Too Much by Lena Dunham on Netflix

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Anonymous wrote:This show feels so autobiographical even though it isn't billed as directly based on Lena Dunham's life. There's something about her writing that you just know she's working out her own issues. She plays the main character's sister but one of the supporting actresses from Hacks is the lead.

Sent me down a rabbit hole on Dunham's relationship with Jack Antonoff (now married to Andie MacDowell's daughter actress Margaret Qualley) and her current relationship with UK musician Luis Felber. Apparently, everything from the throwing out pillows to dog adoption and re-homing are all things from her life.


I just watched episode 5 last night. If this show is autobiographical, I have a huge disdain for Jack Antonoff (of course this is from Lena Dunham’s perspective, but we’ve all known self-centered guys like this).


Jack and Lena are both neurodiverse. Have you dated a neurodiverse person? Now imagine 2 in a relationship with large personalities yet very different personalities.

Additionally, Lena has said Zev is a mixture of several boyfriends.


Oh ffs with the “neurodiverse.” That means basically everyone in the arts I guess.


I thought it was pretty well known that Jack is on the spectrum.


The “spectrum” starts to fail to have any meaning at all when someone literally at the top of his profession married to an Oscar nominee claims to be “on the spectrum.”

Having quirks isn’t autism. being introverted isn’t autism. Having habits isn’t autism. Needing to take time alone isn’t autism.


You are incredibly offensive. To suggest that someone with autism isn’t capable of being as successful as Jack Antonoff is ableist and makes you sound uneducated.

As a parent of a teen with autism, it is also obvious you don’t have experience with actual high functioning autistics. No one knows if he is ASD or not - least of all you.
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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I can't stand her. She's always angry and thinks everyone has wronged or slighted her.


plus, she’s an incestuous child-molester.
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Anonymous wrote:This show feels so autobiographical even though it isn't billed as directly based on Lena Dunham's life. There's something about her writing that you just know she's working out her own issues. She plays the main character's sister but one of the supporting actresses from Hacks is the lead.

Sent me down a rabbit hole on Dunham's relationship with Jack Antonoff (now married to Andie MacDowell's daughter actress Margaret Qualley) and her current relationship with UK musician Luis Felber. Apparently, everything from the throwing out pillows to dog adoption and re-homing are all things from her life.


I just watched episode 5 last night. If this show is autobiographical, I have a huge disdain for Jack Antonoff (of course this is from Lena Dunham’s perspective, but we’ve all known self-centered guys like this).


Jack and Lena are both neurodiverse. Have you dated a neurodiverse person? Now imagine 2 in a relationship with large personalities yet very different personalities.

Additionally, Lena has said Zev is a mixture of several boyfriends.


Oh ffs with the “neurodiverse.” That means basically everyone in the arts I guess.


I thought it was pretty well known that Jack is on the spectrum.


The “spectrum” starts to fail to have any meaning at all when someone literally at the top of his profession married to an Oscar nominee claims to be “on the spectrum.”

Having quirks isn’t autism. being introverted isn’t autism. Having habits isn’t autism. Needing to take time alone isn’t autism.


You are incredibly offensive. To suggest that someone with autism isn’t capable of being as successful as Jack Antonoff is ableist and makes you sound uneducated.

As a parent of a teen with autism, it is also obvious you don’t have experience with actual high functioning autistics. No one knows if he is ASD or not - least of all you.


+1

But I have been around Jack, albeit briefly. He reminded me very much of my HFAUD teen.
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Anonymous wrote:This show feels so autobiographical even though it isn't billed as directly based on Lena Dunham's life. There's something about her writing that you just know she's working out her own issues. She plays the main character's sister but one of the supporting actresses from Hacks is the lead.

Sent me down a rabbit hole on Dunham's relationship with Jack Antonoff (now married to Andie MacDowell's daughter actress Margaret Qualley) and her current relationship with UK musician Luis Felber. Apparently, everything from the throwing out pillows to dog adoption and re-homing are all things from her life.


I just watched episode 5 last night. If this show is autobiographical, I have a huge disdain for Jack Antonoff (of course this is from Lena Dunham’s perspective, but we’ve all known self-centered guys like this).


Jack and Lena are both neurodiverse. Have you dated a neurodiverse person? Now imagine 2 in a relationship with large personalities yet very different personalities.

Additionally, Lena has said Zev is a mixture of several boyfriends.


Oh ffs with the “neurodiverse.” That means basically everyone in the arts I guess.


I thought it was pretty well known that Jack is on the spectrum.


The “spectrum” starts to fail to have any meaning at all when someone literally at the top of his profession married to an Oscar nominee claims to be “on the spectrum.”

Having quirks isn’t autism. being introverted isn’t autism. Having habits isn’t autism. Needing to take time alone isn’t autism.


+1.


Hollywood has turned itself into the “victimhood Olympics.”
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Anonymous wrote:This show feels so autobiographical even though it isn't billed as directly based on Lena Dunham's life. There's something about her writing that you just know she's working out her own issues. She plays the main character's sister but one of the supporting actresses from Hacks is the lead.

Sent me down a rabbit hole on Dunham's relationship with Jack Antonoff (now married to Andie MacDowell's daughter actress Margaret Qualley) and her current relationship with UK musician Luis Felber. Apparently, everything from the throwing out pillows to dog adoption and re-homing are all things from her life.


I just watched episode 5 last night. If this show is autobiographical, I have a huge disdain for Jack Antonoff (of course this is from Lena Dunham’s perspective, but we’ve all known self-centered guys like this).


Jack and Lena are both neurodiverse. Have you dated a neurodiverse person? Now imagine 2 in a relationship with large personalities yet very different personalities.

Additionally, Lena has said Zev is a mixture of several boyfriends.


Oh ffs with the “neurodiverse.” That means basically everyone in the arts I guess.


I thought it was pretty well known that Jack is on the spectrum.


The “spectrum” starts to fail to have any meaning at all when someone literally at the top of his profession married to an Oscar nominee claims to be “on the spectrum.”

Having quirks isn’t autism. being introverted isn’t autism. Having habits isn’t autism. Needing to take time alone isn’t autism.


+1.


Hollywood has turned itself into the “victimhood Olympics.”


Same uneducated, offensive poster? Or a new one? Autistics don’t consider themselves victims. I am amazed at the amount of bigots that post on here. Switch up race or gender for autism and everyone would be up in arms. But DCUM loves to traffic in misinformation and discriminate against autistics.
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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I can't stand her. She's always angry and thinks everyone has wronged or slighted her.


She definitely has a perspective. I feel like we need more not fewer strong eccentric women in Hollywood. So I'm okay with her whether or not I like every little thing she does.


I agree with this. I find her generally “a lot” but I respect her non conformity to weight and/or beauty standards, in Hollywood, and agree we need more diversity of thought and experience, not less


+1

The hate aimed at any woman who dares not to try to look like a housewife is depressing.


The hate directed towards LD isn’t because of her appearance.


Oh but it is. It is at least 90% because she doesn’t look Hollywood and doesn’t try to. That really triggers people (of both genders) that she doesn’t hide it.


I agree that's an issue for some people, but I think the unease with Lena Durham goes beyond that. I feel like all of her stuff I like about 50% and hate about 50%. What is dislike is that she seems like she normalizes female degredation, while proclaiming herself as a radical feminist. Her characters always let the boyfriends do stuff that is kind of awful to them and often degrading. (Like the spitting in the mouth thing from this series.) I understand the value of depicting young women with all their insecurities and flaws, but for me, her characters just often seem to be lacking fundamental self-respect and have a vein of self-hate, even as they proclaim that they are so independent-minded. On Girls, I really hated the relationship between her character and Adam Driver's -- it was so disturbing and I felt that a lot of young female viewers don't have the experience to recognize the level of disfunction in these relationships and to interrogate the superficial feminism that the characters are trumpeting.

I also have a vague dislike of the fact that, at least previously, I think she affirmatively wanted to piss people off. I get that's part of an artist's role, but you can't seek to piss people off and then get all offended when people dislike you. I guess it's consistent with my sense of her as someone that's deeply insecure, but doesn't want people to think she's insecure (so projects a "I don't care what people think about me" but then does deeply care when she is criticized).

She strikes me as someone who needs more therapy but is working out her issues on screen -- which I guess is also a time honored tradition for artists -- but I'm concerned about the way that's consumed by younger viewers, her target audience, who may just feel validated in their own disfunction without realizing that they should seek something better for themselves. Like I am concerned that if my own daugthers watched it, I would want to tell them -- this is not okay, and not in a "it's okay to not be okay" way, more in a "this is not okay and you should remove yourself from this type of situation" way.
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Anonymous wrote:This show feels so autobiographical even though it isn't billed as directly based on Lena Dunham's life. There's something about her writing that you just know she's working out her own issues. She plays the main character's sister but one of the supporting actresses from Hacks is the lead.

Sent me down a rabbit hole on Dunham's relationship with Jack Antonoff (now married to Andie MacDowell's daughter actress Margaret Qualley) and her current relationship with UK musician Luis Felber. Apparently, everything from the throwing out pillows to dog adoption and re-homing are all things from her life.


I just watched episode 5 last night. If this show is autobiographical, I have a huge disdain for Jack Antonoff (of course this is from Lena Dunham’s perspective, but we’ve all known self-centered guys like this).


Jack and Lena are both neurodiverse. Have you dated a neurodiverse person? Now imagine 2 in a relationship with large personalities yet very different personalities.

Additionally, Lena has said Zev is a mixture of several boyfriends.


Oh ffs with the “neurodiverse.” That means basically everyone in the arts I guess.


I thought it was pretty well known that Jack is on the spectrum.


The “spectrum” starts to fail to have any meaning at all when someone literally at the top of his profession married to an Oscar nominee claims to be “on the spectrum.”

Having quirks isn’t autism. being introverted isn’t autism. Having habits isn’t autism. Needing to take time alone isn’t autism.


You are incredibly offensive. To suggest that someone with autism isn’t capable of being as successful as Jack Antonoff is ableist and makes you sound uneducated.

As a parent of a teen with autism, it is also obvious you don’t have experience with actual high functioning autistics. No one knows if he is ASD or not - least of all you.


+1

But I have been around Jack, albeit briefly. He reminded me very much of my HFAUD teen.


So Taylor. She reminds me very much of my extroverted HFASD kid.
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Lena is absolutely a child molester. Those excusing it because she was young are disturbing. If your neighbor's child did any of this to your toddler/child, you'd be okay with it? You'd excuse it based on "oh, they're just kids!" ???

Dunham writes that “curiosity got the best” of her and she opened her sister’s vagina only to call for her mother when she found the toddler had “six or seven pebbles in there”. “My mother didn’t bother asking why I had opened Grace’s vagina,” Dunham wrote. “This was within the spectrum of things that I did.”

In another passage that has attracted critics she describes trying to persuade her sister to “kiss her on the lips for five seconds” by offering gifts of sweets or coins. “Basically, anything a sexual predator might do to woo a small suburban girl, I was trying,” wrote Dunham.

on Twitter she said: And by the way, if you were a little kid and never looked at another little kid’s vagina, well, congrats to you,” she wrote.
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Anonymous wrote:Lena is absolutely a child molester. Those excusing it because she was young are disturbing. If your neighbor's child did any of this to your toddler/child, you'd be okay with it? You'd excuse it based on "oh, they're just kids!" ???

Dunham writes that “curiosity got the best” of her and she opened her sister’s vagina only to call for her mother when she found the toddler had “six or seven pebbles in there”. “My mother didn’t bother asking why I had opened Grace’s vagina,” Dunham wrote. “This was within the spectrum of things that I did.”

In another passage that has attracted critics she describes trying to persuade her sister to “kiss her on the lips for five seconds” by offering gifts of sweets or coins. “Basically, anything a sexual predator might do to woo a small suburban girl, I was trying,” wrote Dunham.

on Twitter she said: And by the way, if you were a little kid and never looked at another little kid’s vagina, well, congrats to you,” she wrote.


A child cannot be a child molester. That said she was abusive to her sister and needed more supervision from her parents.
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Anonymous wrote:Lena is absolutely a child molester. Those excusing it because she was young are disturbing. If your neighbor's child did any of this to your toddler/child, you'd be okay with it? You'd excuse it based on "oh, they're just kids!" ???

Dunham writes that “curiosity got the best” of her and she opened her sister’s vagina only to call for her mother when she found the toddler had “six or seven pebbles in there”. “My mother didn’t bother asking why I had opened Grace’s vagina,” Dunham wrote. “This was within the spectrum of things that I did.”

In another passage that has attracted critics she describes trying to persuade her sister to “kiss her on the lips for five seconds” by offering gifts of sweets or coins. “Basically, anything a sexual predator might do to woo a small suburban girl, I was trying,” wrote Dunham.

on Twitter she said: And by the way, if you were a little kid and never looked at another little kid’s vagina, well, congrats to you,” she wrote.


A child cannot be a child molester. That said she was abusive to her sister and needed more supervision from her parents.



She is a thoroughly disgusting and hate-filled individual.
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Anonymous wrote:Oh my gosh. This show sucks.


I liked the lead actress when she was in Hacks, and I love a good American in London story. I hung in for 1.5 episodes but it was just unwatchable. Whiny, tedious. I was once a chubby single woman in my late 20s working in the UK and even I found it impossible to relate to.
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Anonymous wrote:Lena is absolutely a child molester. Those excusing it because she was young are disturbing. If your neighbor's child did any of this to your toddler/child, you'd be okay with it? You'd excuse it based on "oh, they're just kids!" ???

Dunham writes that “curiosity got the best” of her and she opened her sister’s vagina only to call for her mother when she found the toddler had “six or seven pebbles in there”. “My mother didn’t bother asking why I had opened Grace’s vagina,” Dunham wrote. “This was within the spectrum of things that I did.”

In another passage that has attracted critics she describes trying to persuade her sister to “kiss her on the lips for five seconds” by offering gifts of sweets or coins. “Basically, anything a sexual predator might do to woo a small suburban girl, I was trying,” wrote Dunham.

on Twitter she said: And by the way, if you were a little kid and never looked at another little kid’s vagina, well, congrats to you,” she wrote.


A child cannot be a child molester. That said she was abusive to her sister and needed more supervision from her parents.



She is a thoroughly disgusting and hate-filled individual.


I met lots of girls like her in college. Sure that anyone who had any self-control and respect for boundaries is the weird, prudish one.
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Anonymous wrote:Lena is absolutely a child molester. Those excusing it because she was young are disturbing. If your neighbor's child did any of this to your toddler/child, you'd be okay with it? You'd excuse it based on "oh, they're just kids!" ???

Dunham writes that “curiosity got the best” of her and she opened her sister’s vagina only to call for her mother when she found the toddler had “six or seven pebbles in there”. “My mother didn’t bother asking why I had opened Grace’s vagina,” Dunham wrote. “This was within the spectrum of things that I did.”

In another passage that has attracted critics she describes trying to persuade her sister to “kiss her on the lips for five seconds” by offering gifts of sweets or coins. “Basically, anything a sexual predator might do to woo a small suburban girl, I was trying,” wrote Dunham.

on Twitter she said: And by the way, if you were a little kid and never looked at another little kid’s vagina, well, congrats to you,” she wrote.


A child cannot be a child molester. That said she was abusive to her sister and needed more supervision from her parents.

You’re wrong. I have a friend who was willfully molested by another child, as a child. What would you call this child if not a molester?
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Anonymous wrote:This show feels so autobiographical even though it isn't billed as directly based on Lena Dunham's life. There's something about her writing that you just know she's working out her own issues. She plays the main character's sister but one of the supporting actresses from Hacks is the lead.

Sent me down a rabbit hole on Dunham's relationship with Jack Antonoff (now married to Andie MacDowell's daughter actress Margaret Qualley) and her current relationship with UK musician Luis Felber. Apparently, everything from the throwing out pillows to dog adoption and re-homing are all things from her life.


I just watched episode 5 last night. If this show is autobiographical, I have a huge disdain for Jack Antonoff (of course this is from Lena Dunham’s perspective, but we’ve all known self-centered guys like this).


Jack and Lena are both neurodiverse. Have you dated a neurodiverse person? Now imagine 2 in a relationship with large personalities yet very different personalities.

Additionally, Lena has said Zev is a mixture of several boyfriends.


Oh ffs with the “neurodiverse.” That means basically everyone in the arts I guess.


I thought it was pretty well known that Jack is on the spectrum.


The “spectrum” starts to fail to have any meaning at all when someone literally at the top of his profession married to an Oscar nominee claims to be “on the spectrum.”

Having quirks isn’t autism. being introverted isn’t autism. Having habits isn’t autism. Needing to take time alone isn’t autism.


+1.


Hollywood has turned itself into the “victimhood Olympics.”


Same uneducated, offensive poster? Or a new one? Autistics don’t consider themselves victims. I am amazed at the amount of bigots that post on here. Switch up race or gender for autism and everyone would be up in arms. But DCUM loves to traffic in misinformation and discriminate against autistics.


Autism actually has to have clinically significant impairments. No you cannot be totally successful in a field that requires a high amount of social skill and claim to be autistic. It’s insulting to people who actually have autism to fake it.
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Anonymous wrote:This show feels so autobiographical even though it isn't billed as directly based on Lena Dunham's life. There's something about her writing that you just know she's working out her own issues. She plays the main character's sister but one of the supporting actresses from Hacks is the lead.

Sent me down a rabbit hole on Dunham's relationship with Jack Antonoff (now married to Andie MacDowell's daughter actress Margaret Qualley) and her current relationship with UK musician Luis Felber. Apparently, everything from the throwing out pillows to dog adoption and re-homing are all things from her life.


I just watched episode 5 last night. If this show is autobiographical, I have a huge disdain for Jack Antonoff (of course this is from Lena Dunham’s perspective, but we’ve all known self-centered guys like this).


Jack and Lena are both neurodiverse. Have you dated a neurodiverse person? Now imagine 2 in a relationship with large personalities yet very different personalities.

Additionally, Lena has said Zev is a mixture of several boyfriends.


Oh ffs with the “neurodiverse.” That means basically everyone in the arts I guess.


I thought it was pretty well known that Jack is on the spectrum.


The “spectrum” starts to fail to have any meaning at all when someone literally at the top of his profession married to an Oscar nominee claims to be “on the spectrum.”

Having quirks isn’t autism. being introverted isn’t autism. Having habits isn’t autism. Needing to take time alone isn’t autism.


You are incredibly offensive. To suggest that someone with autism isn’t capable of being as successful as Jack Antonoff is ableist and makes you sound uneducated.

As a parent of a teen with autism, it is also obvious you don’t have experience with actual high functioning autistics. No one knows if he is ASD or not - least of all you.


+1

But I have been around Jack, albeit briefly. He reminded me very much of my HFAUD teen.


So Taylor. She reminds me very much of my extroverted HFASD kid.


I.give.up
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