How are conservatives in US (specifically in Middle America and Bible Belt) so supportive of Israel ye are anti-Semitic?

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Anonymous wrote:American jews are pure evil.

I am an American Jew.

Why am I evil?

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Anonymous wrote:Christians (including Catholics) do believe in the rapture—but it’s not a one-size-fits-all doctrine. It’s like belief in climate change: most believe it exists, but how they interpret it (literal, symbolic, urgent, future, current) varies depending on denomination, upbringing, and study. Some even deny it entirely.

In my experience growing up in both the DMV and Southern Baptist Bible Belt, churches rarely preach about the rapture or the Second Coming during Sunday worship services. Sundays are for fellowship, worship, encouragement, giving, and spiritual uplift for the week ahead.

The deeper theological discussions—about the Book of Revelation, end times, eschatology—typically happen in Bible Study, often on weekday evenings. And let’s be honest: attendance there is low. Sunday service may be packed, but Bible Study often draws maybe 20% of the congregation—50% if it’s a really engaged church.

There are entire subcultures within both Christianity and Judaism that hold differing views on belief, practice, ideology, and political alignment. I’ve even heard powerful testimonies from Jewish believers in Jesus—yes, they exist! One minister on TBN (?) shared how his understanding of the color blue (royalty, lapis, priesthood) helped him connect Old Testament symbolism with Jesus as Messiah. It was deeply moving.

That said, DCUM is probably not the place to expect a respectful or representative sampling of those nuances.

I’ll just say this: the vast majority of people on this planet believe in God. You may reject organized religion or differ in theology, but globally, that puts you in the minority. Across cultures, languages, and continents, billions of people center their lives around some understanding of a higher power. That’s a deeply human experience, not a fringe one. So before labeling entire faith communities as “crazy” or “sick,” it’s worth remembering that what you might find unfamiliar or irrational is, for most of the world, sacred and central to their identity.

+1 Thank you so much for this insightful and beautifully written post.

Not very insightful. Just a bunch of assumptions. Many here in DCUM land have grown up in small towns and have plenty of personal experience and family members that let us understand what is going on perfectly well. My own father for example told me that the covid vaccine was the mark of the beast and that communism and leftists were the antichrist.

BTW Jews for jesus is a christian group that tries to convert people to christianity. Using judaism as an opening to brainwash more people is not an honorable thing and deserves no respect.

Your example from your extreme background is not typical of Christians.

Then maybe the "typical" Christians needs to start speaking up and repudiating the fundamentalists before it is too late.

Maybe you need to listen to what's said with an unbiased ear.

Oh, it's "biased" to point out that JESUS HIMSELF commanded us to look after the sick, the poor, the homeless, the marginalized, to give shelter to refugees and so on? That the four core canon books of the New Testament Gospel attesting to the teachings of Christ as witnessed by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John ALL clearly demonstrate these to be his core teachings?

MAGA Christians reject these teachings in favor of greed, avarice and selfishness by supporting politicians and policies that do this. That's not "bias" - it's a statement of fact.

Few Americans give a dang about Jesus, Christians, Muslims, or Jews anymore. If you're obsessed with religious extremism, perhaps you need a one way ticket to the Middle East where you will fit in very well with the other nut jobs.

You would be wrong. Many Americans care about morality. That is not religious extremism. Not like the orange god you worship. You are the extremist.

Americans are compassionate and merciful.

We can afford to be. We are a great nation with many resources.

MAGA lies to you, so you don't feel bad when you get nothing.

DP
I don’t think you’re replying to a maga there. They sound more like a cynical atheist and that more than likely means they’re on our side. So please try not to be such a dick to them, ok?

Lol... I'm neither a MAGA idiot or an atheist. I'm a realist who acknowledges facts above my emotional ties to anything. The fact is, religion is becoming less and less a part of culture in America with each passing generation. The hard-core conservative religious folks have loud voices from the fringe but they are small minority that is becoming smaller with the passage of time. Ignore anyone ranting and raving about Jesus this and Jesus that because they speak for only a very small number of people. Love everyone regardless of their faith as long as they are good-hearted peaceful people.

Except they have co-opted our government now and are imposing their (im)moral values on to our domestic and foreign policy.

You're a deranged fool. The current mess in Federal Government has nothing to do with Christians, Muslims, or Jews. It has to do with people in high positions who shouldn't be in high positions.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course not all are anti-semitic but there's a good percentage who express those views who also view Israel as ``Holy Land''.

Also why do these people support dictator-like people (won't say names) but also project their great support for Israel and ignore the genocide and starving children in Palestine? Where are their Christian values and love?

Many RW, Bible thumping, evangelicals believe that Jews killed Jesus. I once pointed out that it was Pontius Pilate is the one who ordered the crucifixion of Christ and it did no good.

As for Evangelicals not hating Israel, they likely do not associate Jews with Israel. Geopolitics is not something with which they have familiarity.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course not all are anti-semitic but there's a good percentage who express those views who also view Israel as ``Holy Land''.

Also why do these people support dictator-like people (won't say names) but also project their great support for Israel and ignore the genocide and starving children in Palestine? Where are their Christian values and love?

Many RW, Bible thumping, evangelicals believe that Jews killed Jesus. I once pointed out that it was Pontius Pilate is the one who ordered the crucifixion of Christ and it did no good.

As for Evangelicals not hating Israel, they likely do not associate Jews with Israel. Geopolitics is not something with which they have familiarity.

Too bad religious extremism isn't dying out in the Middle East as quickly as it is dying out in most parts of the world. Respect for every human's right to their own faith is an important value but it sure does seem as though Christians, Muslims, and Jews do a lot more killing than loving their fellow human beings.

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Anonymous wrote:Christians (including Catholics) do believe in the rapture—but it’s not a one-size-fits-all doctrine. It’s like belief in climate change: most believe it exists, but how they interpret it (literal, symbolic, urgent, future, current) varies depending on denomination, upbringing, and study. Some even deny it entirely.

In my experience growing up in both the DMV and Southern Baptist Bible Belt, churches rarely preach about the rapture or the Second Coming during Sunday worship services. Sundays are for fellowship, worship, encouragement, giving, and spiritual uplift for the week ahead.

The deeper theological discussions—about the Book of Revelation, end times, eschatology—typically happen in Bible Study, often on weekday evenings. And let’s be honest: attendance there is low. Sunday service may be packed, but Bible Study often draws maybe 20% of the congregation—50% if it’s a really engaged church.

There are entire subcultures within both Christianity and Judaism that hold differing views on belief, practice, ideology, and political alignment. I’ve even heard powerful testimonies from Jewish believers in Jesus—yes, they exist! One minister on TBN (?) shared how his understanding of the color blue (royalty, lapis, priesthood) helped him connect Old Testament symbolism with Jesus as Messiah. It was deeply moving.

That said, DCUM is probably not the place to expect a respectful or representative sampling of those nuances.

I’ll just say this: the vast majority of people on this planet believe in God. You may reject organized religion or differ in theology, but globally, that puts you in the minority. Across cultures, languages, and continents, billions of people center their lives around some understanding of a higher power. That’s a deeply human experience, not a fringe one. So before labeling entire faith communities as “crazy” or “sick,” it’s worth remembering that what you might find unfamiliar or irrational is, for most of the world, sacred and central to their identity.

+1 Thank you so much for this insightful and beautifully written post.

Not very insightful. Just a bunch of assumptions. Many here in DCUM land have grown up in small towns and have plenty of personal experience and family members that let us understand what is going on perfectly well. My own father for example told me that the covid vaccine was the mark of the beast and that communism and leftists were the antichrist.

BTW Jews for jesus is a christian group that tries to convert people to christianity. Using judaism as an opening to brainwash more people is not an honorable thing and deserves no respect.

Your example from your extreme background is not typical of Christians.

Then maybe the "typical" Christians needs to start speaking up and repudiating the fundamentalists before it is too late.

Maybe you need to listen to what's said with an unbiased ear.

Oh, it's "biased" to point out that JESUS HIMSELF commanded us to look after the sick, the poor, the homeless, the marginalized, to give shelter to refugees and so on? That the four core canon books of the New Testament Gospel attesting to the teachings of Christ as witnessed by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John ALL clearly demonstrate these to be his core teachings?

MAGA Christians reject these teachings in favor of greed, avarice and selfishness by supporting politicians and policies that do this. That's not "bias" - it's a statement of fact.

Few Americans give a dang about Jesus, Christians, Muslims, or Jews anymore. If you're obsessed with religious extremism, perhaps you need a one way ticket to the Middle East where you will fit in very well with the other nut jobs.

You would be wrong. Many Americans care about morality. That is not religious extremism. Not like the orange god you worship. You are the extremist.

Americans are compassionate and merciful.

We can afford to be. We are a great nation with many resources.

MAGA lies to you, so you don't feel bad when you get nothing.

DP
I don’t think you’re replying to a maga there. They sound more like a cynical atheist and that more than likely means they’re on our side. So please try not to be such a dick to them, ok?

Lol... I'm neither a MAGA idiot or an atheist. I'm a realist who acknowledges facts above my emotional ties to anything. The fact is, religion is becoming less and less a part of culture in America with each passing generation. The hard-core conservative religious folks have loud voices from the fringe but they are small minority that is becoming smaller with the passage of time. Ignore anyone ranting and raving about Jesus this and Jesus that because they speak for only a very small number of people. Love everyone regardless of their faith as long as they are good-hearted peaceful people.

Ok, I was wrong. You’re just a gullible fool who fell for religion and is now trying to be a Pollyanna. A complete dumbass, in other words.

Hmmm....

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Anonymous wrote:Of course not all are anti-semitic but there's a good percentage who express those views who also view Israel as ``Holy Land''.

Also why do these people support dictator-like people (won't say names) but also project their great support for Israel and ignore the genocide and starving children in Palestine? Where are their Christian values and love?

Many RW, Bible thumping, evangelicals believe that Jews killed Jesus. I once pointed out that it was Pontius Pilate is the one who ordered the crucifixion of Christ and it did no good.

As for Evangelicals not hating Israel, they likely do not associate Jews with Israel. Geopolitics is not something with which they have familiarity.

Yes, but Pilate did not want to crucify Jesus. In fact, he tried talking them out of crucifying and offered up Barabbas, but the crowed led by the Pharisees, demanded Jesus's crucifixion and Barabbas freedom.

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Anonymous wrote:Rapture. Seriously.

+1 The Holy Land has to be in the hands of the Jews in order for the Rapture to occur.

This isn’t about religion and rapture. This support is by design.
evangelical support for the holy land being in Jewish hands happened in 1960s. Since at least the 1950s, there were ‘actors’ fomenting this support through propaganda, bribes, and infiltration of US government, to sway public opinion, $$$, and steal nuclear secrets and uranium.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rapture. Seriously.

+1 The Holy Land has to be in the hands of the Jews in order for the Rapture to occur.

This isn’t about religion and rapture. This support is by design.
evangelical support for the holy land being in Jewish hands happened in 1960s. Since at least the 1950s, there were ‘actors’ fomenting this support through propaganda, bribes, and infiltration of US government, to sway public opinion, $$$, and steal nuclear secrets and uranium.

Thank goodness we no longer live in the 1950s and now evangelicals have very little to no influence on national politics or public opinion.

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Anonymous wrote:Christians (including Catholics) do believe in the rapture—but it’s not a one-size-fits-all doctrine. It’s like belief in climate change: most believe it exists, but how they interpret it (literal, symbolic, urgent, future, current) varies depending on denomination, upbringing, and study. Some even deny it entirely.

In my experience growing up in both the DMV and Southern Baptist Bible Belt, churches rarely preach about the rapture or the Second Coming during Sunday worship services. Sundays are for fellowship, worship, encouragement, giving, and spiritual uplift for the week ahead.

The deeper theological discussions—about the Book of Revelation, end times, eschatology—typically happen in Bible Study, often on weekday evenings. And let’s be honest: attendance there is low. Sunday service may be packed, but Bible Study often draws maybe 20% of the congregation—50% if it’s a really engaged church.

There are entire subcultures within both Christianity and Judaism that hold differing views on belief, practice, ideology, and political alignment. I’ve even heard powerful testimonies from Jewish believers in Jesus—yes, they exist! One minister on TBN (?) shared how his understanding of the color blue (royalty, lapis, priesthood) helped him connect Old Testament symbolism with Jesus as Messiah. It was deeply moving.

That said, DCUM is probably not the place to expect a respectful or representative sampling of those nuances.

I’ll just say this: the vast majority of people on this planet believe in God. You may reject organized religion or differ in theology, but globally, that puts you in the minority. Across cultures, languages, and continents, billions of people center their lives around some understanding of a higher power. That’s a deeply human experience, not a fringe one. So before labeling entire faith communities as “crazy” or “sick,” it’s worth remembering that what you might find unfamiliar or irrational is, for most of the world, sacred and central to their identity.

+1 Thank you so much for this insightful and beautifully written post.

Not very insightful. Just a bunch of assumptions. Many here in DCUM land have grown up in small towns and have plenty of personal experience and family members that let us understand what is going on perfectly well. My own father for example told me that the covid vaccine was the mark of the beast and that communism and leftists were the antichrist.

BTW Jews for jesus is a christian group that tries to convert people to christianity. Using judaism as an opening to brainwash more people is not an honorable thing and deserves no respect.

Your example from your extreme background is not typical of Christians.

Then maybe the "typical" Christians needs to start speaking up and repudiating the fundamentalists before it is too late.

Maybe you need to listen to what's said with an unbiased ear.

Oh, it's "biased" to point out that JESUS HIMSELF commanded us to look after the sick, the poor, the homeless, the marginalized, to give shelter to refugees and so on? That the four core canon books of the New Testament Gospel attesting to the teachings of Christ as witnessed by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John ALL clearly demonstrate these to be his core teachings?

MAGA Christians reject these teachings in favor of greed, avarice and selfishness by supporting politicians and policies that do this. That's not "bias" - it's a statement of fact.

Few Americans give a dang about Jesus, Christians, Muslims, or Jews anymore. If you're obsessed with religious extremism, perhaps you need a one way ticket to the Middle East where you will fit in very well with the other nut jobs.

You would be wrong. Many Americans care about morality. That is not religious extremism. Not like the orange god you worship. You are the extremist.

Americans are compassionate and merciful.

We can afford to be. We are a great nation with many resources.

MAGA lies to you, so you don't feel bad when you get nothing.

DP
I don’t think you’re replying to a maga there. They sound more like a cynical atheist and that more than likely means they’re on our side. So please try not to be such a dick to them, ok?

Lol... I'm neither a MAGA idiot or an atheist. I'm a realist who acknowledges facts above my emotional ties to anything. The fact is, religion is becoming less and less a part of culture in America with each passing generation. The hard-core conservative religious folks have loud voices from the fringe but they are small minority that is becoming smaller with the passage of time. Ignore anyone ranting and raving about Jesus this and Jesus that because they speak for only a very small number of people. Love everyone regardless of their faith as long as they are good-hearted peaceful people.

Except they have co-opted our government now and are imposing their (im)moral values on to our domestic and foreign policy.

You're a deranged fool. The current mess in Federal Government has nothing to do with Christians, Muslims, or Jews. It has to do with people in high positions who shouldn't be in high positions.

Most of whom are like Speaker Johnson, and Evangelical freak, or the freaks who believe Trump is "touched by god" and bow down to him. Get real.

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Anonymous wrote:Rapture. Seriously.

+1 The Holy Land has to be in the hands of the Jews in order for the Rapture to occur.

This isn’t about religion and rapture. This support is by design.
evangelical support for the holy land being in Jewish hands happened in 1960s. Since at least the 1950s, there were ‘actors’ fomenting this support through propaganda, bribes, and infiltration of US government, to sway public opinion, $$$, and steal nuclear secrets and uranium.

Thank goodness we no longer live in the 1950s and now evangelicals have very little to no influence on national politics or public opinion.

Is this sarcasm?

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Anonymous wrote:Christians (including Catholics) do believe in the rapture—but it’s not a one-size-fits-all doctrine. It’s like belief in climate change: most believe it exists, but how they interpret it (literal, symbolic, urgent, future, current) varies depending on denomination, upbringing, and study. Some even deny it entirely.

In my experience growing up in both the DMV and Southern Baptist Bible Belt, churches rarely preach about the rapture or the Second Coming during Sunday worship services. Sundays are for fellowship, worship, encouragement, giving, and spiritual uplift for the week ahead.

The deeper theological discussions—about the Book of Revelation, end times, eschatology—typically happen in Bible Study, often on weekday evenings. And let’s be honest: attendance there is low. Sunday service may be packed, but Bible Study often draws maybe 20% of the congregation—50% if it’s a really engaged church.

There are entire subcultures within both Christianity and Judaism that hold differing views on belief, practice, ideology, and political alignment. I’ve even heard powerful testimonies from Jewish believers in Jesus—yes, they exist! One minister on TBN (?) shared how his understanding of the color blue (royalty, lapis, priesthood) helped him connect Old Testament symbolism with Jesus as Messiah. It was deeply moving.

That said, DCUM is probably not the place to expect a respectful or representative sampling of those nuances.

I’ll just say this: the vast majority of people on this planet believe in God. You may reject organized religion or differ in theology, but globally, that puts you in the minority. Across cultures, languages, and continents, billions of people center their lives around some understanding of a higher power. That’s a deeply human experience, not a fringe one. So before labeling entire faith communities as “crazy” or “sick,” it’s worth remembering that what you might find unfamiliar or irrational is, for most of the world, sacred and central to their identity.

+1 Thank you so much for this insightful and beautifully written post.

Not very insightful. Just a bunch of assumptions. Many here in DCUM land have grown up in small towns and have plenty of personal experience and family members that let us understand what is going on perfectly well. My own father for example told me that the covid vaccine was the mark of the beast and that communism and leftists were the antichrist.

BTW Jews for jesus is a christian group that tries to convert people to christianity. Using judaism as an opening to brainwash more people is not an honorable thing and deserves no respect.

Your example from your extreme background is not typical of Christians.

Then maybe the "typical" Christians needs to start speaking up and repudiating the fundamentalists before it is too late.

Maybe you need to listen to what's said with an unbiased ear.

Oh, it's "biased" to point out that JESUS HIMSELF commanded us to look after the sick, the poor, the homeless, the marginalized, to give shelter to refugees and so on? That the four core canon books of the New Testament Gospel attesting to the teachings of Christ as witnessed by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John ALL clearly demonstrate these to be his core teachings?

MAGA Christians reject these teachings in favor of greed, avarice and selfishness by supporting politicians and policies that do this. That's not "bias" - it's a statement of fact.

Few Americans give a dang about Jesus, Christians, Muslims, or Jews anymore. If you're obsessed with religious extremism, perhaps you need a one way ticket to the Middle East where you will fit in very well with the other nut jobs.

You would be wrong. Many Americans care about morality. That is not religious extremism. Not like the orange god you worship. You are the extremist.

Americans are compassionate and merciful.

We can afford to be. We are a great nation with many resources.

MAGA lies to you, so you don't feel bad when you get nothing.

DP
I don’t think you’re replying to a maga there. They sound more like a cynical atheist and that more than likely means they’re on our side. So please try not to be such a dick to them, ok?

Lol... I'm neither a MAGA idiot or an atheist. I'm a realist who acknowledges facts above my emotional ties to anything. The fact is, religion is becoming less and less a part of culture in America with each passing generation. The hard-core conservative religious folks have loud voices from the fringe but they are small minority that is becoming smaller with the passage of time. Ignore anyone ranting and raving about Jesus this and Jesus that because they speak for only a very small number of people. Love everyone regardless of their faith as long as they are good-hearted peaceful people.

Except they have co-opted our government now and are imposing their (im)moral values on to our domestic and foreign policy.

Yeah. Anyone who works in DC is familiar with the Alabama pipeline.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rapture. Seriously.

+1 The Holy Land has to be in the hands of the Jews in order for the Rapture to occur.

This isn’t about religion and rapture. This support is by design.
evangelical support for the holy land being in Jewish hands happened in 1960s. Since at least the 1950s, there were ‘actors’ fomenting this support through propaganda, bribes, and infiltration of US government, to sway public opinion, $$$, and steal nuclear secrets and uranium.

Thank goodness we no longer live in the 1950s and now evangelicals have very little to no influence on national politics or public opinion.

Is this sarcasm?

No, it most certainly isn't. I'm sorry to hurt your bible-thumping feelings but you and your pedo friends no longer have the influence on mainstream American you once did. The vast majority of Americans have learned to love all people regardless of their unique qualities for which you may think your precious God would shun. We ain't going where it's hot. You might.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rapture. Seriously.

+1 The Holy Land has to be in the hands of the Jews in order for the Rapture to occur.

This isn’t about religion and rapture. This support is by design.
evangelical support for the holy land being in Jewish hands happened in 1960s. Since at least the 1950s, there were ‘actors’ fomenting this support through propaganda, bribes, and infiltration of US government, to sway public opinion, $$$, and steal nuclear secrets and uranium.

Thank goodness we no longer live in the 1950s and now evangelicals have very little to no influence on national politics or public opinion.

Is this sarcasm?

No, it most certainly isn't. I'm sorry to hurt your bible-thumping feelings but you and your pedo friends no longer have the influence on mainstream American you once did. The vast majority of Americans have learned to love all people regardless of their unique qualities for which you may think your precious God would shun. We ain't going where it's hot. You might.

Bro look who's in the White House. The Evangelicals' own golden calf.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rapture. Seriously.

+1 The Holy Land has to be in the hands of the Jews in order for the Rapture to occur.

This isn’t about religion and rapture. This support is by design.
evangelical support for the holy land being in Jewish hands happened in 1960s. Since at least the 1950s, there were ‘actors’ fomenting this support through propaganda, bribes, and infiltration of US government, to sway public opinion, $$$, and steal nuclear secrets and uranium.

Thank goodness we no longer live in the 1950s and now evangelicals have very little to no influence on national politics or public opinion.

Is this sarcasm?

No, it most certainly isn't. I'm sorry to hurt your bible-thumping feelings but you and your pedo friends no longer have the influence on mainstream American you once did. The vast majority of Americans have learned to love all people regardless of their unique qualities for which you may think your precious God would shun. We ain't going where it's hot. You might.

Bro look who's in the White House. The Evangelicals' own golden calf.

Evangelicals make up a very small percentage of the idiots who elected Trump but this isn't something you would understand because you're no smarter than those idiots.