What happened to Moderate Dems VA/MD?

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Anonymous wrote:The problem is you (general) want a moderate dem to be what republicans were before the tea party and MAGA.

What you call "unhinged" is what the party should be standing for instead of chasing the right to catch voters like you.

This.

I grew up in a Republican family. The modern Democratic party is closer to the old school Repubs, than the MAGA or Tea Party types. They aren't extreme to me, and seem really moderate.

Right wing outlets will claim absurd stuff like "they want 3rd trimester abortions for all!" or "they want gender changes for 5 year olds!" but that's total BS. No Democrat is remotely arguing those kinds of things.

FYI I voted for Hashemi today.

Exactly. The educated, moderate Rs I know from the 90s are all Ds now.

I think they may vote D because this area is controlled by Ds so they want a say in who gets elected, but IMO, moderate Rs are probably Independents.

-former R, moderate, who is now Independent but registered as a D so I can have a say in the primaries.

This is me. Can we please just get a normal person in office who isn't a scumbag that hates immigrants and women, doesn't wear identity politics on their sleeves and isn't trying to destroy capitalism or the so-called "wealthy" (aka dual income earners).

So....just about every D candidate.

Ask a Democrat to explain what a woman is.

Who cares? No remotely moderate person cares about such benign things.

I've used the women's bathroom and women's locker room for 45 years, and have never felt unsafe or concerned. Sounds like you need some real problems in your life, pp.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The problem is you (general) want a moderate dem to be what republicans were before the tea party and MAGA.

What you call "unhinged" is what the party should be standing for instead of chasing the right to catch voters like you.

This.

I grew up in a Republican family. The modern Democratic party is closer to the old school Repubs, than the MAGA or Tea Party types. They aren't extreme to me, and seem really moderate.

Right wing outlets will claim absurd stuff like "they want 3rd trimester abortions for all!" or "they want gender changes for 5 year olds!" but that's total BS. No Democrat is remotely arguing those kinds of things.

FYI I voted for Hashemi today.

Exactly. The educated, moderate Rs I know from the 90s are all Ds now.

I think they may vote D because this area is controlled by Ds so they want a say in who gets elected, but IMO, moderate Rs are probably Independents.

-former R, moderate, who is now Independent but registered as a D so I can have a say in the primaries.

This is me. Can we please just get a normal person in office who isn't a scumbag that hates immigrants and women, doesn't wear identity politics on their sleeves and isn't trying to destroy capitalism or the so-called "wealthy" (aka dual income earners).

So....just about every D candidate.

Um I'm not sure about that. Look at the intro statements for the dem candidates.

Bastani: $20 minimum wage and every VA resident (regardless of legal status) gets free healthcare.
Hashimi: “housing is a human right” and “LGBTQIA bigotry”/”systemic racism” are central to her campaign.
Stoney: “affordable housing crisis” and “Virginia is the capitol of compassion”

Half of them seem super left leaning.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ranked choice voting will bring the moderates to the ticket!

Congress is talking about banning ranked choice voting

Ranked choice voting can be gamed. I know it's the flavor of the day, but it's a bad idea.

Cite?

Say you have three candidates - two decide to cooperate. Candidate A tells voters to vote for candidate B as their second choice. Candidate B tells voters to vote for Candidate A for second choice. What happens to candidate C? Insert demographics for the three candidates and figure that out.

Why not just have the candidate who wins the greatest number of votes, even if its a plurality?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The problem is you (general) want a moderate dem to be what republicans were before the tea party and MAGA.

What you call "unhinged" is what the party should be standing for instead of chasing the right to catch voters like you.

This.

I grew up in a Republican family. The modern Democratic party is closer to the old school Repubs, than the MAGA or Tea Party types. They aren't extreme to me, and seem really moderate.

Right wing outlets will claim absurd stuff like "they want 3rd trimester abortions for all!" or "they want gender changes for 5 year olds!" but that's total BS. No Democrat is remotely arguing those kinds of things.

FYI I voted for Hashemi today.

Exactly. The educated, moderate Rs I know from the 90s are all Ds now.

I think they may vote D because this area is controlled by Ds so they want a say in who gets elected, but IMO, moderate Rs are probably Independents.

-former R, moderate, who is now Independent but registered as a D so I can have a say in the primaries.

This is me. Can we please just get a normal person in office who isn't a scumbag that hates immigrants and women, doesn't wear identity politics on their sleeves and isn't trying to destroy capitalism or the so-called "wealthy" (aka dual income earners).

So....just about every D candidate.

Um I'm not sure about that. Look at the intro statements for the dem candidates.

Bastani: $20 minimum wage and every VA resident (regardless of legal status) gets free healthcare.
Hashimi: “housing is a human right” and “LGBTQIA bigotry”/”systemic racism” are central to her campaign.
Stoney: “affordable housing crisis” and “Virginia is the capitol of compassion”

Half of them seem super left leaning.

PP who grew up in a solidly Republican family. For the life of me, I'll never understand what's extreme about any of those statements. They're not left leaning - they're human-care leaning. What kind of weirdo is bothered by those statements?

They are far more attractive to me than someone who runs on dividision, or further funding the military industrial complex while taking away from people-care.

[Anonymous]

Moderates can’t survive primaries. As a moderate dem every time I open my mouth about a modern or social issue I get judged harshly by more extreme dems.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The problem is you (general) want a moderate dem to be what republicans were before the tea party and MAGA.

What you call "unhinged" is what the party should be standing for instead of chasing the right to catch voters like you.

This.

I grew up in a Republican family. The modern Democratic party is closer to the old school Repubs, than the MAGA or Tea Party types. They aren't extreme to me, and seem really moderate.

Right wing outlets will claim absurd stuff like "they want 3rd trimester abortions for all!" or "they want gender changes for 5 year olds!" but that's total BS. No Democrat is remotely arguing those kinds of things.

FYI I voted for Hashemi today.

Exactly. The educated, moderate Rs I know from the 90s are all Ds now.

I think they may vote D because this area is controlled by Ds so they want a say in who gets elected, but IMO, moderate Rs are probably Independents.

-former R, moderate, who is now Independent but registered as a D so I can have a say in the primaries.

This is me. Can we please just get a normal person in office who isn't a scumbag that hates immigrants and women, doesn't wear identity politics on their sleeves and isn't trying to destroy capitalism or the so-called "wealthy" (aka dual income earners).

So....just about every D candidate.

Um I'm not sure about that. Look at the intro statements for the dem candidates.

Bastani: $20 minimum wage and every VA resident (regardless of legal status) gets free healthcare.
Hashimi: “housing is a human right” and “LGBTQIA bigotry”/”systemic racism” are central to her campaign.
Stoney: “affordable housing crisis” and “Virginia is the capitol of compassion”

Half of them seem super left leaning.

B: Pro-worker is on the progressive side, but is not “trying to destroy capitalism”.

H: Her platform is much broader than that. She’s prioritizing economy, education, housing. You’re cherry picking comments.

S: Again, you’re cherry picking.

They are all normal people with normal (boring) platforms. They all meet the PP’s criteria.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ranked choice voting will bring the moderates to the ticket!

Congress is talking about banning ranked choice voting

Ranked choice voting can be gamed. I know it's the flavor of the day, but it's a bad idea.

Cite?

Say you have three candidates - two decide to cooperate. Candidate A tells voters to vote for candidate B as their second choice. Candidate B tells voters to vote for Candidate A for second choice. What happens to candidate C? Insert demographics for the three candidates and figure that out.

Why not just have the candidate who wins the greatest number of votes, even if its a plurality?

Apparently, the bulk of voters would prefer A or B but not C. It seems to be working as designed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The problem is you (general) want a moderate dem to be what republicans were before the tea party and MAGA.

What you call "unhinged" is what the party should be standing for instead of chasing the right to catch voters like you.

This.

I grew up in a Republican family. The modern Democratic party is closer to the old school Repubs, than the MAGA or Tea Party types. They aren't extreme to me, and seem really moderate.

Right wing outlets will claim absurd stuff like "they want 3rd trimester abortions for all!" or "they want gender changes for 5 year olds!" but that's total BS. No Democrat is remotely arguing those kinds of things.

FYI I voted for Hashemi today.

Exactly. The educated, moderate Rs I know from the 90s are all Ds now.

I think they may vote D because this area is controlled by Ds so they want a say in who gets elected, but IMO, moderate Rs are probably Independents.

-former R, moderate, who is now Independent but registered as a D so I can have a say in the primaries.

This is me. Can we please just get a normal person in office who isn't a scumbag that hates immigrants and women, doesn't wear identity politics on their sleeves and isn't trying to destroy capitalism or the so-called "wealthy" (aka dual income earners).

So....just about every D candidate.

Ask a Democrat to explain what a woman is.

Who cares? No remotely moderate person cares about such benign things.

I've used the women's bathroom and women's locker room for 45 years, and have never felt unsafe or concerned. Sounds like you need some real problems in your life, pp.

I could care less which bathroom you use. If you can't answer a simple question, you shouldn't be in office.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem is you (general) want a moderate dem to be what republicans were before the tea party and MAGA.

What you call "unhinged" is what the party should be standing for instead of chasing the right to catch voters like you.

This.

I grew up in a Republican family. The modern Democratic party is closer to the old school Repubs, than the MAGA or Tea Party types. They aren't extreme to me, and seem really moderate.

Right wing outlets will claim absurd stuff like "they want 3rd trimester abortions for all!" or "they want gender changes for 5 year olds!" but that's total BS. No Democrat is remotely arguing those kinds of things.

FYI I voted for Hashemi today.

Exactly. The educated, moderate Rs I know from the 90s are all Ds now.

I think they may vote D because this area is controlled by Ds so they want a say in who gets elected, but IMO, moderate Rs are probably Independents.

-former R, moderate, who is now Independent but registered as a D so I can have a say in the primaries.

This is me. Can we please just get a normal person in office who isn't a scumbag that hates immigrants and women, doesn't wear identity politics on their sleeves and isn't trying to destroy capitalism or the so-called "wealthy" (aka dual income earners).

So....just about every D candidate.

Um I'm not sure about that. Look at the intro statements for the dem candidates.

Bastani: $20 minimum wage and every VA resident (regardless of legal status) gets free healthcare.
Hashimi: “housing is a human right” and “LGBTQIA bigotry”/”systemic racism” are central to her campaign.
Stoney: “affordable housing crisis” and “Virginia is the capitol of compassion”

Half of them seem super left leaning.

B: Pro-worker is on the progressive side, but is not “trying to destroy capitalism”.

H: Her platform is much broader than that. She’s prioritizing economy, education, housing. You’re cherry picking comments.

S: Again, you’re cherry picking.

They are all normal people with normal (boring) platforms. They all meet the PP’s criteria.

B: $20/hour minimum wage will (next year with no transition period) will destroy many business is areas outside of Northern Virginia. That is not remotely sustainable and will create significant inflationary pressures. Universal healthcare at the state level will bankrupt Virginias government. This policy is only feasible at the federal level.
H: Seems overly focused on progressive social justice issues and will definitely support bills that allow violent criminals on the street because it’s “unfair” and thinks that criminals can be rehabilitated.
S: Is obsessed with affordable housing. He wants to override local zoning to force density and section 8 housing in peoples neighborhoods.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The thing is, in reality, there are so few extreme left politicians on the left. It's just that right has gone soooooo right anything the other way starts to look extreme.

Certainly, there is no preponderance of extreme organized, far ideology on the left as there is in MAGA and the Republican party as a whole.

This made me lol. You are delusional. The far left has as many and is as extreme as the far right. Each side grows proportionately to the conflicting extremism. Basically, extremism breeds more extremism. On both sides. It will only get worse.

This analysis is badly missing a "power" lens. Yes, there exist extreme leftists and extreme right wingers, but the extreme leftists very rarely hold state or national office. That's why you always get this analysis that looks like "An Oberlin sophomore said bahn mi is cultural appropriation" being presented alongside "President of the United States Donald J Trump (GOP) repeated white supremacist talking points today from the Oval Office, claiming that Haitians eat dogs."

But they hold local office, controlling schools and local crime enforcement, imposing extremism on both, which arguably affect people's daily lives more.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The thing is, in reality, there are so few extreme left politicians on the left. It's just that right has gone soooooo right anything the other way starts to look extreme.

Certainly, there is no preponderance of extreme organized, far ideology on the left as there is in MAGA and the Republican party as a whole.

This made me lol. You are delusional. The far left has as many and is as extreme as the far right. Each side grows proportionately to the conflicting extremism. Basically, extremism breeds more extremism. On both sides. It will only get worse.

This analysis is badly missing a "power" lens. Yes, there exist extreme leftists and extreme right wingers, but the extreme leftists very rarely hold state or national office. That's why you always get this analysis that looks like "An Oberlin sophomore said bahn mi is cultural appropriation" being presented alongside "President of the United States Donald J Trump (GOP) repeated white supremacist talking points today from the Oval Office, claiming that Haitians eat dogs."

But they hold local office, controlling schools and local crime enforcement, imposing extremism on both, which arguably affect people's daily lives more.

That is why elimating local control over zoning is such a trojan horse issue that will absolutely destroy many communities. We don't want lobbyist in Richmond and extremeost to tell small towns what their community should look like.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am really struggling with picking a candidate for the VA lieutenant governor primary this year? None of them seem particularly moderate and their policy platform issues seem almost identical. I just want a moderate dem that won’t support some of the more unhinged progressive policy agendas. I am looking for one that will respect local voter control over communities (eg. No Tyson’s Casino bills or state level zoning reforms that force density on communities that don’t want it). Someone who is actually reasonable about public safety and doesn’t want to reduce penalties on crime. Also, don’t tell me to vote for Babur Lateef (in the primary) he is super sleazy and will bring nothing good to our state. So out of the other remaining candidates which one is the most moderate?

You are not a dem. You are a maga idiot.
What do you not understand?

There is no Republican party anywhere in the US.

They are traitors full on traitors and we can not afford one criminal, lying traitor to be elected in the State of MD.

Andy Harris is a Republican in MD he's a dam liar and criminal and traitor. He has done nothing in office for the people that voted for him.

Republicans do not "respect voter control" you fool.

Shut up. I am tired of these lying posts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The thing is, in reality, there are so few extreme left politicians on the left. It's just that right has gone soooooo right anything the other way starts to look extreme.

Certainly, there is no preponderance of extreme organized, far ideology on the left as there is in MAGA and the Republican party as a whole.

This made me lol. You are delusional. The far left has as many and is as extreme as the far right. Each side grows proportionately to the conflicting extremism. Basically, extremism breeds more extremism. On both sides. It will only get worse.

This analysis is badly missing a "power" lens. Yes, there exist extreme leftists and extreme right wingers, but the extreme leftists very rarely hold state or national office. That's why you always get this analysis that looks like "An Oberlin sophomore said bahn mi is cultural appropriation" being presented alongside "President of the United States Donald J Trump (GOP) repeated white supremacist talking points today from the Oval Office, claiming that Haitians eat dogs."

But they hold local office, controlling schools and local crime enforcement, imposing extremism on both, which arguably affect people's daily lives more.

That is why elimating local control over zoning is such a trojan horse issue that will absolutely destroy many communities. We don't want lobbyist in Richmond and extremeost to tell small towns what their community should look like.

Without local control over zoning, residents have no control schools, crime, or quality of life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The thing is, in reality, there are so few extreme left politicians on the left. It's just that right has gone soooooo right anything the other way starts to look extreme.

Certainly, there is no preponderance of extreme organized, far ideology on the left as there is in MAGA and the Republican party as a whole.

This made me lol. You are delusional. The far left has as many and is as extreme as the far right. Each side grows proportionately to the conflicting extremism. Basically, extremism breeds more extremism. On both sides. It will only get worse.

This analysis is badly missing a "power" lens. Yes, there exist extreme leftists and extreme right wingers, but the extreme leftists very rarely hold state or national office. That's why you always get this analysis that looks like "An Oberlin sophomore said bahn mi is cultural appropriation" being presented alongside "President of the United States Donald J Trump (GOP) repeated white supremacist talking points today from the Oval Office, claiming that Haitians eat dogs."

But they hold local office, controlling schools and local crime enforcement, imposing extremism on both, which arguably affect people's daily lives more.

That is why elimating local control over zoning is such a trojan horse issue that will absolutely destroy many communities. We don't want lobbyist in Richmond and extremeost to tell small towns what their community should look like.

Without local control over zoning, residents have no control schools, crime, or quality of life.

Sorry, Democrats love central planning where they get the best and brightest minds that government can afford to tell you how your locality is doing it wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem is you (general) want a moderate dem to be what republicans were before the tea party and MAGA.

What you call "unhinged" is what the party should be standing for instead of chasing the right to catch voters like you.

This.

I grew up in a Republican family. The modern Democratic party is closer to the old school Repubs, than the MAGA or Tea Party types. They aren't extreme to me, and seem really moderate.

Right wing outlets will claim absurd stuff like "they want 3rd trimester abortions for all!" or "they want gender changes for 5 year olds!" but that's total BS. No Democrat is remotely arguing those kinds of things.

FYI I voted for Hashemi today.

Exactly. The educated, moderate Rs I know from the 90s are all Ds now.

I think they may vote D because this area is controlled by Ds so they want a say in who gets elected, but IMO, moderate Rs are probably Independents.

-former R, moderate, who is now Independent but registered as a D so I can have a say in the primaries.

This is me. Can we please just get a normal person in office who isn't a scumbag that hates immigrants and women, doesn't wear identity politics on their sleeves and isn't trying to destroy capitalism or the so-called "wealthy" (aka dual income earners).

So....just about every D candidate.

Um I'm not sure about that. Look at the intro statements for the dem candidates.

Bastani: $20 minimum wage and every VA resident (regardless of legal status) gets free healthcare.
Hashimi: “housing is a human right” and “LGBTQIA bigotry”/”systemic racism” are central to her campaign.
Stoney: “affordable housing crisis” and “Virginia is the capitol of compassion”

Half of them seem super left leaning.

If accessible and affordable healthcare, housing, a living wage, and stopping the attacks against LGBTQ+ is SUPER LEFT LEANING, then I will take it.