Trump Says Trials for Migrants "Not Possible"

[Anonymous]

People forget that there is an entire shadow economy that operates on illegal migrant labor. If you deport them, produce rots in the fields, hotel rooms don’t get cleaned, etc. All the jobs that Americans don’t want or consider beneath go unfilled. If you make them legal through amnesty, you can’t continue paying them below minimum wage.

But at least your bigotry will be validated.

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Anonymous wrote:I am sorry I don't quite understand how can an illegal immigrant can be turned about away at the border with zero due process but somehow if they make it into the country there has to be due process in order to deport them? Outside of validating their status what else should we need to do?

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And it's really such a shame the Biden administration saw fit to open the floodgates to millions of illegal immigrants in the first place. Let's not forget who bussed them all over the country, often in the dead of night. And now the Trump administration is left to clean up this disaster.

Why do you keep repeating these lies? Biden complied with American and International law where asylum is concerned. He asked for and created bi-partisam legislation to deal with the issue more expediently and Trump got the GOP to reject their own legislation. Now he is using that same lack of judges to flaunt US and International law.

And people like you fall for it.

CBP One App was not required under international law. Millions and millions. It was treason. I want to know who decided we should create a phone app to facilitate an invasion of unskilled, unvetted migrants? That person should be tried for treason. Seriously.

You know what, go ahead and accuse "that person" of treason. It is utterly nonsense and you will be laughed at and scolded for wasting people's time, but I applaud you for FINALLY using our existing legal channels. THAT IS ALL WE ARE ASKING.

What was the purpose other than to destabilize America and facilitate her destruction? As it was summarily stopped and deactivates as an App it was clearly not required by any law, so what was the point? And who developed the App and implemented it?

Let me repeat: I am for the Constitution and the rule of law. Are you??? Pick a lane.

Article 4 it is the Presidents job to control the borders from invasion. An influx that overwhelms our civilian infrastructure to deal with such can only be construed as an invasion.

Only certain places in the country were overwhelmed. Much of the country benefits from immigrants, whether you want to admit it or not. So the answer would be to improve processes and infrastructure and help those places affected, no? And maybe to work on the reasons people come in the first place? What are they fleeing? Maybe mitigate that (Biden admin worked actively on this...look it up).

So how do you feel about the fact that this POTUS and his corrupt DOGE team are dismantling much of our civilian infrastructure, and not even following the law to do so. Mainly so they can get rid of regulations and investigations of their businesses. Do you believe this corruption and lawlessness should be ignored?

Some people mainly thieves argue that there is benefit to be had from theft. Whether what you want to admit it or not what these people benefitting from hiring illegal immigrants is criminal.

Where did I say "illegal" immigrants? I didn't. We benefit from legal immigration. So let's fix the system so it works. Get the majority who are good people on the books. Kick out the criminals.

Trump and you MAGA racists don't want to fix the system. You just want to wail and cry and hate.

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Anonymous wrote:Well. The SC has said otherwise. So we will have a genuine Constitutional crisis and Trump will not win. Grounds for impeachment and there just might be enough Republicans who want to keep our democracy as d who will vote with Dems.

We can hope

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Anonymous wrote:I am sorry I don't quite understand how can an illegal immigrant can be turned about away at the border with zero due process but somehow if they make it into the country there has to be due process in order to deport them? Outside of validating their status what else should we need to do?

+100
And it's really such a shame the Biden administration saw fit to open the floodgates to millions of illegal immigrants in the first place. Let's not forget who bussed them all over the country, often in the dead of night. And now the Trump administration is left to clean up this disaster.

Why do you keep repeating these lies? Biden complied with American and International law where asylum is concerned. He asked for and created bi-partisam legislation to deal with the issue more expediently and Trump got the GOP to reject their own legislation. Now he is using that same lack of judges to flaunt US and International law.

And people like you fall for it.

CBP One App was not required under international law. Millions and millions. It was treason. I want to know who decided we should create a phone app to facilitate an invasion of unskilled, unvetted migrants? That person should be tried for treason. Seriously.

You know what, go ahead and accuse "that person" of treason. It is utterly nonsense and you will be laughed at and scolded for wasting people's time, but I applaud you for FINALLY using our existing legal channels. THAT IS ALL WE ARE ASKING.

What was the purpose other than to destabilize America and facilitate her destruction? As it was summarily stopped and deactivates as an App it was clearly not required by any law, so what was the point? And who developed the App and implemented it?

Let me repeat: I am for the Constitution and the rule of law. Are you??? Pick a lane.

Article 4 it is the Presidents job to control the borders from invasion. An influx that overwhelms our civilian infrastructure to deal with such can only be construed as an invasion.

Only certain places in the country were overwhelmed. Much of the country benefits from immigrants, whether you want to admit it or not. So the answer would be to improve processes and infrastructure and help those places affected, no? And maybe to work on the reasons people come in the first place? What are they fleeing? Maybe mitigate that (Biden admin worked actively on this...look it up).

So how do you feel about the fact that this POTUS and his corrupt DOGE team are dismantling much of our civilian infrastructure, and not even following the law to do so. Mainly so they can get rid of regulations and investigations of their businesses. Do you believe this corruption and lawlessness should be ignored?

Some people mainly thieves argue that there is benefit to be had from theft. Whether what you want to admit it or not what these people benefitting from hiring illegal immigrants is criminal.

So, arrest and charge those benefitting from hiring illegal immigrants. You will be first and foremost attacking the agriculture sector. As a redult, mostly red states will affected, but so be it. You'll also arrest some people in California, so while still largely Republican leaning states will suffer, blue states will feel it too.

Go ahead and proceed using the law.

Are you for the rule of law or not? Are you for the Constitution or not?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:P.S. “Sensible gun control legislation” is unconstitutional. So is “hate speech” legislation. If Democrats cared about the Constitution, they would try to amend it, as required to achieve their gun control and hate speech goals. But they don’t.

They don't care. Democrats are just illegal Canadians. Oh, snap they don't respect Canadian laws either.

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Anonymous wrote:P.S. “Sensible gun control legislation” is unconstitutional. So is “hate speech” legislation. If Democrats cared about the Constitution, they would try to amend it, as required to achieve their gun control and hate speech goals. But they don’t.

They don't care. Democrats are just illegal Canadians. Oh, snap they don't respect Canadian laws either.

Nobody, not even you, believes the constitution defends your right to own an AR15 or a high capacity magazine.

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Anonymous wrote:P.S. “Sensible gun control legislation” is unconstitutional. So is “hate speech” legislation. If Democrats cared about the Constitution, they would try to amend it, as required to achieve their gun control and hate speech goals. But they don’t.

pretty funny coming from someone who supports a criminal authoritarian regime who is trashing the US Constitution every day.

[Anonymous]

One of these recent cases was a Texas district court case where the ACLU filed in District Court, then before that court ruled went to the Fifth Circuit and the Supreme Court that generated the overnight 7-2 decision halting the flights.

One of the government's principal arguments about the ACLU going to the Fifth Circuit and Supreme Court was that the government was deprived, ironically, of notice and opportunity.

In other words the government is complaining about lack of due process where the government will suffer no appreciable harm in a case that is about the government depriving people of due process in a case where the individuals will suffer enormous harm. That's MAGA.

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Anonymous wrote:One of these recent cases was a Texas district court case where the ACLU filed in District Court, then before that court ruled went to the Fifth Circuit and the Supreme Court that generated the overnight 7-2 decision halting the flights.

One of the government's principal arguments about the ACLU going to the Fifth Circuit and Supreme Court was that the government was deprived, ironically, of notice and opportunity.

In other words the government is complaining about lack of due process where the government will suffer no appreciable harm in a case that is about the government depriving people of due process in a case where the individuals will suffer enormous harm. That's MAGA.

Which is why the SCOTUS bypassed the 5th Circuit, which was dragging its feet willfully on an emergency filing.

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Anonymous wrote:He is telling us clear as day that he won't honor due process. Read his words for yourself.

“We cannot give everyone a trial, because to do so would take, without exaggeration, 200 years,” Trump added in his Truth Social post. “We would need hundreds of thousands of trials for the hundreds of thousands of Illegals we are sending out of the Country. Such a thing is not possible to do. What a ridiculous situation we are in.”

Somehow, Biden and Obama before him were able to do it and had record deportations.

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Anonymous wrote:POTUS is correct on this one.

He does this to an “illegal alien” (but does have to show he’s illegal, because no due process)
So, he does it to someone here legally (who can’t prove they are here legally)
So, he does it to you and says you are here illegally (and you have not opportunity to prove you are a citizen)


We can take Trumps word for the fact everyone is here illegally and deportable. Despite the fact he and his appointees can’t keep reporters off chats that include war plans or keep track of a purse with $3000, a PIV card and a passport. But, let’s go out on a limb here and say he occasionally makes mistakes. Some of those mistakes are legal permanent residents. Some are US citizens. None of them get the chance to challenge anything before they are put on a plane and dumped in CECOT. And when the inevitable mistake happens, as it already has, he says “opppsss. Still leaving them there”.

That’s why you need due process. To prevent US citizens from being dumped into El Salvadoran he11holes with no recourse.

Due process I’d your recourse.

Trump is not right. And if he can’t process the immigrants he wants to deport, he should stop firing immigration judges.

Democrats don't deserve to lecture anyone on what is right. Look at this mess after all.

Indeed. Trump has absolutely destroyed the economy and Americas standing in the world— in 100 days. It is, indeed, a mess.

PS— can’t ignore the Constitution to own the libs. Sorry, not sorry.

I think the argument many conservatives make is that Biden ignored the law by letting them into the country, and in the process ignoring the Constitution ("he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed" Const. Art. II, Sec. 3). So why should they get full Due Process rights to stay when they had no legal right to be here in the first place? The Constitution guarantees certain rights, such as the right to vote and the right to keep and bear arms - so if illegal aliens have Constitutional rights to Due Process, by logical extension, don't they have those as well?

Read the constitution. Some rights are guaranteed to citizens, like voting. Some are guaranteed to everyone here, like due process. As for owning guns— could well be read by the SCOTUS as everyone.

As for taking care that laws are faithfully executed, you elected a felon who attempted an insurrection and is regularly being stoppped from violating laws by Coirts right now. So, not a lot of standing to gripe about how Biden interpreted a really broad statement in the Const. Of there was a violation there, Rs should have (and did) done what you in these case and taken it to Court.

Your logic just eliminates our entire Constitution because you believe Biden mis interpreted one section. And I realize shredding the Constitution and installing authoritarianism is the goal here. But that’s not the way it’s supposed to work. You are supposed to take your complaint to federal Court, which serves as a check on the executive branch. Now, in this case, Trump is ignoring federal Courts. So, that’s its own separate, huge issue.

[Anonymous]

Teflon Don somehow manages to continue on unscathed despite his disastrous policies and unhinged statements.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Every migrant should be able to enjoy his or her full constitutional rights. If the courts are backed up, so be it. They can stay as long as ut takes for them all to get due process.

+1. And due process would take a lot less time if Trump would quit firing ALJs.

I’m going to assume many people on here just don’t understand the difference between ALJs and federal district and appellate Judges, and give you some actual information. I’ve been though the ALJ hiring process and am listed for possible assignment (not for immigration, different agency). Selection is based solely on your score on a series of politics free merit based testing in two phases, plus your willingness to move to where a Judge is needed. Highest score willing to move to Arizona gets the gig.

The testing has two parts. First one is an at home for broad screening out of people who are clearly not qualified, and then two days of testing in DC if you screen through. Testing includes knowledge of the relevant laws and regulations, logic testing, management principles, proctored writing samples, etc. Plus a structured interview (a panel, same questions for everyone, questions are largely being given a situation that could arise in Courtroom management or caseload management or interpersonally in an office setting and being asked how you would respond. There are ZERO politics involved in ALJ selection, which is as I should be. In fact, you are warned at each stage that disclosing your political affiliation in the writing samples interview etc will disqualify you. And once selected, ALJs are greater restricted Hatch Act— cannot put a political bumper sticker on your car, sign in your yard, donate to candidates or publicly discuss politics). If you score high enough, you are listed as eligible for appointment and come off the list in order of your total score.

ALJ appointment are actually very different than federal district and appellate Judges, where your political affiliation is known and is an important factor. This is very much not that.

These jobs require detailed expertise and a deep knowledge of highly technical law. And it takes several years to work up to managing a full caseload well. They only do the selection process every few years. Firing people just because they happened to have come off the list under a prior POTUS is ridiculous, and, yes, prevents case from moving efficiently.

Also, they may only test and list every 3-5 years. It is very possible (in fact, it’s likely) that some “Biden appointed” ALJs actually tested and listed when Trump was POTUS. It just depends on when the powers that be decide that the immigration ALJ list needed to be refreshed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:P.S. “Sensible gun control legislation” is unconstitutional. So is “hate speech” legislation. If Democrats cared about the Constitution, they would try to amend it, as required to achieve their gun control and hate speech goals. But they don’t.

Let see you defend this:

“Some officials say U.S. citizens who criticize administration policies could be charged with crimes, based on the notion that they're aiding terrorists and criminals.”

https://www.axios.com/2025/04/23/trump-immigration-crackdown-us-citizens

Who believes in the First Amendment? Not the GOP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We can’t process all the undocumented immigrants in the U.S. right now. It’s just not possible with the system we have.

There are an estimated 18.6 million undocumented immigrants in the country and only about 700 immigration judges. That means each judge would be responsible for over 26,500 cases.

Even if a judge could process one case every 3 hours, that’s around 79,000 hours of work per judge. With a full-time schedule of 2,000 hours per year, it would take each judge nearly 40 years to get through their caseload. And that’s assuming no new cases come in, no judges retire, take vacation, or get sick.

Maybe we could try using AI or automation to help deport faster, but let’s be honest, most people would push back on that too. So we’re stuck.

The only realistic path forward is to reset the system. We need to deport those who are here illegally now so we can start fresh. From that point on, anyone who enters can go through the proper court process with manageable timelines.

The Constitution allows flexibility in how non-citizens are processed, especially those who have no legal right to remain. In fact, the government already uses expedited removal for certain categories of undocumented immigrants without full hearings, and that is fully legal under current law. The more people we process quickly and efficiently through these existing methods, the more we can reduce the backlog and restore some functionality to the system.

You can blame every past administration for letting this build up, but something has to happen. We can’t fix immigration until we stop pretending the current system can handle this. We need to start over.

First, the actual number is closer to 11 million. (I’ve seen 10 million a lot, but the Asios poll below sets the number at 11 million). Your number includes all immigrants, including those here lawfully (green card, TPS, etc)


Next, defense flexibility”. If you mean denying due process, then no. It does not. You can’t say hey! Let’s ignore the Constitution for a “reset” that affects millions because we pinky promise to follow it after that. You follow the Constitution always, even when it’s inconvenient. Prior POTUSES, including Obama, Trump 45 and Biden, have pushed “expedited removal” to the edge of due process. I’d love to hear how you are going to do better without due process.

Also, removing 11 million people is logistically impossible, aside from the due process issues. Especially of you don’t use the military, which is politically unpopular (see the linked poll) and raises serious issues like posse comitatus. It also would be incredibly expensive and take an Herculean effort. And removing law abiding people who have been here for decades and are working and have American citizen kids isn’t that popular. And, it would likely collapse the economy because many of these people are in jobs we need that Americans won’t fill. It would certainly bankrupt social security, because so many of these people pay in, but never get benefits. People was new crossings to stop and criminals gone. But been here 20 years, worked in our communities, raised kids, never had even a traffic ticket? Not nearly as much enthusiasm.

Interesting poll:

https://www.axios.com/2025/01/19/poll-americans-mass-deportation-policies-trump