Again, arrogant BASIS posters provoke a negative reaction from parents at other schools. This should not be a surprise to anyone.

THIS. So tiring all the Basis booster threads in the past few months. Just stop.

is the waitlist moving a lot and why the families need to do this?

No, it's because defensive BASIS boosters know their school is mid so they never miss an opportunity to push their talking points.

Don’t want to be mean but Latin is mid. Its biggest positive is that white kids go there.

So you're dumb...and racist?

Most DC high schools have a literal handful of white kids in each grade. There's nothing wrong with wanting there to be 15 white kids in a class of 200 kids. If black parents are allowed to want that for their kids, white parents are too.

It's striking how ignorant you are of DC schools. Do you live actually here?

Here are the numbers of white kids in each high school for 2023-2024. As of that year, most high schools did indeed have around five or fewer white students per grade. Would love to see updated numbers if anyone feels like updating.


Ballou 0
Bard High School Early College 1
Anacostia 1
Maya Angelou 1
Statesman College Preparatory Academy 1
Luke C Moore 1
Woodson 1
Paul High School 2
Phelps 3
Roosevelt STAY 4
EL Haynes 4
Perry Street Prep 4
Washington Leadership Academy 5
Dunbar 3
Coolidge 6
Cap City 7
Roosevelt High School 9
CHEC 13
Eastern 21
Sojourner truth 25
Mc Kinley Tech 24
Banneker 37
MacArthur 52
Duke Ellington 92
Basis 116
DCI 173
Washington Latin 143
School Without Walls 283
Jackson-Reed 722

Well, no surprises here. If white is proxy for higher performing it’s the 3 popular charters (DCI, Latin, Basis) and SWW and JR.

The thing is, though, that, at the high school level, white is not a proxy for high performing. If you cross-reference this list with the highest performers on CAPE or USNWR, several schools with higher white populations were out-performed by schools with fewer white studetns.

Please do a review in statistics because a small sample size is not statistically significant.

I'm talking about regardless of race, several schools with a very small white population outperformed some with larger white populations. Or did you have something relevant to say?

Again, review your statistics. You cannot compare absolute numbers but need to look at percentages due to variability in size.

You're misunderstanding me. I'm saying that McKinley Tech and Banneker outperformed Jackson Reed and several charters with larger white populations.

And not the white populations, the WHOLE school population.

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I think there's lots of WOTP mommies on this thread who are unhappy to learn that the best high schools in the city are not...west of the park.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow—won’t be long before BASIS DC, a 100% lottery school, ranks above Walls, which only takes straight A students.

That is totally misleading. Yes, basis accepts by lottery -- in 5th grade. It then forces out kids who aren't successful and refuses to accept any new students for 9th grade.

Oh stop. There's lots of schools in DC that have similar policies. BASIS is not unique.

Really? Name one.

Every bilingual school in the city?

What on earth are you talking about. That's definitely not true. Name even one school that does that, with cites. LAMB and YY stop accepting kids at a certain grade but they don't require anyone to repeat grades.

No one ever raised the issue of repeating grades, except for you.

You said "similar policies", and incentivizing kids to leave with developmentally inappropriate retention policies is key to how BASIS operates.

It seems very DC that people hate BASIS, one of the best schools in the city, but they have no problem with the dozens and dozens of steaming piles of shit that pass for public schools in this city.

The arrogance of BASIS posters to call all the other schools in the city "steaming piles of shit" is why people hate to see them coming. Maybe try appreciating what other schools add to the DC ecosystem. There are good and even excellent schools on both sides of the park. Basis is not the only or even, necessarily, the best middle school or high school. Finding the best fit for each kid is the goal. Why not acknowledge that BASIS is a good fit for some, and not for others. For this reason it's a GOOD thing that many different schools are available to educate our students.

Again, arrogant BASIS posters provoke a negative reaction from parents at other schools. This should not be a surprise to anyone.

THIS. So tiring all the Basis booster threads in the past few months. Just stop.

is the waitlist moving a lot and why the families need to do this?

No, it's because defensive BASIS boosters know their school is mid so they never miss an opportunity to push their talking points.

Don’t want to be mean but Latin is mid. Its biggest positive is that white kids go there.

So you're dumb...and racist?

Most DC high schools have a literal handful of white kids in each grade. There's nothing wrong with wanting there to be 15 white kids in a class of 200 kids. If black parents are allowed to want that for their kids, white parents are too.

It's striking how ignorant you are of DC schools. Do you live actually here?

Yes, and I have a kid in high school. Do you?

Latin is 40 percent white.

And?

Just pointing out that your estimate of the number of white students at Latin is off by a factor of six. At least your estimate of the class size is only off by a factor of two.

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Yes, and I have a kid in high school. Do you?

Latin is 40 percent white.

And?

Just pointing out that your estimate of the number of white students at Latin is off by a factor of six. At least your estimate of the class size is only off by a factor of two.

I was just saying that most high schools in DC have a small number of white students. I wasn't referring to Latin by itself, but to DC schools overall.

Latin does indeed have 44% white students, third whitest after BASIS and SWW. Most DC high schools have either none, one or a handful of white students. My point still stands.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow—won’t be long before BASIS DC, a 100% lottery school, ranks above Walls, which only takes straight A students.

That is totally misleading. Yes, basis accepts by lottery -- in 5th grade. It then forces out kids who aren't successful and refuses to accept any new students for 9th grade.

Oh stop. There's lots of schools in DC that have similar policies. BASIS is not unique.

Really? Name one.

Every bilingual school in the city?

What on earth are you talking about. That's definitely not true. Name even one school that does that, with cites. LAMB and YY stop accepting kids at a certain grade but they don't require anyone to repeat grades.

No one ever raised the issue of repeating grades, except for you.

You said "similar policies", and incentivizing kids to leave with developmentally inappropriate retention policies is key to how BASIS operates.

It seems very DC that people hate BASIS, one of the best schools in the city, but they have no problem with the dozens and dozens of steaming piles of shit that pass for public schools in this city.

The arrogance of BASIS posters to call all the other schools in the city "steaming piles of shit" is why people hate to see them coming. Maybe try appreciating what other schools add to the DC ecosystem. There are good and even excellent schools on both sides of the park. Basis is not the only or even, necessarily, the best middle school or high school. Finding the best fit for each kid is the goal. Why not acknowledge that BASIS is a good fit for some, and not for others. For this reason it's a GOOD thing that many different schools are available to educate our students.

Again, arrogant BASIS posters provoke a negative reaction from parents at other schools. This should not be a surprise to anyone.

THIS. So tiring all the Basis booster threads in the past few months. Just stop.

is the waitlist moving a lot and why the families need to do this?

No, it's because defensive BASIS boosters know their school is mid so they never miss an opportunity to push their talking points.

Don’t want to be mean but Latin is mid. Its biggest positive is that white kids go there.

So you're dumb...and racist?

Most DC high schools have a literal handful of white kids in each grade. There's nothing wrong with wanting there to be 15 white kids in a class of 200 kids. If black parents are allowed to want that for their kids, white parents are too.

It's striking how ignorant you are of DC schools. Do you live actually here?

Yes, and I have a kid in high school. Do you?

Latin is 40 percent white.

And?

Just pointing out that your estimate of the number of white students at Latin is off by a factor of six. At least your estimate of the class size is only off by a factor of two.

I was just saying that most high schools in DC have a small number of white students. I wasn't referring to Latin by itself, but to DC schools overall.

Latin does indeed have 44% white students, third whitest after BASIS and SWW. MOST DC high schools have either none, one or a handful of white students. My point still stands.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow—won’t be long before BASIS DC, a 100% lottery school, ranks above Walls, which only takes straight A students.

That is totally misleading. Yes, basis accepts by lottery -- in 5th grade. It then forces out kids who aren't successful and refuses to accept any new students for 9th grade.

Oh stop. There's lots of schools in DC that have similar policies. BASIS is not unique.

Really? Name one.

Every bilingual school in the city?

What on earth are you talking about. That's definitely not true. Name even one school that does that, with cites. LAMB and YY stop accepting kids at a certain grade but they don't require anyone to repeat grades.

No one ever raised the issue of repeating grades, except for you.

You said "similar policies", and incentivizing kids to leave with developmentally inappropriate retention policies is key to how BASIS operates.

It seems very DC that people hate BASIS, one of the best schools in the city, but they have no problem with the dozens and dozens of steaming piles of shit that pass for public schools in this city.

The arrogance of BASIS posters to call all the other schools in the city "steaming piles of shit" is why people hate to see them coming. Maybe try appreciating what other schools add to the DC ecosystem. There are good and even excellent schools on both sides of the park. Basis is not the only or even, necessarily, the best middle school or high school. Finding the best fit for each kid is the goal. Why not acknowledge that BASIS is a good fit for some, and not for others. For this reason it's a GOOD thing that many different schools are available to educate our students.

Again, arrogant BASIS posters provoke a negative reaction from parents at other schools. This should not be a surprise to anyone.

THIS. So tiring all the Basis booster threads in the past few months. Just stop.

is the waitlist moving a lot and why the families need to do this?

No, it's because defensive BASIS boosters know their school is mid so they never miss an opportunity to push their talking points.

Don’t want to be mean but Latin is mid. Its biggest positive is that white kids go there.

So you're dumb...and racist?

Most DC high schools have a literal handful of white kids in each grade. There's nothing wrong with wanting there to be 15 white kids in a class of 200 kids. If black parents are allowed to want that for their kids, white parents are too.

It's striking how ignorant you are of DC schools. Do you live actually here?

Here are the numbers of white kids in each high school for 2023-2024. As of that year, most high schools did indeed have around five or fewer white students per grade. Would love to see updated numbers if anyone feels like updating.


Ballou 0
Bard High School Early College 1
Anacostia 1
Maya Angelou 1
Statesman College Preparatory Academy 1
Luke C Moore 1
Woodson 1
Paul High School 2
Phelps 3
Roosevelt STAY 4
EL Haynes 4
Perry Street Prep 4
Washington Leadership Academy 5
Dunbar 3
Coolidge 6
Cap City 7
Roosevelt High School 9
CHEC 13
Eastern 21
Sojourner truth 25
Mc Kinley Tech 24
Banneker 37
MacArthur 52
Duke Ellington 92
Basis 116
DCI 173
Washington Latin 143
School Without Walls 283
Jackson-Reed 722

Well, no surprises here. If white is proxy for higher performing it’s the 3 popular charters (DCI, Latin, Basis) and SWW and JR.

The thing is, though, that, at the high school level, white is not a proxy for high performing. If you cross-reference this list with the highest performers on CAPE or USNWR, several schools with higher white populations were out-performed by schools with fewer white studetns.

Please do a review in statistics because a small sample size is not statistically significant.

I'm talking about regardless of race, several schools with a very small white population outperformed some with larger white populations. Or did you have something relevant to say?

Again, review your statistics. You cannot compare absolute numbers but need to look at percentages due to variability in size.

You're misunderstanding me. I'm saying that McKinley Tech and Banneker outperformed Jackson Reed and several charters with larger white populations.

And not the white populations, the WHOLE school population.

It is not comparable because you are using selective schools. If you self selected out the lowest performing kids at the other charters, their numbers would even higher.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow—won’t be long before BASIS DC, a 100% lottery school, ranks above Walls, which only takes straight A students.

That is totally misleading. Yes, basis accepts by lottery -- in 5th grade. It then forces out kids who aren't successful and refuses to accept any new students for 9th grade.

Oh stop. There's lots of schools in DC that have similar policies. BASIS is not unique.

Really? Name one.

Every bilingual school in the city?

What on earth are you talking about. That's definitely not true. Name even one school that does that, with cites. LAMB and YY stop accepting kids at a certain grade but they don't require anyone to repeat grades.

No one ever raised the issue of repeating grades, except for you.

You said "similar policies", and incentivizing kids to leave with developmentally inappropriate retention policies is key to how BASIS operates.

It seems very DC that people hate BASIS, one of the best schools in the city, but they have no problem with the dozens and dozens of steaming piles of shit that pass for public schools in this city.

The arrogance of BASIS posters to call all the other schools in the city "steaming piles of shit" is why people hate to see them coming. Maybe try appreciating what other schools add to the DC ecosystem. There are good and even excellent schools on both sides of the park. Basis is not the only or even, necessarily, the best middle school or high school. Finding the best fit for each kid is the goal. Why not acknowledge that BASIS is a good fit for some, and not for others. For this reason it's a GOOD thing that many different schools are available to educate our students.

Again, arrogant BASIS posters provoke a negative reaction from parents at other schools. This should not be a surprise to anyone.

THIS. So tiring all the Basis booster threads in the past few months. Just stop.

is the waitlist moving a lot and why the families need to do this?

No, it's because defensive BASIS boosters know their school is mid so they never miss an opportunity to push their talking points.

Don’t want to be mean but Latin is mid. Its biggest positive is that white kids go there.

So you're dumb...and racist?

Most DC high schools have a literal handful of white kids in each grade. There's nothing wrong with wanting there to be 15 white kids in a class of 200 kids. If black parents are allowed to want that for their kids, white parents are too.

It's striking how ignorant you are of DC schools. Do you live actually here?

Here are the numbers of white kids in each high school for 2023-2024. As of that year, most high schools did indeed have around five or fewer white students per grade. Would love to see updated numbers if anyone feels like updating.


Ballou 0
Bard High School Early College 1
Anacostia 1
Maya Angelou 1
Statesman College Preparatory Academy 1
Luke C Moore 1
Woodson 1
Paul High School 2
Phelps 3
Roosevelt STAY 4
EL Haynes 4
Perry Street Prep 4
Washington Leadership Academy 5
Dunbar 3
Coolidge 6
Cap City 7
Roosevelt High School 9
CHEC 13
Eastern 21
Sojourner truth 25
Mc Kinley Tech 24
Banneker 37
MacArthur 52
Duke Ellington 92
Basis 116
DCI 173
Washington Latin 143
School Without Walls 283
Jackson-Reed 722

Well, no surprises here. If white is proxy for higher performing it’s the 3 popular charters (DCI, Latin, Basis) and SWW and JR.

The thing is, though, that, at the high school level, white is not a proxy for high performing. If you cross-reference this list with the highest performers on CAPE or USNWR, several schools with higher white populations were out-performed by schools with fewer white studetns.

Please do a review in statistics because a small sample size is not statistically significant.

I'm talking about regardless of race, several schools with a very small white population outperformed some with larger white populations. Or did you have something relevant to say?

Again, review your statistics. You cannot compare absolute numbers but need to look at percentages due to variability in size.

You're misunderstanding me. I'm saying that McKinley Tech and Banneker outperformed Jackson Reed and several charters with larger white populations.

And not the white populations, the WHOLE school population.

It is not comparable because you are using selective schools. If you self selected out the lowest performing kids at the other charters, their numbers would even higher.

We'll never know, will we?