USN&WR high school ranking are out!

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The tough part is getting three groups over 20%. That's when you're truly in competition for most diverse DC school.

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Anonymous wrote:Can we please stop discussing BASIS? absolutely everything that needs to be said about the school has been said.

There are so many more schools to discuss. What about McKinley Tech, which is now #5 and has seen a huge jump in test scores this year?

I'd probably put Latin ahead of Banneker.

Based on what? Certainly not testing. Banneker has far better test results than Latin.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow—won’t be long before BASIS DC, a 100% lottery school, ranks above Walls, which only takes straight A students.

That is totally misleading. Yes, basis accepts by lottery -- in 5th grade. It then forces out kids who aren't successful and refuses to accept any new students for 9th grade.

Oh stop. There's lots of schools in DC that have similar policies. BASIS is not unique.

Really? Name one.

Every bilingual school in the city?

What on earth are you talking about. That's definitely not true. Name even one school that does that, with cites. LAMB and YY stop accepting kids at a certain grade but they don't require anyone to repeat grades.

No one ever raised the issue of repeating grades, except for you.

You said "similar policies", and incentivizing kids to leave with developmentally inappropriate retention policies is key to how BASIS operates.

It seems very DC that people hate BASIS, one of the best schools in the city, but they have no problem with the dozens and dozens of steaming piles of shit that pass for public schools in this city.

The arrogance of BASIS posters to call all the other schools in the city "steaming piles of shit" is why people hate to see them coming. Maybe try appreciating what other schools add to the DC ecosystem. There are good and even excellent schools on both sides of the park. Basis is not the only or even, necessarily, the best middle school or high school. Finding the best fit for each kid is the goal. Why not acknowledge that BASIS is a good fit for some, and not for others. For this reason it's a GOOD thing that many different schools are available to educate our students.

Again, arrogant BASIS posters provoke a negative reaction from parents at other schools. This should not be a surprise to anyone.

THIS. So tiring all the Basis booster threads in the past few months. Just stop.

is the waitlist moving a lot and why the families need to do this?

No, it's because defensive BASIS boosters know their school is mid so they never miss an opportunity to push their talking points.

Don’t want to be mean but Latin is mid. Its biggest positive is that white kids go there.

Have you been to Latin? It's like someone said "what if there was a middle and high school in Washington DC that looked like a small private college in New England?" Yeah, real mid.

Why New England?

And why do only 25.7% of students at Latin Upper meet or exceed expectations in math?

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Anonymous wrote:Wow—won’t be long before BASIS DC, a 100% lottery school, ranks above Walls, which only takes straight A students.

That is totally misleading. Yes, basis accepts by lottery -- in 5th grade. It then forces out kids who aren't successful and refuses to accept any new students for 9th grade.

Oh stop. There's lots of schools in DC that have similar policies. BASIS is not unique.

Really? Name one.

Every bilingual school in the city?

What on earth are you talking about. That's definitely not true. Name even one school that does that, with cites. LAMB and YY stop accepting kids at a certain grade but they don't require anyone to repeat grades.

No one ever raised the issue of repeating grades, except for you.

You said "similar policies", and incentivizing kids to leave with developmentally inappropriate retention policies is key to how BASIS operates.

It seems very DC that people hate BASIS, one of the best schools in the city, but they have no problem with the dozens and dozens of steaming piles of shit that pass for public schools in this city.

The arrogance of BASIS posters to call all the other schools in the city "steaming piles of shit" is why people hate to see them coming. Maybe try appreciating what other schools add to the DC ecosystem. There are good and even excellent schools on both sides of the park. Basis is not the only or even, necessarily, the best middle school or high school. Finding the best fit for each kid is the goal. Why not acknowledge that BASIS is a good fit for some, and not for others. For this reason it's a GOOD thing that many different schools are available to educate our students.

Again, arrogant BASIS posters provoke a negative reaction from parents at other schools. This should not be a surprise to anyone.

THIS. So tiring all the Basis booster threads in the past few months. Just stop.

is the waitlist moving a lot and why the families need to do this?

No, it's because defensive BASIS boosters know their school is mid so they never miss an opportunity to push their talking points.

Don’t want to be mean but Latin is mid. Its biggest positive is that white kids go there.

Have you been to Latin? It's like someone said "what if there was a middle and high school in Washington DC that looked like a small private college in New England?" Yeah, real mid.

Why New England?

And why do only 25.7% of students at Latin Upper meet or exceed expectations in math?

The math CAPE at the high school level is demonstrably not a great test and different schools require that different students take it. Compare SATs or APs if you really want to figure out which high schools have the best students. CAPE is fine as the main rubric in MS and elementary because it's all we're given. That's not the case in high school, but especially with the high school math CAPE which only measures 9th and 10th.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow—won’t be long before BASIS DC, a 100% lottery school, ranks above Walls, which only takes straight A students.

That is totally misleading. Yes, basis accepts by lottery -- in 5th grade. It then forces out kids who aren't successful and refuses to accept any new students for 9th grade.

Oh stop. There's lots of schools in DC that have similar policies. BASIS is not unique.

Really? Name one.

Every bilingual school in the city?

What on earth are you talking about. That's definitely not true. Name even one school that does that, with cites. LAMB and YY stop accepting kids at a certain grade but they don't require anyone to repeat grades.

No one ever raised the issue of repeating grades, except for you.

You said "similar policies", and incentivizing kids to leave with developmentally inappropriate retention policies is key to how BASIS operates.

It seems very DC that people hate BASIS, one of the best schools in the city, but they have no problem with the dozens and dozens of steaming piles of shit that pass for public schools in this city.

The arrogance of BASIS posters to call all the other schools in the city "steaming piles of shit" is why people hate to see them coming. Maybe try appreciating what other schools add to the DC ecosystem. There are good and even excellent schools on both sides of the park. Basis is not the only or even, necessarily, the best middle school or high school. Finding the best fit for each kid is the goal. Why not acknowledge that BASIS is a good fit for some, and not for others. For this reason it's a GOOD thing that many different schools are available to educate our students.

Again, arrogant BASIS posters provoke a negative reaction from parents at other schools. This should not be a surprise to anyone.

THIS. So tiring all the Basis booster threads in the past few months. Just stop.

is the waitlist moving a lot and why the families need to do this?

No, it's because defensive BASIS boosters know their school is mid so they never miss an opportunity to push their talking points.

Don’t want to be mean but Latin is mid. Its biggest positive is that white kids go there.

Have you been to Latin? It's like someone said "what if there was a middle and high school in Washington DC that looked like a small private college in New England?" Yeah, real mid.

Why New England?

And why do only 25.7% of students at Latin Upper meet or exceed expectations in math?

Latin is mid.

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Anonymous wrote:The tough part is getting three groups over 20%. That's when you're truly in competition for most diverse DC school.

Not looking at data, if I had to guess:

For high schools it’s DCI and JR

For middle school it’s DCI

For elementary it’s many of the immersion charters

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Anonymous wrote:The tough part is getting three groups over 20%. That's when you're truly in competition for most diverse DC school.

Not looking at data, if I had to guess:

For high schools it’s DCI and JR

For middle school it’s DCI

For elementary it’s many of the immersion charters

You don't have to guess. You can look at the data.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow—won’t be long before BASIS DC, a 100% lottery school, ranks above Walls, which only takes straight A students.

That is totally misleading. Yes, basis accepts by lottery -- in 5th grade. It then forces out kids who aren't successful and refuses to accept any new students for 9th grade.

Oh stop. There's lots of schools in DC that have similar policies. BASIS is not unique.

Really? Name one.

Every bilingual school in the city?

What on earth are you talking about. That's definitely not true. Name even one school that does that, with cites. LAMB and YY stop accepting kids at a certain grade but they don't require anyone to repeat grades.

No one ever raised the issue of repeating grades, except for you.

You said "similar policies", and incentivizing kids to leave with developmentally inappropriate retention policies is key to how BASIS operates.

It seems very DC that people hate BASIS, one of the best schools in the city, but they have no problem with the dozens and dozens of steaming piles of shit that pass for public schools in this city.

The arrogance of BASIS posters to call all the other schools in the city "steaming piles of shit" is why people hate to see them coming. Maybe try appreciating what other schools add to the DC ecosystem. There are good and even excellent schools on both sides of the park. Basis is not the only or even, necessarily, the best middle school or high school. Finding the best fit for each kid is the goal. Why not acknowledge that BASIS is a good fit for some, and not for others. For this reason it's a GOOD thing that many different schools are available to educate our students.

Again, arrogant BASIS posters provoke a negative reaction from parents at other schools. This should not be a surprise to anyone.

THIS. So tiring all the Basis booster threads in the past few months. Just stop.

is the waitlist moving a lot and why the families need to do this?

No, it's because defensive BASIS boosters know their school is mid so they never miss an opportunity to push their talking points.

Don’t want to be mean but Latin is mid. Its biggest positive is that white kids go there.

Have you been to Latin? It's like someone said "what if there was a middle and high school in Washington DC that looked like a small private college in New England?" Yeah, real mid.

Why New England?

And why do only 25.7% of students at Latin Upper meet or exceed expectations in math?

The math CAPE at the high school level is demonstrably not a great test and different schools require that different students take it. Compare SATs or APs if you really want to figure out which high schools have the best students. CAPE is fine as the main rubric in MS and elementary because it's all we're given. That's not the case in high school, but especially with the high school math CAPE which only measures 9th and 10th.

Ok. So why did only 25.7% of the Latin 9th and 10th graders who took the CAPE meet or exceed expectations?

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Anonymous wrote:Wow—won’t be long before BASIS DC, a 100% lottery school, ranks above Walls, which only takes straight A students.

That is totally misleading. Yes, basis accepts by lottery -- in 5th grade. It then forces out kids who aren't successful and refuses to accept any new students for 9th grade.

Oh stop. There's lots of schools in DC that have similar policies. BASIS is not unique.

Really? Name one.

Every bilingual school in the city?

What on earth are you talking about. That's definitely not true. Name even one school that does that, with cites. LAMB and YY stop accepting kids at a certain grade but they don't require anyone to repeat grades.

No one ever raised the issue of repeating grades, except for you.

You said "similar policies", and incentivizing kids to leave with developmentally inappropriate retention policies is key to how BASIS operates.

It seems very DC that people hate BASIS, one of the best schools in the city, but they have no problem with the dozens and dozens of steaming piles of shit that pass for public schools in this city.

The arrogance of BASIS posters to call all the other schools in the city "steaming piles of shit" is why people hate to see them coming. Maybe try appreciating what other schools add to the DC ecosystem. There are good and even excellent schools on both sides of the park. Basis is not the only or even, necessarily, the best middle school or high school. Finding the best fit for each kid is the goal. Why not acknowledge that BASIS is a good fit for some, and not for others. For this reason it's a GOOD thing that many different schools are available to educate our students.

Again, arrogant BASIS posters provoke a negative reaction from parents at other schools. This should not be a surprise to anyone.

THIS. So tiring all the Basis booster threads in the past few months. Just stop.

is the waitlist moving a lot and why the families need to do this?

No, it's because defensive BASIS boosters know their school is mid so they never miss an opportunity to push their talking points.

Don’t want to be mean but Latin is mid. Its biggest positive is that white kids go there.

Have you been to Latin? It's like someone said "what if there was a middle and high school in Washington DC that looked like a small private college in New England?" Yeah, real mid.

Why New England?

And why do only 25.7% of students at Latin Upper meet or exceed expectations in math?

The math CAPE at the high school level is demonstrably not a great test and different schools require that different students take it. Compare SATs or APs if you really want to figure out which high schools have the best students. CAPE is fine as the main rubric in MS and elementary because it's all we're given. That's not the case in high school, but especially with the high school math CAPE which only measures 9th and 10th.

Ok. So why did only 25.7% of the Latin 9th and 10th graders who took the CAPE meet or exceed expectations?

Because those are the kids who are worst at math. The kids who are good at math took Algebra I and Geometry in middle school.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow—won’t be long before BASIS DC, a 100% lottery school, ranks above Walls, which only takes straight A students.

That is totally misleading. Yes, basis accepts by lottery -- in 5th grade. It then forces out kids who aren't successful and refuses to accept any new students for 9th grade.

Oh stop. There's lots of schools in DC that have similar policies. BASIS is not unique.

Really? Name one.

Every bilingual school in the city?

What on earth are you talking about. That's definitely not true. Name even one school that does that, with cites. LAMB and YY stop accepting kids at a certain grade but they don't require anyone to repeat grades.

No one ever raised the issue of repeating grades, except for you.

You said "similar policies", and incentivizing kids to leave with developmentally inappropriate retention policies is key to how BASIS operates.

It seems very DC that people hate BASIS, one of the best schools in the city, but they have no problem with the dozens and dozens of steaming piles of shit that pass for public schools in this city.

The arrogance of BASIS posters to call all the other schools in the city "steaming piles of shit" is why people hate to see them coming. Maybe try appreciating what other schools add to the DC ecosystem. There are good and even excellent schools on both sides of the park. Basis is not the only or even, necessarily, the best middle school or high school. Finding the best fit for each kid is the goal. Why not acknowledge that BASIS is a good fit for some, and not for others. For this reason it's a GOOD thing that many different schools are available to educate our students.

Again, arrogant BASIS posters provoke a negative reaction from parents at other schools. This should not be a surprise to anyone.

THIS. So tiring all the Basis booster threads in the past few months. Just stop.

is the waitlist moving a lot and why the families need to do this?

No, it's because defensive BASIS boosters know their school is mid so they never miss an opportunity to push their talking points.

Don’t want to be mean but Latin is mid. Its biggest positive is that white kids go there.

Have you been to Latin? It's like someone said "what if there was a middle and high school in Washington DC that looked like a small private college in New England?" Yeah, real mid.

Why New England?

And why do only 25.7% of students at Latin Upper meet or exceed expectations in math?

The math CAPE at the high school level is demonstrably not a great test and different schools require that different students take it. Compare SATs or APs if you really want to figure out which high schools have the best students. CAPE is fine as the main rubric in MS and elementary because it's all we're given. That's not the case in high school, but especially with the high school math CAPE which only measures 9th and 10th.

Ok. So why did only 25.7% of the Latin 9th and 10th graders who took the CAPE meet or exceed expectations?

Because those are the kids who are worst at math. The kids who are good at math took Algebra I and Geometry in middle school.

Ya, and also it's a school that's particularly focused on math. Im a parent in that ecosystem and the families with very STEMy kids tried for BASIS, and everyone else tried for Latin.

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*not particularly focused on math

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Anonymous wrote:The tough part is getting three groups over 20%. That's when you're truly in competition for most diverse DC school.

Not looking at data, if I had to guess:

For high schools it’s DCI and JR

For middle school it’s DCI

For elementary it’s many of the immersion charters

You don't have to guess. You can look at the data.

Someone can look at the data but it’s pretty obvious you need buy in of whites, blacks, and hispanics to make it work so above likely correct. It’s not going to be Asians.

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Anonymous wrote:The tough part is getting three groups over 20%. That's when you're truly in competition for most diverse DC school.

Not looking at data, if I had to guess:

For high schools it’s DCI and JR

For middle school it’s DCI

For elementary it’s many of the immersion charters

You don't have to guess. You can look at the data.

Someone can look at the data but it’s pretty obvious you need buy in of whites, blacks, and hispanics to make it work so above likely correct. It’s not going to be Asians.

To be fair, there are twice as many hispanic students as white students in public schools at the 9-12 level, so the white students are the more scarce demographic. But I suppose they cluster more than the hispanic students? Not sure.

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DC schools, charter and DCPS that is, of course:
https://edscape.dc.gov/page/pop-and-students-public-school-enrollment-by-race-and-ethnicity

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Anonymous wrote:Wow—won’t be long before BASIS DC, a 100% lottery school, ranks above Walls, which only takes straight A students.

That is totally misleading. Yes, basis accepts by lottery -- in 5th grade. It then forces out kids who aren't successful and refuses to accept any new students for 9th grade.

Oh stop. There's lots of schools in DC that have similar policies. BASIS is not unique.

Really? Name one.

Every bilingual school in the city?

What on earth are you talking about. That's definitely not true. Name even one school that does that, with cites. LAMB and YY stop accepting kids at a certain grade but they don't require anyone to repeat grades.

No one ever raised the issue of repeating grades, except for you.

You said "similar policies", and incentivizing kids to leave with developmentally inappropriate retention policies is key to how BASIS operates.

It seems very DC that people hate BASIS, one of the best schools in the city, but they have no problem with the dozens and dozens of steaming piles of shit that pass for public schools in this city.

The arrogance of BASIS posters to call all the other schools in the city "steaming piles of shit" is why people hate to see them coming. Maybe try appreciating what other schools add to the DC ecosystem. There are good and even excellent schools on both sides of the park. Basis is not the only or even, necessarily, the best middle school or high school. Finding the best fit for each kid is the goal. Why not acknowledge that BASIS is a good fit for some, and not for others. For this reason it's a GOOD thing that many different schools are available to educate our students.

Again, arrogant BASIS posters provoke a negative reaction from parents at other schools. This should not be a surprise to anyone.

THIS. So tiring all the Basis booster threads in the past few months. Just stop.

is the waitlist moving a lot and why the families need to do this?

No, it's because defensive BASIS boosters know their school is mid so they never miss an opportunity to push their talking points.

Don’t want to be mean but Latin is mid. Its biggest positive is that white kids go there.

Have you been to Latin? It's like someone said "what if there was a middle and high school in Washington DC that looked like a small private college in New England?" Yeah, real mid.

Why New England?

And why do only 25.7% of students at Latin Upper meet or exceed expectations in math?

The math CAPE at the high school level is demonstrably not a great test and different schools require that different students take it. Compare SATs or APs if you really want to figure out which high schools have the best students. CAPE is fine as the main rubric in MS and elementary because it's all we're given. That's not the case in high school, but especially with the high school math CAPE which only measures 9th and 10th.

Ok. So why did only 25.7% of the Latin 9th and 10th graders who took the CAPE meet or exceed expectations?

Because those are the kids who are worst at math. The kids who are good at math took Algebra I and Geometry in middle school.

Ya, and also it's a school that's particularly focused on math. Im a parent in that ecosystem and the families with very STEMy kids tried for BASIS, and everyone else tried for Latin.

Even so, the only middle schools in the city with higher math CAPE scores than Latin are BASIS and Deal.