Too Much by Lena Dunham on Netflix

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lena Dunham is a deeply disturbed person. Whoever gave her the green light for another show should be penalized for allowing the disturbed garbage she creates into the world.

Ugly too, which is the real crime. Ain't nobody got time for that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m hate watching it because I just cannot stand her and her writing, but yes it’s plainly obvious this is biographical. The lead is very good and the episodes are intriguing and that’s about it. And she looks awful these days. I know she has health issues but come on. She’s let herself go.

I don't know if she "let herself go" physically or if she is ill or both. What I do know is that she has obviously been writing, working and produced a tv show, so she has not actually "let herself go" in a way that matters. I don't think it would be better if she was skinny or fit but not producing her art. I do not have dog in the fight for this writer, but I do have a dog in a fight for women who are creating art but are dismissed to their appearance. We have to have a more expansive view of what it means to "let yourself go" than your appearance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OMG the episode with just the protaganist and the boyfriend forever in the apartment. I could not get through it. I confess that i FF the whole thing. a) it was boring band b) I was stressed about her getting up for work the next day. Is there any point to continuing?

How can you give an honest review of the episode if you didn’t actually watch? It’s supposed to make you feel uncomfortable and anxious. That’s the good writing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I struggled to get through the first episode.

My question: why did they make the main character so unlikeable? So immature. So obsessed with her ex. So bizarre. A weirdo-loser who comes off as a jerk.

There’s a way to have a character be witty and fun, but it’s like they opted to go another route.

This isn’t another Emily in Paris. This is Lena’s style. You can’t stand the characters, but you can’t stop watching. It’s so much easier to make a bubbly Emily in Paris.

[Anonymous]

Is the main character supposed to be on the spectrum? Her social skills are extremely lacking. She says things bluntly, and without thinking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OMG the episode with just the protaganist and the boyfriend forever in the apartment. I could not get through it. I confess that i FF the whole thing. a) it was boring band b) I was stressed about her getting up for work the next day. Is there any point to continuing?

How can you give an honest review of the episode if you didn’t actually watch? It’s supposed to make you feel uncomfortable and anxious. That’s the good writing.

No - not good writing since it wasn't engaging enough to capture attention. Newsflash: if you don't want to see what happens next, that's terrible writing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is the main character supposed to be on the spectrum? Her social skills are extremely lacking. She says things bluntly, and without thinking.

This.

If she’s on the spectrum, then let us know so we can be forgiving and sympathetic.

But right now she just seems like a clueless jerk. She’s unlikeable. Uninteresting. Where are here endearing qualities?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m hate watching it because I just cannot stand her and her writing, but yes it’s plainly obvious this is biographical. The lead is very good and the episodes are intriguing and that’s about it. And she looks awful these days. I know she has health issues but come on. She’s let herself go.

I don't know if she "let herself go" physically or if she is ill or both. What I do know is that she has obviously been writing, working and produced a tv show, so she has not actually "let herself go" in a way that matters. I don't think it would be better if she was skinny or fit but not producing her art. I do not have dog in the fight for this writer, but I do have a dog in a fight for women who are creating art but are dismissed to their appearance. We have to have a more expansive view of what it means to "let yourself go" than your appearance.

She is ill. She has Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m hate watching it because I just cannot stand her and her writing, but yes it’s plainly obvious this is biographical. The lead is very good and the episodes are intriguing and that’s about it. And she looks awful these days. I know she has health issues but come on. She’s let herself go.

I don't know if she "let herself go" physically or if she is ill or both. What I do know is that she has obviously been writing, working and produced a tv show, so she has not actually "let herself go" in a way that matters. I don't think it would be better if she was skinny or fit but not producing her art. I do not have dog in the fight for this writer, but I do have a dog in a fight for women who are creating art but are dismissed to their appearance. We have to have a more expansive view of what it means to "let yourself go" than your appearance.

She is ill. She has Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome.

EDS itself does not make one gain that much weight. Actually, the majority of people that I know with EDS are very skinny. That being said symptoms of EDS are chronic pain, fatigue, and joint instability, which can reduce ones physical activity, but it’s not like other conditions where you’re taking immune suppressing medications that make you gain weight.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OMG the episode with just the protaganist and the boyfriend forever in the apartment. I could not get through it. I confess that i FF the whole thing. a) it was boring band b) I was stressed about her getting up for work the next day. Is there any point to continuing?

I just finished this episode and didn't mind it. I thought it was sweet and indicative of new love. It WAS stressful about work, but I do remember being in a new relationship and putting off school and work to focus on it.

Overall, i do like a show focused on an overweight heroine finding love. Like Bridget Jones but fat not mildly chubby. I am a little "eh" about the public humiliation scenes (also a hallmark of Bridget Jones, but I'm kinda over it by now). I liked the main character especially as the series goes on and the actress settles into the role. The character is insecure but also confident, which is hard to pull off but rings true to a lot of women's experiences.

Have you seen Survival of the Thickest? Very funny and sweet, the main character is very likeable as are many of the supporting characters.

I don't know that show, but it sounds like it is about weight at least as a subplot? Her weight is never mentioned. Just completely normalized. I love that. Wish there was less sex/sex talk so I could watch it with my daughter. Despite having several similarly overweight women in my family who are happily married, I STILL find it jarring to see these sex scenes on screen. I very much hope my daughter won't.

I don't find her unlikeable. She is accepting of others' foibles though she sees them. She has a subtle humor to her. Her last boyfriend was too cartoonishly awful at the end - they should have written in some regret to make it more believable. Likewise make her current BF more complex. He was at first and then became some ideal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OMG the episode with just the protaganist and the boyfriend forever in the apartment. I could not get through it. I confess that i FF the whole thing. a) it was boring band b) I was stressed about her getting up for work the next day. Is there any point to continuing?

I just finished this episode and didn't mind it. I thought it was sweet and indicative of new love. It WAS stressful about work, but I do remember being in a new relationship and putting off school and work to focus on it.

Overall, i do like a show focused on an overweight heroine finding love. Like Bridget Jones but fat not mildly chubby. I am a little "eh" about the public humiliation scenes (also a hallmark of Bridget Jones, but I'm kinda over it by now). I liked the main character especially as the series goes on and the actress settles into the role. The character is insecure but also confident, which is hard to pull off but rings true to a lot of women's experiences.

Have you seen Survival of the Thickest? Very funny and sweet, the main character is very likeable as are many of the supporting characters.

I don't know that show, but it sounds like it is about weight at least as a subplot? Her weight is never mentioned. Just completely normalized. I love that. Wish there was less sex/sex talk so I could watch it with my daughter. Despite having several similarly overweight women in my family who are happily married, I STILL find it jarring to see these sex scenes on screen. I very much hope my daughter won't.

I don't find her unlikeable. She is accepting of others' foibles though she sees them. She has a subtle humor to her. Her last boyfriend was too cartoonishly awful at the end - they should have written in some regret to make it more believable. Likewise make her current BF more complex. He was at first and then became some ideal.

No, weight isn’t mentioned in Survival of the Thickest. It celebrates many different varieties of beauty in the characters. There is definitely sex and sex talk, though!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is the main character supposed to be on the spectrum? Her social skills are extremely lacking. She says things bluntly, and without thinking.

This.

If she’s on the spectrum, then let us know so we can be forgiving and sympathetic.

But right now she just seems like a clueless jerk. She’s unlikeable. Uninteresting. Where are here endearing qualities?

What I appreciate about Lena dunhams shows is how unfiltered they are. I’m not there to see endearing, unrealistic characters. This is Lena’s world through her own eyes - someone who is simultaneously fascinated by herself and self loathing, and the witty, cynical, self centered way she sees the world around her.

Don’t get me wrong, I love a trite show like Emily in Paris, but I also appreciate a show where the characters are more multi dimensional and flawed.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I can't stand her. She's always angry and thinks everyone has wronged or slighted her.

She definitely has a perspective. I feel like we need more not fewer strong eccentric women in Hollywood. So I'm okay with her whether or not I like every little thing she does.

I agree with this. I find her generally “a lot” but I respect her non conformity to weight and/or beauty standards, in Hollywood, and agree we need more diversity of thought and experience, not less

+1

[Anonymous]

I actually like Lena Dunham in general and was pleased to see Rhea Perlman in the first episode (boo to Rita Wilson, she’s grating and not a good actor) but I barely finished that one episode. It’s not good quality writing nor insightful nor ‘so awkward lets see what happens.’ There is nothing compelling here and the promise of Andrew Scott ain’t enough for me.

[Anonymous]

This shown got better after the first episode. I didn’t always buy the reaction of other characters that the main actress was so fabulously interesting but overall it was nice to see something different about relationships being shown.