What happened to Moderate Dems VA/MD?

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I would call Moco pretty moderate. Just look at this book banning lawsuit. That doesn’t get raised in a far left haven.

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Anonymous wrote:Moderates can’t survive primaries. As a moderate dem every time I open my mouth about a modern or social issue I get judged harshly by more extreme dems.

This is my experience, too. And the few times I’ve tried to speak more moderately (not MAGA), I’ve been called names and told I’m ignorant. And when I’ve calmly explained I voted for Harris but have concerns, I’ve been told I am lying and I must be a Trumper.

I find some of my progressive friends openly hostile. I can’t have reasoned conversations with them.

Oh no. Poor bigots don’t like to be called out for their bigotry.

Perfect example here. What did I say that was bigoted?

But you did illustrate my point. It’s difficult to have a conversation if you’re immediately met with assumptions and unearned insults. And this, unfortunately, seems to happen almost every time I talk to a progressive coworker or friend.

What names were you called when you shared your views?

It always starts with MAGA, which I’ve learned means “any view I don’t agree with.” Or I’m called ignorant or stupid.

I haven’t gotten racist or bigot. Well, until now. I was just informed I’m a bigot now.

Because if you agree with any Trump policies you clearly are even if you're hiding behind "economic concerns" which of course he's also horrible at. I honestly can't believe any truly educated person believing a single word out of his mouth.

And here’s another one. I’ve said nothing about my beliefs and I haven’t said ANYTHING about agreeing with Trump’s policies, yet posters are questioning my intelligence. All I’ve done is identify myself as a moderate who wants a reasoned conversation.

Multiple posters have now illustrated why it can’t happen.

Because we’ve had countless threads like this. And, without fail, the OP is either a lying sack of sht troll and/or when you drill down on issues is actually MAGA.

Dp. Again, all you’re doing is driving people away. I voted D for decades. My parents were immigrants who didn’t go to high school. Dad had a blue collar job and thanks to the union we had healthcare and a nice small house in a good school district. I’m the embodiment of the American dream, having gone to an Ivy League school and been relatively successful and none have a family of my own.

Democrats have abandoned people like my family, legal immigrants with traditional values. I’m done. The disrespect and disdain for anyone who disagrees with the extreme edges of the party drives people away. This thread is just one example of it.

I agree. I feel pushed away by the Democratic Party, too. I have very progressive relatives (close-in MD). I don’t even have to disagree; if I simply ask the wrong question, dinner becomes combative and uncomfortable.

It is absolutely doing damage to the Democrats. If shutting down conversation is the go-to method of operating, I’m not interested in participating.

Example of a “wrong question”?

Sure. Recently, during a conversation about restorative justice in schools:
“But does this have the potential to make the victim feel uncomfortable?”

Clearly you said more than that to turn a conversation combative or get called MAGA.

Nope. That was it. That was all I said to cause a combative table.

You fail to realize how openly aggressive some of your progressive counterparts are. And until the Democratic Party is able to acknowledge this, you’ll continue to push away moderate voters.

I also work in a very conservative organization. I suspect I disagree with all of my coworkers’ opinions. Yet I find them easier to talk to about politics than my progressive relatives.

DP and yeah. I bet there is context here you are conveniently leaving out. But whatever. Let b1tchy people "force" you to vote for the real extremists because you're a big baby.

Someone had the nerve to disagree with me so I am voting for Nazis!

People like this are just far right maga adjacent, anyway. The democrats need to build a party without these nutty milquetoast moderates.

This approach worked so well in 2024 🙄

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Anonymous wrote:I am really struggling with picking a candidate for the VA lieutenant governor primary this year? None of them seem particularly moderate and their policy platform issues seem almost identical. I just want a moderate dem that won’t support some of the more unhinged progressive policy agendas. I am looking for one that will respect local voter control over communities (eg. No Tyson’s Casino bills or state level zoning reforms that force density on communities that don’t want it). Someone who is actually reasonable about public safety and doesn’t want to reduce penalties on crime. Also, don’t tell me to vote for Babur Lateef (in the primary) he is super sleazy and will bring nothing good to our state. So out of the other remaining candidates which one is the most moderate?

You are not a dem. You are a maga idiot.
What do you not understand?

There is no Republican party anywhere in the US.

They are traitors full on traitors and we can not afford one criminal, lying traitor to be elected in the State of MD.

Andy Harris is a Republican in MD he's a dam liar and criminal and traitor. He has done nothing in office for the people that voted for him.

Republicans do not "respect voter control" you fool.

Shut up. I am tired of these lying posts.

The tolerant left at it again!

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Anonymous wrote:Moderates can’t survive primaries. As a moderate dem every time I open my mouth about a modern or social issue I get judged harshly by more extreme dems.

This is my experience, too. And the few times I’ve tried to speak more moderately (not MAGA), I’ve been called names and told I’m ignorant. And when I’ve calmly explained I voted for Harris but have concerns, I’ve been told I am lying and I must be a Trumper.

I find some of my progressive friends openly hostile. I can’t have reasoned conversations with them.

Oh no. Poor bigots don’t like to be called out for their bigotry.

A moderate Harris support is now a bigot?

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Anonymous wrote:Moderates can’t survive primaries. As a moderate dem every time I open my mouth about a modern or social issue I get judged harshly by more extreme dems.

This is my experience, too. And the few times I’ve tried to speak more moderately (not MAGA), I’ve been called names and told I’m ignorant. And when I’ve calmly explained I voted for Harris but have concerns, I’ve been told I am lying and I must be a Trumper.

I find some of my progressive friends openly hostile. I can’t have reasoned conversations with them.

Oh no. Poor bigots don’t like to be called out for their bigotry.

A moderate Harris support is now a bigot?

To progressives, if you are not a progressive, and you criticize any progressive, you are a traitor. They are the opposite side of the same coin as MAGA.

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Anonymous wrote:Moderates can’t survive primaries. As a moderate dem every time I open my mouth about a modern or social issue I get judged harshly by more extreme dems.

This is my experience, too. And the few times I’ve tried to speak more moderately (not MAGA), I’ve been called names and told I’m ignorant. And when I’ve calmly explained I voted for Harris but have concerns, I’ve been told I am lying and I must be a Trumper.

I find some of my progressive friends openly hostile. I can’t have reasoned conversations with them.

Oh no. Poor bigots don’t like to be called out for their bigotry.

Perfect example here. What did I say that was bigoted?

But you did illustrate my point. It’s difficult to have a conversation if you’re immediately met with assumptions and unearned insults. And this, unfortunately, seems to happen almost every time I talk to a progressive coworker or friend.

What names were you called when you shared your views?

It always starts with MAGA, which I’ve learned means “any view I don’t agree with.” Or I’m called ignorant or stupid.

I haven’t gotten racist or bigot. Well, until now. I was just informed I’m a bigot now.

Because if you agree with any Trump policies you clearly are even if you're hiding behind "economic concerns" which of course he's also horrible at. I honestly can't believe any truly educated person believing a single word out of his mouth.

And here’s another one. I’ve said nothing about my beliefs and I haven’t said ANYTHING about agreeing with Trump’s policies, yet posters are questioning my intelligence. All I’ve done is identify myself as a moderate who wants a reasoned conversation.

Multiple posters have now illustrated why it can’t happen.

Because we’ve had countless threads like this. And, without fail, the OP is either a lying sack of sht troll and/or when you drill down on issues is actually MAGA.

Dp. Again, all you’re doing is driving people away. I voted D for decades. My parents were immigrants who didn’t go to high school. Dad had a blue collar job and thanks to the union we had healthcare and a nice small house in a good school district. I’m the embodiment of the American dream, having gone to an Ivy League school and been relatively successful and none have a family of my own.

Democrats have abandoned people like my family, legal immigrants with traditional values. I’m done. The disrespect and disdain for anyone who disagrees with the extreme edges of the party drives people away. This thread is just one example of it.

I agree. I feel pushed away by the Democratic Party, too. I have very progressive relatives (close-in MD). I don’t even have to disagree; if I simply ask the wrong question, dinner becomes combative and uncomfortable.

It is absolutely doing damage to the Democrats. If shutting down conversation is the go-to method of operating, I’m not interested in participating.

Example of a “wrong question”?

Sure. Recently, during a conversation about restorative justice in schools:
“But does this have the potential to make the victim feel uncomfortable?”

New poster. 100%. Restorative Justice is not evidenced based in the least. It certainly does not improve school safety. But to bring this up makes you racist.

Careful now, you will be labeled a racist for saying that.

You can't have a thoughtful conversation with Progressives or MAGA.

My spouse is a die-hard liberal, and even they are getting tired of Progressive policies in our county.

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Anonymous wrote:Moderates can’t survive primaries. As a moderate dem every time I open my mouth about a modern or social issue I get judged harshly by more extreme dems.

This is my experience, too. And the few times I’ve tried to speak more moderately (not MAGA), I’ve been called names and told I’m ignorant. And when I’ve calmly explained I voted for Harris but have concerns, I’ve been told I am lying and I must be a Trumper.

I find some of my progressive friends openly hostile. I can’t have reasoned conversations with them.

Oh no. Poor bigots don’t like to be called out for their bigotry.

A moderate Harris support is now a bigot?

Depends on the "concerns".

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Anonymous wrote:Moderates can’t survive primaries. As a moderate dem every time I open my mouth about a modern or social issue I get judged harshly by more extreme dems.

This is my experience, too. And the few times I’ve tried to speak more moderately (not MAGA), I’ve been called names and told I’m ignorant. And when I’ve calmly explained I voted for Harris but have concerns, I’ve been told I am lying and I must be a Trumper.

I find some of my progressive friends openly hostile. I can’t have reasoned conversations with them.

Oh no. Poor bigots don’t like to be called out for their bigotry.

Perfect example here. What did I say that was bigoted?

But you did illustrate my point. It’s difficult to have a conversation if you’re immediately met with assumptions and unearned insults. And this, unfortunately, seems to happen almost every time I talk to a progressive coworker or friend.

What names were you called when you shared your views?

It always starts with MAGA, which I’ve learned means “any view I don’t agree with.” Or I’m called ignorant or stupid.

I haven’t gotten racist or bigot. Well, until now. I was just informed I’m a bigot now.

Because if you agree with any Trump policies you clearly are even if you're hiding behind "economic concerns" which of course he's also horrible at. I honestly can't believe any truly educated person believing a single word out of his mouth.

And here’s another one. I’ve said nothing about my beliefs and I haven’t said ANYTHING about agreeing with Trump’s policies, yet posters are questioning my intelligence. All I’ve done is identify myself as a moderate who wants a reasoned conversation.

Multiple posters have now illustrated why it can’t happen.

Because we’ve had countless threads like this. And, without fail, the OP is either a lying sack of sht troll and/or when you drill down on issues is actually MAGA.

Dp. Again, all you’re doing is driving people away. I voted D for decades. My parents were immigrants who didn’t go to high school. Dad had a blue collar job and thanks to the union we had healthcare and a nice small house in a good school district. I’m the embodiment of the American dream, having gone to an Ivy League school and been relatively successful and none have a family of my own.

Democrats have abandoned people like my family, legal immigrants with traditional values. I’m done. The disrespect and disdain for anyone who disagrees with the extreme edges of the party drives people away. This thread is just one example of it.

I agree. I feel pushed away by the Democratic Party, too. I have very progressive relatives (close-in MD). I don’t even have to disagree; if I simply ask the wrong question, dinner becomes combative and uncomfortable.

It is absolutely doing damage to the Democrats. If shutting down conversation is the go-to method of operating, I’m not interested in participating.

Example of a “wrong question”?

Sure. Recently, during a conversation about restorative justice in schools:
“But does this have the potential to make the victim feel uncomfortable?”

Clearly you said more than that to turn a conversation combative or get called MAGA.

Nope. That was it. That was all I said to cause a combative table.

You fail to realize how openly aggressive some of your progressive counterparts are. And until the Democratic Party is able to acknowledge this, you’ll continue to push away moderate voters.

I also work in a very conservative organization. I suspect I disagree with all of my coworkers’ opinions. Yet I find them easier to talk to about politics than my progressive relatives.

DP and yeah. I bet there is context here you are conveniently leaving out. But whatever. Let b1tchy people "force" you to vote for the real extremists because you're a big baby.

Someone had the nerve to disagree with me so I am voting for Nazis!

People like this are just far right maga adjacent, anyway. The democrats need to build a party without these nutty milquetoast moderates.

More accurately, somebody had the nerve to challenge an idea so I must completely write them off. I simply can’t accept the idea that beliefs exist on a spectrum. If someone disagrees with me, they are clearly a MAGA and not worthy of respect or basic decency.

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Anonymous wrote:Moderates can’t survive primaries. As a moderate dem every time I open my mouth about a modern or social issue I get judged harshly by more extreme dems.

This is my experience, too. And the few times I’ve tried to speak more moderately (not MAGA), I’ve been called names and told I’m ignorant. And when I’ve calmly explained I voted for Harris but have concerns, I’ve been told I am lying and I must be a Trumper.

I find some of my progressive friends openly hostile. I can’t have reasoned conversations with them.

Oh no. Poor bigots don’t like to be called out for their bigotry.

Perfect example here. What did I say that was bigoted?

But you did illustrate my point. It’s difficult to have a conversation if you’re immediately met with assumptions and unearned insults. And this, unfortunately, seems to happen almost every time I talk to a progressive coworker or friend.

What names were you called when you shared your views?

It always starts with MAGA, which I’ve learned means “any view I don’t agree with.” Or I’m called ignorant or stupid.

I haven’t gotten racist or bigot. Well, until now. I was just informed I’m a bigot now.

Because if you agree with any Trump policies you clearly are even if you're hiding behind "economic concerns" which of course he's also horrible at. I honestly can't believe any truly educated person believing a single word out of his mouth.

And here’s another one. I’ve said nothing about my beliefs and I haven’t said ANYTHING about agreeing with Trump’s policies, yet posters are questioning my intelligence. All I’ve done is identify myself as a moderate who wants a reasoned conversation.

Multiple posters have now illustrated why it can’t happen.

Because we’ve had countless threads like this. And, without fail, the OP is either a lying sack of sht troll and/or when you drill down on issues is actually MAGA.

Dp. Again, all you’re doing is driving people away. I voted D for decades. My parents were immigrants who didn’t go to high school. Dad had a blue collar job and thanks to the union we had healthcare and a nice small house in a good school district. I’m the embodiment of the American dream, having gone to an Ivy League school and been relatively successful and none have a family of my own.

Democrats have abandoned people like my family, legal immigrants with traditional values. I’m done. The disrespect and disdain for anyone who disagrees with the extreme edges of the party drives people away. This thread is just one example of it.

Please explain these “traditional values” that you don’t think are compatible with the DNC platform.

If you get a student loan, you agree to the terms, and you pay it off.

You are “done” with Ds and are now going to vote R because of…student loan forgiveness?

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Anonymous wrote:Moderates can’t survive primaries. As a moderate dem every time I open my mouth about a modern or social issue I get judged harshly by more extreme dems.

This is my experience, too. And the few times I’ve tried to speak more moderately (not MAGA), I’ve been called names and told I’m ignorant. And when I’ve calmly explained I voted for Harris but have concerns, I’ve been told I am lying and I must be a Trumper.

I find some of my progressive friends openly hostile. I can’t have reasoned conversations with them.

Oh no. Poor bigots don’t like to be called out for their bigotry.

Perfect example here. What did I say that was bigoted?

But you did illustrate my point. It’s difficult to have a conversation if you’re immediately met with assumptions and unearned insults. And this, unfortunately, seems to happen almost every time I talk to a progressive coworker or friend.

What names were you called when you shared your views?

It always starts with MAGA, which I’ve learned means “any view I don’t agree with.” Or I’m called ignorant or stupid.

I haven’t gotten racist or bigot. Well, until now. I was just informed I’m a bigot now.

Because if you agree with any Trump policies you clearly are even if you're hiding behind "economic concerns" which of course he's also horrible at. I honestly can't believe any truly educated person believing a single word out of his mouth.

And here’s another one. I’ve said nothing about my beliefs and I haven’t said ANYTHING about agreeing with Trump’s policies, yet posters are questioning my intelligence. All I’ve done is identify myself as a moderate who wants a reasoned conversation.

Multiple posters have now illustrated why it can’t happen.

Because we’ve had countless threads like this. And, without fail, the OP is either a lying sack of sht troll and/or when you drill down on issues is actually MAGA.

Dp. Again, all you’re doing is driving people away. I voted D for decades. My parents were immigrants who didn’t go to high school. Dad had a blue collar job and thanks to the union we had healthcare and a nice small house in a good school district. I’m the embodiment of the American dream, having gone to an Ivy League school and been relatively successful and none have a family of my own.

Democrats have abandoned people like my family, legal immigrants with traditional values. I’m done. The disrespect and disdain for anyone who disagrees with the extreme edges of the party drives people away. This thread is just one example of it.

I agree. I feel pushed away by the Democratic Party, too. I have very progressive relatives (close-in MD). I don’t even have to disagree; if I simply ask the wrong question, dinner becomes combative and uncomfortable.

It is absolutely doing damage to the Democrats. If shutting down conversation is the go-to method of operating, I’m not interested in participating.

Example of a “wrong question”?

Sure. Recently, during a conversation about restorative justice in schools:
“But does this have the potential to make the victim feel uncomfortable?”

Clearly you said more than that to turn a conversation combative or get called MAGA.

Nope. That was it. That was all I said to cause a combative table.

You fail to realize how openly aggressive some of your progressive counterparts are. And until the Democratic Party is able to acknowledge this, you’ll continue to push away moderate voters.

I also work in a very conservative organization. I suspect I disagree with all of my coworkers’ opinions. Yet I find them easier to talk to about politics than my progressive relatives.

There is probably backstory.

What other “questions” have you asked?

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Anonymous wrote:I would call Moco pretty moderate. Just look at this book banning lawsuit. That doesn’t get raised in a far left haven.

That’s because we have Muslim and Latino immigrants, thank God. They’re the only forces keeping MoCo from becoming Portland Oregon. Without them the blue haired librarians wouldn’t have any checks and balances.

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Anonymous wrote:I would call Moco pretty moderate. Just look at this book banning lawsuit. That doesn’t get raised in a far left haven.

That’s because we have Muslim and Latino immigrants, thank God. They’re the only forces keeping MoCo from becoming Portland Oregon. Without them the blue haired librarians wouldn’t have any checks and balances.

Your worldview is fascinating.

Fictional, but fascinating.

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Anonymous wrote:Moderates can’t survive primaries. As a moderate dem every time I open my mouth about a modern or social issue I get judged harshly by more extreme dems.

This is my experience, too. And the few times I’ve tried to speak more moderately (not MAGA), I’ve been called names and told I’m ignorant. And when I’ve calmly explained I voted for Harris but have concerns, I’ve been told I am lying and I must be a Trumper.

I find some of my progressive friends openly hostile. I can’t have reasoned conversations with them.

Oh no. Poor bigots don’t like to be called out for their bigotry.

Perfect example here. What did I say that was bigoted?

But you did illustrate my point. It’s difficult to have a conversation if you’re immediately met with assumptions and unearned insults. And this, unfortunately, seems to happen almost every time I talk to a progressive coworker or friend.

What names were you called when you shared your views?

It always starts with MAGA, which I’ve learned means “any view I don’t agree with.” Or I’m called ignorant or stupid.

I haven’t gotten racist or bigot. Well, until now. I was just informed I’m a bigot now.

Because if you agree with any Trump policies you clearly are even if you're hiding behind "economic concerns" which of course he's also horrible at. I honestly can't believe any truly educated person believing a single word out of his mouth.

And here’s another one. I’ve said nothing about my beliefs and I haven’t said ANYTHING about agreeing with Trump’s policies, yet posters are questioning my intelligence. All I’ve done is identify myself as a moderate who wants a reasoned conversation.

Multiple posters have now illustrated why it can’t happen.

Because we’ve had countless threads like this. And, without fail, the OP is either a lying sack of sht troll and/or when you drill down on issues is actually MAGA.

Dp. Again, all you’re doing is driving people away. I voted D for decades. My parents were immigrants who didn’t go to high school. Dad had a blue collar job and thanks to the union we had healthcare and a nice small house in a good school district. I’m the embodiment of the American dream, having gone to an Ivy League school and been relatively successful and none have a family of my own.

Democrats have abandoned people like my family, legal immigrants with traditional values. I’m done. The disrespect and disdain for anyone who disagrees with the extreme edges of the party drives people away. This thread is just one example of it.

I agree. I feel pushed away by the Democratic Party, too. I have very progressive relatives (close-in MD). I don’t even have to disagree; if I simply ask the wrong question, dinner becomes combative and uncomfortable.

It is absolutely doing damage to the Democrats. If shutting down conversation is the go-to method of operating, I’m not interested in participating.

Example of a “wrong question”?

Sure. Recently, during a conversation about restorative justice in schools:
“But does this have the potential to make the victim feel uncomfortable?”

Clearly you said more than that to turn a conversation combative or get called MAGA.

Nope. That was it. That was all I said to cause a combative table.

You fail to realize how openly aggressive some of your progressive counterparts are. And until the Democratic Party is able to acknowledge this, you’ll continue to push away moderate voters.

I also work in a very conservative organization. I suspect I disagree with all of my coworkers’ opinions. Yet I find them easier to talk to about politics than my progressive relatives.

DP and yeah. I bet there is context here you are conveniently leaving out. But whatever. Let b1tchy people "force" you to vote for the real extremists because you're a big baby.

Someone had the nerve to disagree with me so I am voting for Nazis!

People like this are just far right maga adjacent, anyway. The democrats need to build a party without these nutty milquetoast moderates.

More accurately, somebody had the nerve to challenge an idea so I must completely write them off. I simply can’t accept the idea that beliefs exist on a spectrum. If someone disagrees with me, they are clearly a MAGA and not worthy of respect or basic decency.

Well, you are partially right, which I guess is nice for you.

If someone’s “challenging idea” pushes them to support people that are very clearly in the wrong, especially when that “challenging idea” is preposterous, they should be written off as inconsequential. They can’t be trusted to move society forward in a positive way, so why spend time, energy, or money trying to appeal to those people that can’t think their way out of a wet paper bag?

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Anonymous wrote:Moderates can’t survive primaries. As a moderate dem every time I open my mouth about a modern or social issue I get judged harshly by more extreme dems.

This is my experience, too. And the few times I’ve tried to speak more moderately (not MAGA), I’ve been called names and told I’m ignorant. And when I’ve calmly explained I voted for Harris but have concerns, I’ve been told I am lying and I must be a Trumper.

I find some of my progressive friends openly hostile. I can’t have reasoned conversations with them.

Oh no. Poor bigots don’t like to be called out for their bigotry.

Perfect example here. What did I say that was bigoted?

But you did illustrate my point. It’s difficult to have a conversation if you’re immediately met with assumptions and unearned insults. And this, unfortunately, seems to happen almost every time I talk to a progressive coworker or friend.

What names were you called when you shared your views?

It always starts with MAGA, which I’ve learned means “any view I don’t agree with.” Or I’m called ignorant or stupid.

I haven’t gotten racist or bigot. Well, until now. I was just informed I’m a bigot now.

Because if you agree with any Trump policies you clearly are even if you're hiding behind "economic concerns" which of course he's also horrible at. I honestly can't believe any truly educated person believing a single word out of his mouth.

And here’s another one. I’ve said nothing about my beliefs and I haven’t said ANYTHING about agreeing with Trump’s policies, yet posters are questioning my intelligence. All I’ve done is identify myself as a moderate who wants a reasoned conversation.

Multiple posters have now illustrated why it can’t happen.

Because we’ve had countless threads like this. And, without fail, the OP is either a lying sack of sht troll and/or when you drill down on issues is actually MAGA.

Dp. Again, all you’re doing is driving people away. I voted D for decades. My parents were immigrants who didn’t go to high school. Dad had a blue collar job and thanks to the union we had healthcare and a nice small house in a good school district. I’m the embodiment of the American dream, having gone to an Ivy League school and been relatively successful and none have a family of my own.

Democrats have abandoned people like my family, legal immigrants with traditional values. I’m done. The disrespect and disdain for anyone who disagrees with the extreme edges of the party drives people away. This thread is just one example of it.

Please explain these “traditional values” that you don’t think are compatible with the DNC platform.

If you get a student loan, you agree to the terms, and you pay it off.

You are “done” with Ds and are now going to vote R because of…student loan forgiveness?

They have very ridiculous ideas of what is important.

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Anonymous wrote:I would call Moco pretty moderate. Just look at this book banning lawsuit. That doesn’t get raised in a far left haven.

? No, MoCo is progressive. Even my die hard liberal spouse says so, and getting tired of their progressive policies.