My sister wants a homebirth

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I’m physician and I am so sorry. People on this thread making these statements and citing all the stats are ignoring so many confounding variables. They’ve obviously never had to comfort women who lost their infants bc they waited too long to go to the hospital.

That being said, you don’t get to make this decision. The best thing you can do is be there for your niece or nephew and if things start going south encourage proper care.

Tragically, many more maternal and infant deaths occur before/during/after hospital births than home births.

Are you talking in absolute terms? Because i hope you understand that there are millions more births in hospitals than home births.

Obviously.

My point is that hospitals can be and often are unsafe places to give birth.

Do you have a low IQ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So idiotic. These women insisting on home births are always attention seeking narcissists.

seriously, should be grounds to have the kid taken away

Having an abortion should also be grounds for taking your kids away. If you killed the first one what’s keeping you from killing the rest of them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I’m physician and I am so sorry. People on this thread making these statements and citing all the stats are ignoring so many confounding variables. They’ve obviously never had to comfort women who lost their infants bc they waited too long to go to the hospital.

That being said, you don’t get to make this decision. The best thing you can do is be there for your niece or nephew and if things start going south encourage proper care.

Tragically, many more maternal and infant deaths occur before/during/after hospital births than home births.

Are you talking in absolute terms? Because i hope you understand that there are millions more births in hospitals than home births.

Obviously.

My point is that hospitals can be and often are unsafe places to give birth.

Do you have a low IQ?

Does insulting other people make you feel better about yourself?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So idiotic. These women insisting on home births are always attention seeking narcissists.

seriously, should be grounds to have the kid taken away

Having an abortion should also be grounds for taking your kids away. If you killed the first one what’s keeping you from killing the rest of them?

what does abortion have to do with anything?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I’m physician and I am so sorry. People on this thread making these statements and citing all the stats are ignoring so many confounding variables. They’ve obviously never had to comfort women who lost their infants bc they waited too long to go to the hospital.

That being said, you don’t get to make this decision. The best thing you can do is be there for your niece or nephew and if things start going south encourage proper care.

Tragically, many more maternal and infant deaths occur before/during/after hospital births than home births.

Are you talking in absolute terms? Because i hope you understand that there are millions more births in hospitals than home births.

Obviously.

My point is that hospitals can be and often are unsafe places to give birth.

Do you have a low IQ?

Does insulting other people make you feel better about yourself?

answer the question

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I’m physician and I am so sorry. People on this thread making these statements and citing all the stats are ignoring so many confounding variables. They’ve obviously never had to comfort women who lost their infants bc they waited too long to go to the hospital.

That being said, you don’t get to make this decision. The best thing you can do is be there for your niece or nephew and if things start going south encourage proper care.

Tragically, many more maternal and infant deaths occur before/during/after hospital births than home births.

Are you talking in absolute terms? Because i hope you understand that there are millions more births in hospitals than home births.

Obviously.

My point is that hospitals can be and often are unsafe places to give birth.

This is straight up propaganda.

Nope. Hospitals are increasingly understaffed. We have horrible maternal and infant mortality rates in the US and the vast majority of births are in hospitals.

I have nothing specifically against hospital births, I myself had my daughter in a hospital but I think it's completely insane to bash women who choose an alternative setting for their birth, given how appalling the hospital outcomes are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I’m physician and I am so sorry. People on this thread making these statements and citing all the stats are ignoring so many confounding variables. They’ve obviously never had to comfort women who lost their infants bc they waited too long to go to the hospital.

That being said, you don’t get to make this decision. The best thing you can do is be there for your niece or nephew and if things start going south encourage proper care.

Tragically, many more maternal and infant deaths occur before/during/after hospital births than home births.

Are you talking in absolute terms? Because i hope you understand that there are millions more births in hospitals than home births.

Obviously.

My point is that hospitals can be and often are unsafe places to give birth.

This is straight up propaganda.

Nope. Hospitals are increasingly understaffed. We have horrible maternal and infant mortality rates in the US and the vast majority of births are in hospitals.

I have nothing specifically against hospital births, I myself had my daughter in a hospital but I think it's completely insane to bash women who choose an alternative setting for their birth, given how appalling the hospital outcomes are.

the only place more understaffed than a hospital is your house. no doctors or nurses there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I’m physician and I am so sorry. People on this thread making these statements and citing all the stats are ignoring so many confounding variables. They’ve obviously never had to comfort women who lost their infants bc they waited too long to go to the hospital.

That being said, you don’t get to make this decision. The best thing you can do is be there for your niece or nephew and if things start going south encourage proper care.

Tragically, many more maternal and infant deaths occur before/during/after hospital births than home births.

Are you talking in absolute terms? Because i hope you understand that there are millions more births in hospitals than home births.

Obviously.

My point is that hospitals can be and often are unsafe places to give birth.

This is straight up propaganda.

Nope. Hospitals are increasingly understaffed. We have horrible maternal and infant mortality rates in the US and the vast majority of births are in hospitals.

I have nothing specifically against hospital births, I myself had my daughter in a hospital but I think it's completely insane to bash women who choose an alternative setting for their birth, given how appalling the hospital outcomes are.

the only place more understaffed than a hospital is your house. no doctors or nurses there.

Actually having a professional trained in facilitating childbirth who is with you continuously is more than most people get in the hospital. People have had babies the hospital without a single medical attendant in the room.

Yes, there are bad midwives and bad OBs out there. A good midwife knows when a transfer to the hospital is needed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I’m physician and I am so sorry. People on this thread making these statements and citing all the stats are ignoring so many confounding variables. They’ve obviously never had to comfort women who lost their infants bc they waited too long to go to the hospital.

That being said, you don’t get to make this decision. The best thing you can do is be there for your niece or nephew and if things start going south encourage proper care.

Tragically, many more maternal and infant deaths occur before/during/after hospital births than home births.

Are you talking in absolute terms? Because i hope you understand that there are millions more births in hospitals than home births.

Obviously.

My point is that hospitals can be and often are unsafe places to give birth.

This is straight up propaganda.

Nope. Hospitals are increasingly understaffed. We have horrible maternal and infant mortality rates in the US and the vast majority of births are in hospitals.

I have nothing specifically against hospital births, I myself had my daughter in a hospital but I think it's completely insane to bash women who choose an alternative setting for their birth, given how appalling the hospital outcomes are.

the only place more understaffed than a hospital is your house. no doctors or nurses there.

Actually having a professional trained in facilitating childbirth who is with you continuously is more than most people get in the hospital. People have had babies the hospital without a single medical attendant in the room.

Yes, there are bad midwives and bad OBs out there. A good midwife knows when a transfer to the hospital is needed.

Homebirth midwives are laughably untrained compared to OBs and even L&D nurses. You’re much better off with a doctor overseeing multiple laboring women at once than one crunchy “birth workers” with you all day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I’m physician and I am so sorry. People on this thread making these statements and citing all the stats are ignoring so many confounding variables. They’ve obviously never had to comfort women who lost their infants bc they waited too long to go to the hospital.

That being said, you don’t get to make this decision. The best thing you can do is be there for your niece or nephew and if things start going south encourage proper care.

Tragically, many more maternal and infant deaths occur before/during/after hospital births than home births.

Are you talking in absolute terms? Because i hope you understand that there are millions more births in hospitals than home births.

Obviously.

My point is that hospitals can be and often are unsafe places to give birth.

This is straight up propaganda.

Nope. Hospitals are increasingly understaffed. We have horrible maternal and infant mortality rates in the US and the vast majority of births are in hospitals.

I have nothing specifically against hospital births, I myself had my daughter in a hospital but I think it's completely insane to bash women who choose an alternative setting for their birth, given how appalling the hospital outcomes are.

the only place more understaffed than a hospital is your house. no doctors or nurses there.

Actually having a professional trained in facilitating childbirth who is with you continuously is more than most people get in the hospital. People have had babies the hospital without a single medical attendant in the room.

Yes, there are bad midwives and bad OBs out there. A good midwife knows when a transfer to the hospital is needed.

you're describing the least ideal hospital birth and the most ideal home birth.

if we could guarantee a highly-qualified midwife at every home birth I would feel better, but we can't... We do have a lot more ability to monitor the staff and ensure proper ones at a hospital. This is absurd to even discuss.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I’m physician and I am so sorry. People on this thread making these statements and citing all the stats are ignoring so many confounding variables. They’ve obviously never had to comfort women who lost their infants bc they waited too long to go to the hospital.

That being said, you don’t get to make this decision. The best thing you can do is be there for your niece or nephew and if things start going south encourage proper care.

Tragically, many more maternal and infant deaths occur before/during/after hospital births than home births.

Are you talking in absolute terms? Because i hope you understand that there are millions more births in hospitals than home births.

Obviously.

My point is that hospitals can be and often are unsafe places to give birth.

This is straight up propaganda.

Nope. Hospitals are increasingly understaffed. We have horrible maternal and infant mortality rates in the US and the vast majority of births are in hospitals.

I have nothing specifically against hospital births, I myself had my daughter in a hospital but I think it's completely insane to bash women who choose an alternative setting for their birth, given how appalling the hospital outcomes are.

the only place more understaffed than a hospital is your house. no doctors or nurses there.

Actually having a professional trained in facilitating childbirth who is with you continuously is more than most people get in the hospital. People have had babies the hospital without a single medical attendant in the room.

Yes, there are bad midwives and bad OBs out there. A good midwife knows when a transfer to the hospital is needed.

you're describing the least ideal hospital birth and the most ideal home birth.

if we could guarantee a highly-qualified midwife at every home birth I would feel better, but we can't... We do have a lot more ability to monitor the staff and ensure proper ones at a hospital. This is absurd to even discuss.

Given the number of mothers and babies that die after hospital births it is offensive to pretend we (who is we?) can "monitor the staff and ensure proper ones at a hospital".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I’m physician and I am so sorry. People on this thread making these statements and citing all the stats are ignoring so many confounding variables. They’ve obviously never had to comfort women who lost their infants bc they waited too long to go to the hospital.

That being said, you don’t get to make this decision. The best thing you can do is be there for your niece or nephew and if things start going south encourage proper care.

Tragically, many more maternal and infant deaths occur before/during/after hospital births than home births.

Are you talking in absolute terms? Because i hope you understand that there are millions more births in hospitals than home births.

Obviously.

My point is that hospitals can be and often are unsafe places to give birth.

This is straight up propaganda.

Nope. Hospitals are increasingly understaffed. We have horrible maternal and infant mortality rates in the US and the vast majority of births are in hospitals.

I have nothing specifically against hospital births, I myself had my daughter in a hospital but I think it's completely insane to bash women who choose an alternative setting for their birth, given how appalling the hospital outcomes are.

the only place more understaffed than a hospital is your house. no doctors or nurses there.

Actually having a professional trained in facilitating childbirth who is with you continuously is more than most people get in the hospital. People have had babies the hospital without a single medical attendant in the room.

Yes, there are bad midwives and bad OBs out there. A good midwife knows when a transfer to the hospital is needed.

Homebirth midwives are laughably untrained compared to OBs and even L&D nurses. You’re much better off with a doctor overseeing multiple laboring women at once than one crunchy “birth workers” with you all day.

In other developed countries midwives deliver most babies and they have much better birth outcomes in those countries.

[Anonymous]

I was born at home (not intentionally) ands starting as a teen the whole hospital birth experience felt invasive And wrong to me and I knew I never wanted that if I didn’t have to. More babies and women die or have complications from hospital births than home births attended by competent midwives.

If you’re having a problem with the labor, yes go to the hospital, that’s what they’re for. But if everything is normal, a home birth can be a wonderful peaceful experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was born at home (not intentionally) ands starting as a teen the whole hospital birth experience felt invasive And wrong to me and I knew I never wanted that if I didn’t have to. More babies and women die or have complications from hospital births than home births attended by competent midwives.

If you’re having a problem with the labor, yes go to the hospital, that’s what they’re for. But if everything is normal, a home birth can be a wonderful peaceful experience.

it doesn't really matter what "feels" right to you—there's actual science involved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Stop bringing your stupid trauma onto your sister. Who cares where she has her baby- it’s HER baby. Get over yourself!

Who wrote this? Are you in middle school?