Trump Says Trials for Migrants "Not Possible"

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Anonymous wrote:I am sorry I don't quite understand how can an illegal immigrant can be turned about away at the border with zero due process but somehow if they make it into the country there has to be due process in order to deport them? Outside of validating their status what else should we need to do?

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And it's really such a shame the Biden administration saw fit to open the floodgates to millions of illegal immigrants in the first place. Let's not forget who bussed them all over the country, often in the dead of night. And now the Trump administration is left to clean up this disaster.

Why do you keep repeating these lies? Biden complied with American and International law where asylum is concerned. He asked for and created bi-partisam legislation to deal with the issue more expediently and Trump got the GOP to reject their own legislation. Now he is using that same lack of judges to flaunt US and International law.

And people like you fall for it.

CBP One App was not required under international law. Millions and millions. It was treason. I want to know who decided we should create a phone app to facilitate an invasion of unskilled, unvetted migrants? That person should be tried for treason. Seriously.

You know what, go ahead and accuse "that person" of treason. It is utterly nonsense and you will be laughed at and scolded for wasting people's time, but I applaud you for FINALLY using our existing legal channels. THAT IS ALL WE ARE ASKING.

What was the purpose other than to destabilize America and facilitate her destruction? As it was summarily stopped and deactivates as an App it was clearly not required by any law, so what was the point? And who developed the App and implemented it?

Let me repeat: I am for the Constitution and the rule of law. Are you??? Pick a lane.

Article 4 it is the Presidents job to control the borders from invasion. An influx that overwhelms our civilian infrastructure to deal with such can only be construed as an invasion.

Only certain places in the country were overwhelmed. Much of the country benefits from immigrants, whether you want to admit it or not. So the answer would be to improve processes and infrastructure and help those places affected, no? And maybe to work on the reasons people come in the first place? What are they fleeing? Maybe mitigate that (Biden admin worked actively on this...look it up).

So how do you feel about the fact that this POTUS and his corrupt DOGE team are dismantling much of our civilian infrastructure, and not even following the law to do so. Mainly so they can get rid of regulations and investigations of their businesses. Do you believe this corruption and lawlessness should be ignored?

Some people mainly thieves argue that there is benefit to be had from theft. Whether what you want to admit it or not what these people benefitting from hiring illegal immigrants is criminal.

So mandate e-verify and go after business owners. I’m fine with that. Many Dems are. Republicans are the ones blocking this. I wonder why?

Dems have voted against this every time.

SOME Dems have voted against it, some GOP have also voted against it, for different reasons. There are people from both parties who also support it. Please get your facts right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People need to get gang tattoos. They won't be able to identify the gang members for deportation if everyone has them.

You do realize that authorities use MUCH MORE than tattoos to identify gang members, don't you?
Many gangs are not getting tattoos anymore so they can try to get into the US undetected. There are other ways they identify gang members.

Some of you are really uninformed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:POTUS is correct on this one.

Yes, although his math is off by a decimal place.

NPR confirms Trump is right, through the data in this NPR article:

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/22/nx-s1-5372681/trump-immigration-judges-fired

- 700 current immigration judges (IJs)

- judges review on average 500 to 600 cases per year (let’s say it’s 600)

- 700 x 600 = 420,000 cases reviewed per year.

- backlog of deportation (removal) cases = 4,000,000 (4 million)

- 4 million divided by 420,000 cases per year =

9.5 years to review all 4 million of the current removal cases in the backlog.



However: that 9.5 years would only work if the backlog were STATIC, meaning we hermetically sealed off our border, and the 4 million case backlog did not grow at all. We are still allowing hundreds of thousands of visa holders and visitors into the USA every month, and some will become “illegal aliens.” Others still sneak over the border.

It will take far in excess of 9.5 years to even come close to reducing the 4 million case backlog which Biden/Harris largely created.

His math may be fine. His logic/ understanding of how these hearing work IRL is not. A family with two adults and three kids is five immigrants, but generally one hearing. You should probably divide your number by 3. But regardless, I take issue with him firing the judges we have, rather than hiring more if it’s such a priority.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:POTUS is correct on this one.

Yes, although his math is off by a decimal place.

NPR confirms Trump is right, through the data in this NPR article:

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/22/nx-s1-5372681/trump-immigration-judges-fired

- 700 current immigration judges (IJs)

- judges review on average 500 to 600 cases per year (let’s say it’s 600)

- 700 x 600 = 420,000 cases reviewed per year.

- backlog of deportation (removal) cases = 4,000,000 (4 million)

- 4 million divided by 420,000 cases per year =

9.5 years to review all 4 million of the current removal cases in the backlog.



However: that 9.5 years would only work if the backlog were STATIC, meaning we hermetically sealed off our border, and the 4 million case backlog did not grow at all. We are still allowing hundreds of thousands of visa holders and visitors into the USA every month, and some will become “illegal aliens.” Others still sneak over the border.

It will take far in excess of 9.5 years to even come close to reducing the 4 million case backlog which Biden/Harris largely created.

His math may be fine. His logic/ understanding of how these hearing work IRL is not. A family with two adults and three kids is five immigrants, but generally one hearing. You should probably divide your number by 3. But regardless, I take issue with him firing the judges we have, rather than hiring more if it’s such a priority.

It is necessary to have judges that follow the law, rather than the ones Biden hired who let everyone in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:POTUS is correct on this one.

Yes, although his math is off by a decimal place.

NPR confirms Trump is right, through the data in this NPR article:

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/22/nx-s1-5372681/trump-immigration-judges-fired

- 700 current immigration judges (IJs)

- judges review on average 500 to 600 cases per year (let’s say it’s 600)

- 700 x 600 = 420,000 cases reviewed per year.

- backlog of deportation (removal) cases = 4,000,000 (4 million)

- 4 million divided by 420,000 cases per year =

9.5 years to review all 4 million of the current removal cases in the backlog.



However: that 9.5 years would only work if the backlog were STATIC, meaning we hermetically sealed off our border, and the 4 million case backlog did not grow at all. We are still allowing hundreds of thousands of visa holders and visitors into the USA every month, and some will become “illegal aliens.” Others still sneak over the border.

It will take far in excess of 9.5 years to even come close to reducing the 4 million case backlog which Biden/Harris largely created.

His math may be fine. His logic/ understanding of how these hearing work IRL is not. A family with two adults and three kids is five immigrants, but generally one hearing. You should probably divide your number by 3. But regardless, I take issue with him firing the judges we have, rather than hiring more if it’s such a priority.

It is necessary to have judges that follow the law, rather than the ones Biden hired who let everyone in.

I posted a long thing up thread about how ALJs are selected. Having actually been through the process. In which I was specifically told that I’d I discussed my political beliefs in any interview, application point or essay, I would be disqualified. These are not partisan, political appointments. They are chosen based solely on a score, that comes from a series of tests that look at knowledge, management, logic and writing. The job opens every few years, qualified people are listed in order of score and offered positions as they open in that order.

NOTE: it is VERY LIKELY/ ALMOST CERTAIN that for at least the first year or two of the Biden Admin, they were pulling from a List based on the test administered when Trump was POTUS. And that any ALJs hired now were tested under Biden. But it doesn’t matter. Because these aren’t ideological jobs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:POTUS is correct on this one.

Yes, although his math is off by a decimal place.

NPR confirms Trump is right, through the data in this NPR article:

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/22/nx-s1-5372681/trump-immigration-judges-fired

- 700 current immigration judges (IJs)

- judges review on average 500 to 600 cases per year (let’s say it’s 600)

- 700 x 600 = 420,000 cases reviewed per year.

- backlog of deportation (removal) cases = 4,000,000 (4 million)

- 4 million divided by 420,000 cases per year =

9.5 years to review all 4 million of the current removal cases in the backlog.



However: that 9.5 years would only work if the backlog were STATIC, meaning we hermetically sealed off our border, and the 4 million case backlog did not grow at all. We are still allowing hundreds of thousands of visa holders and visitors into the USA every month, and some will become “illegal aliens.” Others still sneak over the border.

It will take far in excess of 9.5 years to even come close to reducing the 4 million case backlog which Biden/Harris largely created.

His math may be fine. His logic/ understanding of how these hearing work IRL is not. A family with two adults and three kids is five immigrants, but generally one hearing. You should probably divide your number by 3. But regardless, I take issue with him firing the judges we have, rather than hiring more if it’s such a priority.

It is necessary to have judges that follow the law, rather than the ones Biden hired who let everyone in.

I posted a long thing up thread about how ALJs are selected. Having actually been through the process. In which I was specifically told that I’d I discussed my political beliefs in any interview, application point or essay, I would be disqualified. These are not partisan, political appointments. They are chosen based solely on a score, that comes from a series of tests that look at knowledge, management, logic and writing. The job opens every few years, qualified people are listed in order of score and offered positions as they open in that order.

NOTE: it is VERY LIKELY/ ALMOST CERTAIN that for at least the first year or two of the Biden Admin, they were pulling from a List based on the test administered when Trump was POTUS. And that any ALJs hired now were tested under Biden. But it doesn’t matter. Because these aren’t ideological jobs.

Thank you for this information. We need more fact-based posts rather than ones based on made up or alternative facts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:POTUS is correct on this one.

He does this to an “illegal alien” (but does have to show he’s illegal, because no due process)
So, he does it to someone here legally (who can’t prove they are here legally)
So, he does it to you and says you are here illegally (and you have not opportunity to prove you are a citizen)


We can take Trumps word for the fact everyone is here illegally and deportable. Despite the fact he and his appointees can’t keep reporters off chats that include war plans or keep track of a purse with $3000, a PIV card and a passport. But, let’s go out on a limb here and say he occasionally makes mistakes. Some of those mistakes are legal permanent residents. Some are US citizens. None of them get the chance to challenge anything before they are put on a plane and dumped in CECOT. And when the inevitable mistake happens, as it already has, he says “opppsss. Still leaving them there”.

That’s why you need due process. To prevent US citizens from being dumped into El Salvadoran he11holes with no recourse.

Due process I’d your recourse.

Trump is not right. And if he can’t process the immigrants he wants to deport, he should stop firing immigration judges.

A short review of documents is all that is needed. Not a trial and endless appeals.

They aren't even decent enough for that!!

The problem where do we detain everyone until we can do the "short review of documents." They are still coming in at an untenable rate - even if Trump hadn't fired any judges, how do we process (and mostly deport) all of these people without setting them loose into the country and asking them to pinky swear they will appear?

By putting a monitor on them, detaining them or hiring more judges. Again, the Constitution— not option when it inconveniences you.

Also— border crossings? Right now down to 100-300 people a day. (And fewer if you consider family units). If we stop firing immigration judges, that’s very manageable. Do you have any idea how many claim SSA ALJs process (with 10-20 page opinions)?

We have to fire the immigration judges, because they were hired by Biden with the same agenda. Have to get new judges in like Jeff Sessions did.

ALJs are specialized. AND JUDGES ARE NONPARTISAN. I know ALJs. They take that part very, very seriously. I work with them and couldn’t tell you their political leanings. FFS, if you fire them all every 4 years, they never get up to speed, let alone get the competence to manage a caseload and mentor new Judges. And you don’t get to complain about a backlog. Because you created it.

Wow - your ignorance here is breathtaking.

Immigration Judges are not ALJs; they are merely DOJ employees and they are NOT subject to the APA, while actual ALJs are subject to the APA:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_law_judge

Despite your profound ignorance of the topic being discussed, you nevertheless felt emboldened to spout your uninformed nonsense in at least two posts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:POTUS is correct on this one.

He does this to an “illegal alien” (but does have to show he’s illegal, because no due process)
So, he does it to someone here legally (who can’t prove they are here legally)
So, he does it to you and says you are here illegally (and you have not opportunity to prove you are a citizen)


We can take Trumps word for the fact everyone is here illegally and deportable. Despite the fact he and his appointees can’t keep reporters off chats that include war plans or keep track of a purse with $3000, a PIV card and a passport. But, let’s go out on a limb here and say he occasionally makes mistakes. Some of those mistakes are legal permanent residents. Some are US citizens. None of them get the chance to challenge anything before they are put on a plane and dumped in CECOT. And when the inevitable mistake happens, as it already has, he says “opppsss. Still leaving them there”.

That’s why you need due process. To prevent US citizens from being dumped into El Salvadoran he11holes with no recourse.

Due process I’d your recourse.

Trump is not right. And if he can’t process the immigrants he wants to deport, he should stop firing immigration judges.

A short review of documents is all that is needed. Not a trial and endless appeals.

They aren't even decent enough for that!!

The problem where do we detain everyone until we can do the "short review of documents." They are still coming in at an untenable rate - even if Trump hadn't fired any judges, how do we process (and mostly deport) all of these people without setting them loose into the country and asking them to pinky swear they will appear?

By putting a monitor on them, detaining them or hiring more judges. Again, the Constitution— not option when it inconveniences you.

Also— border crossings? Right now down to 100-300 people a day. (And fewer if you consider family units). If we stop firing immigration judges, that’s very manageable. Do you have any idea how many claim SSA ALJs process (with 10-20 page opinions)?

We have to fire the immigration judges, because they were hired by Biden with the same agenda. Have to get new judges in like Jeff Sessions did.

ALJs are specialized. AND JUDGES ARE NONPARTISAN. I know ALJs. They take that part very, very seriously. I work with them and couldn’t tell you their political leanings. FFS, if you fire them all every 4 years, they never get up to speed, let alone get the competence to manage a caseload and mentor new Judges. And you don’t get to complain about a backlog. Because you created it.

Wow - your ignorance here is breathtaking.

Immigration Judges are not ALJs; they are merely DOJ employees and they are NOT subject to the APA, while actual ALJs are subject to the APA:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_law_judge

Despite your profound ignorance of the topic being discussed, you nevertheless felt emboldened to spout your uninformed nonsense in at least two posts.

That link lists Executive Office of Immigration Review.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People need to get gang tattoos. They won't be able to identify the gang members for deportation if everyone has them.

You do realize that authorities use MUCH MORE than tattoos to identify gang members, don't you?
Many gangs are not getting tattoos anymore so they can try to get into the US undetected. There are other ways they identify gang members.

Some of you are really uninformed.

Given people who are natural born Americans with no tattoos are being apprehended and detained, it seems there are no metrics being used to identify gang members. If there we so many "illelags" in the country, it should be shooting fish in a barrel to identify them and deport them. Why is Trump wasting time on people here legally and people who are natural born citizens?

[Anonymous]

Can SCOTUS wait to hear Democrats arguments about due process, until after the deportations are finished?

[Anonymous]

February and March reduced the asylum backlog by 3%. Number of new cases dropped from Biden numbers by 85%, and judges are now handling twice as many cases as new ones coming in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:POTUS is correct on this one.

Yes, although his math is off by a decimal place.

NPR confirms Trump is right, through the data in this NPR article:

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/22/nx-s1-5372681/trump-immigration-judges-fired

- 700 current immigration judges (IJs)

- judges review on average 500 to 600 cases per year (let’s say it’s 600)

- 700 x 600 = 420,000 cases reviewed per year.

- backlog of deportation (removal) cases = 4,000,000 (4 million)

- 4 million divided by 420,000 cases per year =

9.5 years to review all 4 million of the current removal cases in the backlog.



However: that 9.5 years would only work if the backlog were STATIC, meaning we hermetically sealed off our border, and the 4 million case backlog did not grow at all. We are still allowing hundreds of thousands of visa holders and visitors into the USA every month, and some will become “illegal aliens.” Others still sneak over the border.

It will take far in excess of 9.5 years to even come close to reducing the 4 million case backlog which Biden/Harris largely created.

His math may be fine. His logic/ understanding of how these hearing work IRL is not. A family with two adults and three kids is five immigrants, but generally one hearing. You should probably divide your number by 3. But regardless, I take issue with him firing the judges we have, rather than hiring more if it’s such a priority.

It is necessary to have judges that follow the law, rather than the ones Biden hired who let everyone in.

I posted a long thing up thread about how ALJs are selected. Having actually been through the process. In which I was specifically told that I’d I discussed my political beliefs in any interview, application point or essay, I would be disqualified. These are not partisan, political appointments. They are chosen based solely on a score, that comes from a series of tests that look at knowledge, management, logic and writing. The job opens every few years, qualified people are listed in order of score and offered positions as they open in that order.

NOTE: it is VERY LIKELY/ ALMOST CERTAIN that for at least the first year or two of the Biden Admin, they were pulling from a List based on the test administered when Trump was POTUS. And that any ALJs hired now were tested under Biden. But it doesn’t matter. Because these aren’t ideological jobs.

The problem remains that in certain courtrooms judges are very liberal with granting asylum and in others they rarely grant asylum.

"Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse reports individual asylum decisions for over 800 immigration judges that finds some have denied asylum in 100% of their cases, while another judge has denied just 1% of cases."

There is no way these are coincidences and the kids are completely impartial.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People need to get gang tattoos. They won't be able to identify the gang members for deportation if everyone has them.

You do realize that authorities use MUCH MORE than tattoos to identify gang members, don't you?
Many gangs are not getting tattoos anymore so they can try to get into the US undetected. There are other ways they identify gang members.

Some of you are really uninformed.

Given people who are natural born Americans with no tattoos are being apprehended and detained, it seems there are no metrics being used to identify gang members. If there we so many "illelags" in the country, it should be shooting fish in a barrel to identify them and deport them. Why is Trump wasting time on people here legally and people who are natural born citizens?

A citizen was detained? Where?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can SCOTUS wait to hear Democrats arguments about due process, until after the deportations are finished?

They could. They have chosen not to, because due process is kinda important.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:POTUS is correct on this one.

Yes, although his math is off by a decimal place.

NPR confirms Trump is right, through the data in this NPR article:

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/22/nx-s1-5372681/trump-immigration-judges-fired

- 700 current immigration judges (IJs)

- judges review on average 500 to 600 cases per year (let’s say it’s 600)

- 700 x 600 = 420,000 cases reviewed per year.

- backlog of deportation (removal) cases = 4,000,000 (4 million)

- 4 million divided by 420,000 cases per year =

9.5 years to review all 4 million of the current removal cases in the backlog.



However: that 9.5 years would only work if the backlog were STATIC, meaning we hermetically sealed off our border, and the 4 million case backlog did not grow at all. We are still allowing hundreds of thousands of visa holders and visitors into the USA every month, and some will become “illegal aliens.” Others still sneak over the border.

It will take far in excess of 9.5 years to even come close to reducing the 4 million case backlog which Biden/Harris largely created.

His math may be fine. His logic/ understanding of how these hearing work IRL is not. A family with two adults and three kids is five immigrants, but generally one hearing. You should probably divide your number by 3. But regardless, I take issue with him firing the judges we have, rather than hiring more if it’s such a priority.

It is necessary to have judges that follow the law, rather than the ones Biden hired who let everyone in.

I posted a long thing up thread about how ALJs are selected. Having actually been through the process. In which I was specifically told that I’d I discussed my political beliefs in any interview, application point or essay, I would be disqualified. These are not partisan, political appointments. They are chosen based solely on a score, that comes from a series of tests that look at knowledge, management, logic and writing. The job opens every few years, qualified people are listed in order of score and offered positions as they open in that order.

NOTE: it is VERY LIKELY/ ALMOST CERTAIN that for at least the first year or two of the Biden Admin, they were pulling from a List based on the test administered when Trump was POTUS. And that any ALJs hired now were tested under Biden. But it doesn’t matter. Because these aren’t ideological jobs.

The problem remains that in certain courtrooms judges are very liberal with granting asylum and in others they rarely grant asylum.

"Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse reports individual asylum decisions for over 800 immigration judges that finds some have denied asylum in 100% of their cases, while another judge has denied just 1% of cases."

There is no way these are coincidences and the kids are completely impartial.

You need more information about what caseloads each Judge hears. If one Judge is in a place with a concentration of people entitled to TPS and another serves an area where people just crossing illegally are apprehended, you would expect very different outcomes because the caseloads are so different. You’d need a breakdown by case type and immigrant classification to know this.